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  • #76
    Re: SCOTUS 10: Pack the Court!

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    We could have fixed that with a free universal national ID card that every state is forced to accept. It's a simple solution. It would assuage the tiny amount of sincere worry about fraud and expose the broad GOP thrust to suppress voting by antagonistic groups.

    And that is why it will ever happen unless we get a clean sweep of all branches and a supermajority in Congress.

    And that is why we need a clean sweep of all branches and a supermajority in Congress.
    Of course, the fact that Obama didn't do this when he had the chance...

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    • #77
      Re: SCOTUS 10: Pack the Court!

      Originally posted by unofan View Post
      No, the debate is that Ohio is trying to remove occasional voters from its rolls with as little notice as possible because it's most likely to affect Democratic voters.

      If Ohio had same day registration, the issue would be moot because the person could still vote. But it doesn't, so they don't get any benefit of the doubt that it's just about cleaning up their rolls.
      Also is there any evidence that cleaning up the rolls saves more money than it costs to leave them on?

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      • #78
        Re: SCOTUS 10: Pack the Court!

        Originally posted by unofan View Post

        There's a reason only red states want to do this type of thing.
        As noted in the link I posted earlier, and re-post here, apparently Minneapolis only gives you four years.

        http://vote.minneapolismn.gov/voters/register
        That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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        • #79
          Re: SCOTUS 10: Pack the Court!

          Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
          Just stop. No one’s right to vote has been taken away. That’s like saying that an 18 year old, or someone who moves, or someone who changes their name has had their right taken from them. It’s still there.

          It’s illogical to think states have to keep you on the registration rolls in perpetuity, so all we are really debating is how long should they wait.
          If this is the go-forward process, the State needs to start a mass mailer program. It will need to send a post card explaining to everyone that if you've not voted within the past X years, you will need to re-register to vote in the upcoming election. All eligible voters need to be notified because not all people follow the news the way we do here.
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          • #80
            Re: SCOTUS 10: Pack the Court!

            Originally posted by unofan View Post
            No, the debate is that Ohio is trying to remove occasional voters from its rolls with as little notice as possible because it's most likely to affect Democratic voters.
            Why do you always assume it's Democrat voters most likely to be affected by this? Are Democrats the most likely to be ignorant of the law? Are Democrats most likely to ignore their mail? Are Democrats most likely to have skipped voting the last 6 years?

            According to Kep it's the Republican voters who are the illiterate orcs, barely evolved from the goop that emerged from the primordial stew. This law should work in your favor.
            That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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            • #81
              Re: SCOTUS 10: Pack the Court!

              Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
              As noted in the link I posted earlier, and re-post here, apparently Minneapolis only gives you four years.

              http://vote.minneapolismn.gov/voters/register
              Tell the whole story.

              In Minnesota, you can register at your polling place on Election Day
              Game. Set. Match.
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              Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
              Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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              • #82
                Re: SCOTUS 10: Pack the Court!

                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                We could have fixed that with a free universal national ID card that every state is forced to accept. It's a simple solution. It would assuage the tiny amount of sincere worry about fraud and expose the broad GOP thrust to suppress voting by antagonistic groups.
                It's the mark of the Devil! The mark of the Devil!

                I remember hearing that all the time back in the 90s when people would bring up a national ID card. SSA cards were bad enough, now you add a person's image to the card, and you're playing with brimstone and fire.
                "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

                "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

                "Good news! We have a delivery." Professor Farnsworth

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                • #83
                  Re: SCOTUS 10: Pack the Court!

                  Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                  Tell the whole story.



                  Game. Set. Match.
                  The whole story is, why does Minneapolis boot voters off the registration list after 4 years when according to everyone here there is no point to doing so?
                  That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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                  • #84
                    Re: SCOTUS 10: Pack the Court!

                    Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                    Why do you always assume it's Democrat voters most likely to be affected by this?
                    1. There have been a zillion studies proving it, and indeed some of the schemes have been struck down after proof that GOP and GOP-adjacent legislative groups studied how to best exclude Democratic voters before writing their laws.

                    2. Well, duh. Look who writes them and look who objects. Cui bono?

                    According to Kep it's the Republican voters who are the illiterate orcs, barely evolved from the goop that emerged from the primordial stew. This law should work in your favor.
                    Getting knocked off the rolls has nothing to do with how smart you are. I think many Republicans think "well, if you raise the hurdles then only people with the habit to ensure their rights will get to vote, and that's good in itself." To be honest, I wouldn't mind a system like that, either: as I may have hinted at times I am all for the smart ruling and the stupid shutting the f-ck up. But that isn't how these laws play out in real life.
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                    • #85
                      Re: SCOTUS 10: Pack the Court!

                      Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                      The whole story is, why does Minneapolis boot voters off the registration list after 4 years when according to everyone here there is no point to doing so?
                      Ohio doesn't have it.

                      You want to take people off the rolls the fix is to allow same day registration. Ohio takes away both.
                      **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                      Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                      Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                      • #86
                        Re: SCOTUS 10: Pack the Court!

                        Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                        The whole story is, why does Minneapolis boot voters off the registration list after 4 years when according to everyone here there is no point to doing so?
                        Well no, we know there's a point in doing so. The point is to disenfranchise poor people and college students.

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                        • #87
                          Re: SCOTUS 10: Pack the Court!

                          Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
                          Of course, the fact that Obama didn't do this when he had the chance...
                          He didn't have the Court, and with Loserman doing his prima donna act he didn't really have a supermajority.
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                          • #88
                            Re: SCOTUS 10: Pack the Court!

                            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                            He didn't have the Court, and with Loserman doing his prima donna act he didn't really have a supermajority.
                            That guy did suck but you'd think he'd probably support this... right? But you're right he didn't have the court.

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                            • #89
                              Re: SCOTUS 10: Pack the Court!

                              Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
                              That guy did suck but you'd think he'd probably support this... right?
                              Who even knows? He was speaking at f-cking CPAC at that point. He was deeply up his own anus.

                              But to be honest the southern blue dogs wouldn't have supported it because THE SOUTHS GONNA DO IT AGIN LYNCH TEH DARKIES!.

                              Although it was very, very painful and it cost us a generation of terrible Plute policy, ridding ourselves of the Dixiecrats once and for all has made the future of the Democratic party and liberalism far brighter. When next we have the reins we will not have to deal with that fetid anchor of hatred and idiocy.
                              Last edited by Kepler; 06-12-2018, 09:15 AM.
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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                                If this is the go-forward process, the State needs to start a mass mailer program. It will need to send a post card explaining to everyone that if you've not voted within the past X years, you will need to re-register to vote in the upcoming election. All eligible voters need to be notified because not all people follow the news the way we do here.
                                Surely they will buy ads on Fox News
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