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    Re: SCOTUS 10: Pack the Court!

    Quote Originally Posted by unofan View Post
    No, in fact you're cheering them on for making voting harder.
    We could've just saved ourselves like 3 pages of posts if he just said he's cynically for it because it'll help his side

    Quote Originally Posted by TalonsUpPuckDown View Post
    I spend most of my time lurking in the Cafe, thought as an Ohio guy I'd add one tidbit to the mix that hasn't been discussed, that being the rules aren't being applied evenly across the state. Purging of the roles in counties with lots of guys named Billy Ray Jim Bob has not been happening with equal frequency as in counties with lots of people with the last name of Jackson. With this law now codified, the party in power (Republican or Democrat) has a weapon to selectively pick and choose who gets to vote. To me, THAT's the issue, not whether some dotard skipped out on voting in the past 3 elections.

    Back to the sidelines.
    Right, there was a Reuters article that showed the impact was mainly in Cleveland, Cinci, and other dem strongholds with a lot of black voters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrinCDXX View Post
    Nobody's complaining that they don't magically appear. We are complaining that people who pretend to believe in American ideals actively prevent progress from being made toward them (and in fact push us further away).
    Mookie just 'splainin' that your ideals are not "American". Sufferage has been limited for 250 years and obviously in the back of the heads of the founders (original intent )

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    Re: SCOTUS 10: Pack the Court!

    Quote Originally Posted by mookie1995 View Post
    Mookie just 'splainin' that your ideals are not "American". Sufferage has been limited for 250 years and obviously in the back of the heads of the founders (original intent )
    Weight the vote by GRE score and may the smarter side win. Problem solved.
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    Re: SCOTUS 10: Pack the Court!

    Quote Originally Posted by mookie1995 View Post
    Mookie just 'splainin' that your ideals are not "American". Sufferage has been limited for 250 years and obviously in the back of the heads of the founders (original intent )
    I disagree- given the progression of voting rights in this country, it's pretty clear that equal opportunity voting IS being American, as we've been altering the laws to project that since the Constitution was signed.

    Just because the founders didn't fully come up with the idea does not mean that it's not an American ideal.

    Remember the guy who famously wrote that all men are created equal was a slave holder. So does that mean that it's not an American ideal? Heck, we didn't have actual laws that forced everyone to treat each other equally until the 1960's.

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    Re: SCOTUS 10: Pack the Court!

    Quote Originally Posted by alfablue View Post
    Remember the guy who famously wrote that all men are created equal was a slave holder.
    Not to mention the little matter of it being all "men" being equal.

    The Founders excluded from voting, explicitly or in practice:

    Women
    The Poors
    Slaves
    Native Americans
    Atheists
    Prisoners

    Which amounted to about 95% of the population at the time of the Revolution.
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