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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

    Quote Originally Posted by SJHovey View Post
    Honestly, I don't think Mueller is going to take down Trump for the Russian collusion wet dream of the HRC supporters. When we look back on this 20 years from now we'll see that the Russian collusion angle was just the entree to examine a lifetime of shady business deals. Trump's going to go down for all of the money laundering loans, the bribes, the payoffs, etc..., that took place in the 30 years prior to him even running for President, not something Jared negotiated in the summer of 2016.

    That isn't going to require an impeachment. Trump will fight it, either until he cuts a deal with Pence to resign and be pardoned, or until the term runs out and he loses the protection of the power of the Presidency. At that point he just becomes another Bernie Madoff.
    Although the collusion is real, I agree with all of the rest of this. He'll definitely never serve a day in jail, though. If for no other reason than by being near the center of the spider web of white collar crime for the last 50 years he probably has more dirt on important people than J. Edgar did. He can be neutered, but he can't actually be brought to justice. He's a fragmentation grenade.

    But if I were his associates I'd be worried. Dumpy won't lift a finger to help any of them, and they are all implicated in all of his crimes, if for no other reason than he's too dumb to have ever thought of any of them -- like Cohen, they must have done them for him. Dumpy may wind up like Reagan -- his ineptitude may save him because he's obviously just too mentally limited to have actually planned or understood any of the details of the criminal activity carried out in his name. He may skate because he's a moron.
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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

    Quote Originally Posted by SJHovey View Post
    Trump's going to go down for all of the money laundering loans, the bribes, the payoffs, etc..., that took place in the 30 years prior to him even running for President, not something Jared negotiated in the summer of 2016.

    That isn't going to require an impeachment. Trump will fight it, either until he cuts a deal with Pence to resign and be pardoned, or until the term runs out and he loses the protection of the power of the Presidency. At that point he just becomes another Bernie Madoff.
    Yo SJH, two questions on your posit:

    1. 30 years old stuff? Um, statute of limitations? Or will folks be in an uproar and demand resignation/won't re-elect?
    2. You're saying people didn't hear the Roseanne/Kimmel dialog?
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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."


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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post

    Hillary wouldn't have cut that program. She likely would have expanded it.
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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

    Quote Originally Posted by GrinCDXX View Post
    No, prosecute was your word your **** eating hypocrite.
    What I said was:

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    Based on those reports, Mr. Trump and Mr. Sessions would be well within Executive Branch authority to prosecute Mr. Kerry on a Logan Act violation. Citizen Kerry should not be doing that.
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    Or was he negotiating? Seems worth an investigation.
    So, yes, I used 'that word' to describe what is within the Executive's authority. I called for an investigation.

    That on the record, let's get you on the record: Should Citizen Kerry be talking with the Iranians in light of the Logan Act?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrinCDXX View Post
    No, prosecute was your word your **** eating hypocrite.
    I forget, was it ok when citizen Jared was backchanneling with multiple nations before inauguration?

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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

    There are ways to extend that Statute of Limitations IIRC...

    And they will never get Trump on collusion, but we need to know what happened no matter what. Trump is President until 2020...unless nature gets angry with him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post

    Makes sense. Goes well with the bloat and heartburn he’s feeling every night after eating nothing that occurs in nature all day every day.

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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    Hillary wouldn't have cut that program. She likely would have expanded it.
    Yeah but she MIGHT have mishandled classified intell...
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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

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    I forget, was it ok when citizen Jared was backchanneling with multiple nations before inauguration?
    Public matter? Nope. See: Mueller.

    Private business? As long as it's legal.
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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

    Quote Originally Posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    What I said was:



    Followed by:


    So, yes, I used 'that word' to describe what is within the Executive's authority. I called for an investigation.

    That on the record, let's get you on the record: Should Citizen Kerry be talking with the Iranians in light of the Logan Act?
    I'm reminded of a certain poster who likes to rail against "weasel words".

    Well gee Sic, it kinda depends on the nature of the conversation, doesn't it?

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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    Yeah but she MIGHT have mishandled classified intell...
    Oh, she did. No question about it. Lock her up.
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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

    Quote Originally Posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    Public matter? Nope. See: Mueller.

    Private business? As long as it's legal.
    He was part of the Trump Team...so it wasnt for private business. When Ivanka was doing it she was doing it as both which is also not how it is supposed to work. In fact both of them were supposedly cutting deals on behalf of the Trump Administration for HER businesses (she was able to expand quite a bit to countries she gave access to her father) and I believe there were rumors of them selling off visas in some of these countries.
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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

    Quote Originally Posted by GrinCDXX View Post
    I'm reminded of a certain poster who likes to rail against "weasel words".

    Well gee Sic, it kinda depends on the nature of the conversation, doesn't it?
    One's a statement of fact: it is within the Executive's authority. (Would they be successful? Whole other matter.)

    The other is my opinion: investigate it.
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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    He was part of the Trump Team...so it wasnt for private business. When Ivanka was doing it she was doing it as both which is also not how it is supposed to work. In fact both of them were supposedly cutting deals on behalf of the Trump Administration for HER businesses (she was able to expand quite a bit to countries she gave access to her father) and I believe there were rumors of them selling off visas in some of these countries.
    And that's why Mr. Mueller is doing the job he's doing.
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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

    Quote Originally Posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    And that's why Mr. Mueller is doing the job he's doing.
    No. Mr. Mueller has a job only because Jeff Sessions is an idiot.
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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    Mr. Mueller has a job ... ... Jeff Sessions is an idiot.
    Those two are mutually exclusive, as noted above.
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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

    Quote Originally Posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    Yo SJH, two questions on your posit:

    1. 30 years old stuff? Um, statute of limitations? Or will folks be in an uproar and demand resignation/won't re-elect?
    2. You're saying people didn't hear the Roseanne/Kimmel dialog?
    They aren't going to have to go back to something 30 years ago. It's likely been going on for at least 30 years, but they'll have plenty to choose from within any applicable statute of limitations.
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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

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    Those two are mutually exclusive, as noted above.
    No, no they're not.
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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    No, no they're not.
    Sessions was born that way. Mutually exclusive.
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