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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

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    I'd say Mueller (who's been quiet for a while now) has the real deal and he's just finishing the details, making sure all the links in the chain are tight.
    This is The Hope. But I can't imagine a case that would make the Republican Members and voters ashamed enough to jack Dumpy and throw him in the clink where he belongs. If the evidence is procedural the GOP will say "so what?" If the evidence is criminal the GOP and their sheep will just not believe it. Think about what they do with science: they just invent their own facts. They are cut off from reality. There is no empirical check on them.
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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    Congress did it.
    I thought this was actually a parody of Dump's response once he realizes what a mistake the embassy is. I literally never gave it a thought that it was a serious response until just now.

    Please tell me you were making a (very good, to be fair) joke.
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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

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    This is The Hope. But I cant imagine a case that would make the Republican Members and voters ashamed enough to jack Dumpy and throw him in the clink where he belongs. If the evidence is procedural the GOP will say "that's not strong enough." If the evidence is criminal the GOP and their sheep will just not believe it. Think about what they do with science: they just invent their own facts. They are cut off from reality. There is no empirical check on them.
    Mueller's a prosecutor.
    He knows the standard.
    If he's got it, he's making it "beyond a shadow of a doubt".

    That why Mueller going quiet makes me wonder ...
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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

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    I thought this was actually a parody of Dump's response once he realizes what a mistake the embassy is. I literally never gave it a thought that it was a serious response until just now.

    Please tell me you were making a (very good, to be fair) joke.
    Point of order:

    The Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995 is a public law of the United States passed by the 104th Congress on October 23, 1995. The proposed law was adopted by the Senate (93–5), and the House (374–37). The Act became law without a presidential signature on November 8, 1995. ...

    On June 5, 2017, the U.S. Senate unanimously passed a resolution commemorating the 50th anniversary of reunification of Jerusalem by 90-0. The resolution reaffirmed the Jerusalem Embassy Act and called upon the President and all United States officials to abide by its provisions.

    Seems Congress did do it.

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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

    Yeah and no President acted on it for a reason. But you never one to let facts get in the way. Trump could have ignored it like everyone else he didnt. So Trump did it.

    Plus the point was having the guy who hates Jews bless the embassy in Israel...which again...Trump did.
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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

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    Point of order:

    The Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995 is a public law of the United States passed by the 104th Congress on October 23, 1995. The proposed law was adopted by the Senate (93–5), and the House (374–37). The Act became law without a presidential signature on November 8, 1995. ...

    On June 5, 2017, the U.S. Senate unanimously passed a resolution commemorating the 50th anniversary of reunification of Jerusalem by 90-0. The resolution reaffirmed the Jerusalem Embassy Act and called upon the President and all United States officials to abide by its provisions.

    Seems Congress did do it.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_Embassy_Act
    This is either disingenuous or you don't know how our government actually works. Congress does all sorts of ludicrous posturing so that Members can preen for their constituents. The EOP then ignores them because they're stupid. Everybody wins and nobody gets hurt. This is completely bipartisan.

    Dumpy was the first President dumb enough to swallow the bait.
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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

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    Plus the point was having the guy who hates Jews bless the embassy in Israel...which again...Trump did.
    Actually, that part's pretty funny.
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    Who knew McCain was also a Democrat.
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    "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    Yeah and no President acted on it for a reason. But you never one to let facts get in the way. Trump could have ignored it like everyone else he didnt. So Trump did it.

    Plus the point was having the guy who hates Jews bless the embassy in Israel...which again...Trump did.
    Trump did ignore it ... twice (two six-month extensions). Then Trump gonna Trump. He called Congress' bluff.

    Personally, I'd rather not Congress preen like that but instead be forthright in their actions and dealings.


    As far as the guy who blessed the place: Poor form. The top imam, rabbi, and bishop* from the region should've been there doing the invocations.



    *There a joke in there somewhere.
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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

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    Personally, I'd rather not Congress preen like that but instead be forthright in their actions and dealings.
    LOL. How'd you feel about Garland? How'd you feel about The Sanctity of Marriage? Terry Shiavo? The Patriot Act? The Clinton Impeachment? The Flag Burning Amendment? Opening each session with a prayer?

    My guess is when the posturing is scratching your itch, you like it fine. Just like the rest of us. That's why they do it.
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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

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    My guess is when the posturing is scratching your itch, you like it fine. Just like the rest of us. That's why they do it.
    I was upset because they weren't doing the business of governing but were instead (your word) preening for the cameras.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    I thought this was actually a parody of Dump's response once he realizes what a mistake the embassy is. I literally never gave it a thought that it was a serious response until just now.

    Please tell me you were making a (very good, to be fair) joke.
    It was, about what a disaster Congress was/is. These are the same people who are ‘brave’ enough to add billions of dollars of debt onto the deficit each year. As big of a disaster as Trump is I’d contend Congress is actually doing more long term damage.

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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post

    Not sure what he means. Dershowitz, DiGenova, and Toensing have been carrying so much water for him lately he couldn't ask for any more. And he doesn't even have to pay them.
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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

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    I was upset because they weren't doing the business of governing but were instead (your word) preening for the cameras.
    OK, I'm going to give you a lesson in Actual Civics, so you may want to sit down.

    Preening is all Members do. All the work of Congress is done by their staffers and by Committee Staff. The Members are literally ornamental figureheads to draw bribes, er, contributions, and votes. They do no legislative work. They work the phones and the rubber chicken circuit.

    You have literally never heard the name of anyone who has done actual legislation, and you never will. No person who has ever done actual legislative work has ever appeared in front of a camera or been quoted -- or even referenced -- in a newspaper.

    Government is a sport where the media only covers the Owners and the Sales Department. The players on the field do their thing in complete anonymity. Nobody you have ever heard of has ever contributed anything to legislation. Not even once. Not even by mistake.
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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

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    This is The Hope. But I can't imagine a case that would make the Republican Members and voters ashamed enough to jack Dumpy and throw him in the clink where he belongs. If the evidence is procedural the GOP will say "so what?" If the evidence is criminal the GOP and their sheep will just not believe it. Think about what they do with science: they just invent their own facts. They are cut off from reality. There is no empirical check on them.
    I'm not sure it's going to come down like that.

    I agree with Sic regarding Avenatti. Right now he's a tease, and the media will go along with it for a long, long time. But then they won't, and they'll turn on him quick. He either has it or he doesn't, and right now my money is on the latter.

    Honestly, I don't think Mueller is going to take down Trump for the Russian collusion wet dream of the HRC supporters. When we look back on this 20 years from now we'll see that the Russian collusion angle was just the entree to examine a lifetime of shady business deals. Trump's going to go down for all of the money laundering loans, the bribes, the payoffs, etc..., that took place in the 30 years prior to him even running for President, not something Jared negotiated in the summer of 2016.

    That isn't going to require an impeachment. Trump will fight it, either until he cuts a deal with Pence to resign and be pardoned, or until the term runs out and he loses the protection of the power of the Presidency. At that point he just becomes another Bernie Madoff.
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    Re: POTUS 45.33: ""We're rounding them up in a very humane way, in a very nice way."

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    I agree with Sic regarding Avenatti. Right now he's a tease, and the media will go along with it for a long, long time. But then they won't, and they'll turn on him quick. He either has it or he doesn't, and right now my money is on the latter.
    I think Avenatti is smarter than that. I would be highly disappointed if things turn out they way you think.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    Kerry, Citizen Kerry, met with the Iranians. I called for an investigation (prosecution is your word) to find out what was said and if there may have been violations of the Logan Act.
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    Based on those reports, Mr. Trump and Mr. Sessions would be well within Executive Branch authority to prosecute Mr. Kerry on a Logan Act violation. Citizen Kerry should not be doing that.
    No, prosecute was your word your **** eating hypocrite.
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