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  • Re: The States: Why does Minnesota wanna be Kansas?

    Originally posted by unofan View Post
    You'll have at least one chance to see if the liberal wing can carry a seat. The Dem nomination for Omaha's congressional seat went to a progressive wing candidate over the moderate. And most forecasters promptly moved the seat from toss up to leans GOP.
    Well yeah after the DCCC pulls all funding I'm sure she'll have an uphill battle, shocking...

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    • Re: The States: Why does Minnesota wanna be Kansas?

      Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
      Well yeah after the DCCC pulls all funding I'm sure she'll have an uphill battle, shocking...
      When you have a limited pool of resources, you triage. If she doesn't have a chance there's no reason to waste gobs of money on her campaign.
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      When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
      He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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      • Re: The States: Why does Minnesota wanna be Kansas?

        Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
        When you have a limited pool of resources, you triage. If she doesn't have a chance there's no reason to waste gobs of money on her campaign.
        Right but that's not what the research has shown in terms of how they're picking who to support. They've spent more money on not close races for more centrist types which shows that it's more ideological than anything.

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        • Re: The States: Why does Minnesota wanna be Kansas?

          Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
          Right but that's not what the research has shown in terms of how they're picking who to support. They've spent more money on not close races for more centrist types which shows that it's more ideological than anything.
          Source?
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          Originally posted by SanTropez
          May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
          Originally posted by bigblue_dl
          I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
          Originally posted by Kepler
          When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
          He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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          • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
            Source?
            David Dayen of the Intercept mentioned that he was going to write an article about it soon but didn’t cite the specific study. He might be referring to this one but I’m not sure.

            Recent scholarship has argued that parties strategically support more moderate, and thus more electable, candidates. Using interviews with party elites and new data on the party support and the ideology of primary candidates for the US Senate, I show that parties do support moderate candidates. However, using evidence from districts with different levels of competitiveness and over time, I find that support of moderate candidates appears not to be strategic. Rather, party support of moderate candidates appears to be the result of the ideological preferences of party leadership rather a strategic effort to win elections.
            https://people.cornellcollege.edu/hhassell/Scholarly%20Work/Hassell,%20Parties%20as%20Moderators.pdf

            Not that this is shocking by any means, there has been zero instances anyone can think of where the DCCC came in to support the more left leaning candidate.

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            • Re: The States: Why does Minnesota wanna be Kansas?

              Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post

              Not that this is shocking by any means, there has been zero instances anyone can think of where the DCCC came in to support the more left leaning candidate.
              Wasn't there some brouhaha in the PA 7th primary last week of the DCCC trying to get one of the two more liberal candidates to switch to a different race so that they wouldn't split the vote and allow the conservadem candidate to win the nomination? Seems like that's an instance of them trying to get a more left leaning candidate as the nominee.
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              • Re: The States: Why does Minnesota wanna be Kansas?

                Originally posted by Rover View Post
                Wasn't there some brouhaha in the PA 7th primary last week of the DCCC trying to get one of the two more liberal candidates to switch to a different race so that they wouldn't split the vote and allow the conservadem candidate to win the nomination? Seems like that's an instance of them trying to get a more left leaning candidate as the nominee.
                From 538:

                Two Pennsylvania congressional primaries also pitted progressivism against pragmatism, and the progressives went two for two. In the 1st District, philanthropist Scott Wallace, the grandson of the Progressive Party’s 1948 presidential nominee, defeated former Navy prosecutor Rachel Reddick 56 percent to 35 percent. Reddick had made her conversion from the GOP a centerpiece of her campaign. In the 7th District, a split in the progressive vote nearly caused Democrats to nominate Northampton County District Attorney John Morganelli, who has made comments friendly to Trump and not-so-friendly to undocumented immigrants. However, Allentown City Solicitor Susan Wild defeated him 33 to 30 percent, with Bernie Sanders-endorsed pastor Greg Edwards in third with 26 percent. More than Nebraska’s 2nd District, both the 1st and 7th Districts in Pennsylvania are true swing districts, with a partisan lean of R+1 and D+0.04, respectively — in other words, they’re almost perfect bellwethers for the nation as a whole. So Democrats have a little more margin for error there in such a Democratic-leaning national political environment. (Of course, if that environment changes … )
                That whole 538 article suggests liberalism is continuing to reassert itself over Third Way, at least in purple districts. Hopefully the DCCC will see the light and fully support liberals rather than sabotage them. I guess we will see whether the DNC and Establishment are honestly scared of stressing liberal themes because of their learned helplessness in the face of right wing violence, or whether they're a literal 1% fifth column that took over the party to defang it of liberal threats to the plutes and deprive Americans of their democratic voice.

                We shall see.
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                • Re: The States: Why does Minnesota wanna be Kansas?

                  Nice trust fund.

                  http://thehill.com/homenews/news/388...acial-concerns

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                    • Re: The States: Why does Minnesota wanna be Kansas?

                      Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
                      Dude should be in Dump's cabinet or on Fox News.
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                      • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        Dude should be in Dump's cabinet or on Fox News.
                        the day is young
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                        • Re: The States: Why does Minnesota wanna be Kansas?

                          Wow, great news. I don't think I've seen this here...

                          Pawlenty says he won’t seek GOP endorsement, inviting ridicule from Johnson

                          Former Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty has announced he plans to skip early June’s Republican state convention and go straight to the Aug.14 primary, drawing sharp criticism from another GOP candidate in the race and the Democratic Party. Pawlenty’s decision means he won’t be seeking the party’s endorsement.

                          In a statement Tuesday, his campaign said the two-term former governor “appreciates the convention delegates, but his late entry into the race effectively precluded a fair fight for endorsement at the convention.” Hennepin County Commissioner Jeff Johnson, viewed as the front-runner for endorsement, said in a statement Tuesday that Pawlenty “claims to be the ‘A Team’ and the only strong Republican in the race, but a strong candidate would be able to win the support of the most active Republicans in MN. If he can’t even compete for the support of his base, he’ll be a disaster in the General Election.”

                          The Democratic Governors Association said in a statement, “recent Wall Street lobbyist Tim Pawlenty, who represents the perfect ideal of everything voters are rejecting in the Trump-era, will forgo courting base Republican activists because he is afraid he will lose the convention process.”

                          https://www.twincities.com/2018/05/1...governor-race/

                          Also:

                          Former Lt. Gov. snubs old boss Tim Pawlenty, endorses Jeff Johnson

                          Former Minnesota Lt. Gov. Carol Molnau has endorsed a Republican running for governor, but it’s not the man she was elected with twice. Molnau endorsed Hennepin County Commissioner Jeff Johnson on Friday. She served from 2003 to 2011 as the second-in-command to former Gov. Tim Pawlenty, who is also running for his old job. Molnau says she considers Johnson “the most electable Republican” running. Asked if she thought Pawlenty shouldn’t get the job again, she said: “I just haven’t thought about Mr. Pawlenty at all.” It’s a campaign jab at the former two-term governor who formally entered the race last month.

                          https://www.twincities.com/2018/05/0...-jeff-johnson/
                          Go Gophers!

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                          • Re: The States: Why does Minnesota wanna be Kansas?

                            What? Is this for real? Because that’s a pretty serious self-inflicted would.
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                            Originally posted by SanTropez
                            May your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.
                            Originally posted by bigblue_dl
                            I don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..
                            Originally posted by Kepler
                            When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                            He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                            • Re: The States: Why does Minnesota wanna be Kansas?

                              Its the only chance he had to make any sort of run for the office. He knew he couldnt win the nomination so dont even try. If he gets trounced early he is DOA just like Chris Coleman was. The man is not liked on both sides just like I told you so he is basically a non-factor except with old Dubya lovers which means Jeff Johnson's base is losing some votes.
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                              • Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                                What? Is this for real? Because that’s a pretty serious self-inflicted would.
                                It’s def real

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