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    Quote Originally Posted by boblav1 View Post
    Agreed. Now let's hope the rules committee doesn't come up with some crazy overtime format. I'm fine with ties and dislike the shootout. If anything increase the overtime to 7 minutes. I can't understand why the need to keep screwing around with the game.
    Some of the rule changes I can understand because you can easily exploit flaws. However, regarding the OT/Skills Contest changes: The playoff OT is still in the rule book. Although right now it is only for tournament play, you could put in an exception to allow that format at any time, and then have no ties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
    Some of the rule changes I can understand because you can easily exploit flaws. However, regarding the OT/Skills Contest changes: The playoff OT is still in the rule book. Although right now it is only for tournament play, you could put in an exception to allow that format at any time, and then have no ties.
    See Beanpot OT rules....

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    Re: Hockey East Tournament back to 8 teams for 2018/19

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    Makes the regular season have a meaning again.
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    Re: Hockey East Tournament back to 8 teams for 2018/19

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    If you finish NINTH, you don't deserve a post-season. It is that simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    See Beanpot OT rules....
    Exactly. And right now, any "tournament" could utilize it, although consolation games (i.e. third-place games) are not permitted it. I wonder if "trophy games" could be construed as tournament as well; that'd be interesting seeing one of those go four overtimes...
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    Re: Hockey East Tournament back to 8 teams for 2018/19

    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    See Beanpot OT rules....
    i.e., tournament overtime rules:

    91.4 Tied Games - Tournament Competition - Where advancement in a bracket or the determination of a tournament champion is necessary, any series in a format (e.g., single game, minigame series) that results in a tie shall be broken by 20-minute, sudden-death overtime periods (Exception: See 91.3). The ice shall be resurfaced upon completion of regulation play. The teams shall change ends at the end of each period (except as indicated in Rule 90.2). In each overtime, at the first stoppage of play under the ten minute mark, an ice maintenance timeout of one-minute in duration will be administered. Teams may return to their benches at this time. Thirdplace games may follow the overtime procedures as described in Rule 91.
    Note: A tied game in a minigame series must use a five-minute overtime period. If the series is tied after the second game, a 20-minute minigame will be played after an intermission period. See Appendix A for complete procedures.

    Since most games don't need to determine a winner it is unlikely the NCAA will change the rule to include all games. For some information on the change from 10 to 5 minute overtimes and how that increased ties you can read my post in the Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix? thread. Going back to 10 minute overtimes should reduce ties by about 20%.

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    Re: Hockey East Tournament back to 8 teams for 2018/19

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Pickett View Post
    i.e., tournament overtime rules:

    91.4 Tied Games - Tournament Competition - Where advancement in a bracket or the determination of a tournament champion is necessary, any series in a format (e.g., single game, minigame series) that results in a tie shall be broken by 20-minute, sudden-death overtime periods (Exception: See 91.3). The ice shall be resurfaced upon completion of regulation play. The teams shall change ends at the end of each period (except as indicated in Rule 90.2). In each overtime, at the first stoppage of play under the ten minute mark, an ice maintenance timeout of one-minute in duration will be administered. Teams may return to their benches at this time. Thirdplace games may follow the overtime procedures as described in Rule 91.
    Note: A tied game in a minigame series must use a five-minute overtime period. If the series is tied after the second game, a 20-minute minigame will be played after an intermission period. See Appendix A for complete procedures.

    Since most games don't need to determine a winner it is unlikely the NCAA will change the rule to include all games. For some information on the change from 10 to 5 minute overtimes and how that increased ties you can read my post in the Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix? thread. Going back to 10 minute overtimes should reduce ties by about 20%.

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    Step in the right direction for sure.

    Now, if they would just award their AQ to the RS champion... (Play the tournament if you must, but it should only count for the sake of further PWR data.)

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    Step in the right direction for sure.

    Now, if they would just award their AQ to the RS champion... (Play the tournament if you must, but it should only count for the sake of further PWR data.)
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    Farewell and good riddance to the MBPBEGAM "playoffs" round. Dumb idea from the outset.

    I'd actually like to see only the top six qualify, with the top two getting byes into the semis.

    If it's the top six qualifying, there would be a good chance they'd all at least have winning records.
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    If it's the top six qualifying, there would be a good chance they'd all at least have winning records.
    That wouldn't have been true this past season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottK View Post
    That wouldn't have been true this past season.
    Seriously, and thatís all on hockey east at this point for not winning in non-conference. Considering how non-clutch the B10 has been we have collectively failed to cash in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patman View Post
    Seriously, and thatís all on hockey east at this point for not winning in non-conference. Considering how non-clutch the B10 has been we have collectively failed to cash in.
    HEA teams also failed to cash in against Atlantic Hockey teams, such as UML vs Bentley, IIRC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snively65 View Post
    HEA teams also failed to cash in against Atlantic Hockey teams, such as UML vs Bentley, IIRC?
    Hockey East had a down year by League standards...but they {HEA} will rebound back to a top Conference in the College Hockey world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patman View Post
    Seriously, and thatís all on hockey east at this point for not winning in non-conference. Considering how non-clutch the B10 has been we have collectively failed to cash in.
    Actually, the Top 4 were the only teams that finished above .500 in conference games alone.

    At the end of the regular season, the Top 4 and one of the teams tied for 5th were above .500 overall, and the team in 7th was at exactly .500.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snively65 View Post
    HEA teams also failed to cash in against Atlantic Hockey teams, such as UML vs Bentley, IIRC?
    When did I ever say we werenít at fault?

    This has been an issue for years and not just this year. This year we sucked. The end

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    Re: Hockey East Tournament back to 8 teams for 2018/19

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Pickett View Post
    Going back to 10 minute overtimes should reduce ties by about 20%.
    Want to fix the tie problem... only reward what you want:

    win = 2 points
    tie = 0 points
    loss = 0 points

    In that world nobody plays for the tie.
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