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  • #76
    Re: Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix?

    I'd like to see the OT change go to 5x5 or 4x4 OT with each team getting 1pt after a regulation tie. If still tied then go to a shootout with the shootout winner getting the 3rd pt.
    Last edited by e.cat; 04-29-2018, 05:56 PM.
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    • #77
      Re: Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix?

      No. Just no. God no.

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      • #78
        Re: Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix?

        I would be interested in seeing what would happen if you gave 3 points for a win and 1 point for a tie. Of course this would only work for conference games.

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        • #79
          Re: Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix?

          Originally posted by Timothy A View Post
          Here's a mind blower....no backward pass allowed unless in your attacking zone.
          The NCAA already has a rule similar to this, but it is never called:
          76.2 Advancing Puck - Except to carry the puck behind its goal once, a team in possession of the puck in its own defending zone must advance the puck toward the opposing goal, unless it is prevented from so doing by players of the opposing team.
          PENALTY—For initial violation, play shall be stopped and a faceoff conducted at either end-zone faceoff spot adjacent to the goal of the team causing the stoppage, and the referee shall warn the captain of the offending team of the reason for the faceoff. For a second violation by any player of the same team in the same period, a minor shall be assessed to the offending player.


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          • #80
            Re: Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix?

            Originally posted by Sean Pickett View Post
            The NCAA already has a rule similar to this, but it is never called:
            76.2 Advancing Puck - Except to carry the puck behind its goal once, a team in possession of the puck in its own defending zone must advance the puck toward the opposing goal, unless it is prevented from so doing by players of the opposing team.
            PENALTY—For initial violation, play shall be stopped and a faceoff conducted at either end-zone faceoff spot adjacent to the goal of the team causing the stoppage, and the referee shall warn the captain of the offending team of the reason for the faceoff. For a second violation by any player of the same team in the same period, a minor shall be assessed to the offending player.


            Sean
            There are a few odd rules in the book that don't necessarily get called, including some timing related rules based on what point in the game you're in (see the rule on dislodging the net). I can understand this rule because it goes along the lines of delaying of game, but if there's a forechecker, you can't really call this because forward movement is being prevented. Seems more like a response to that one Devils game where they set up the 1-3-1 defense and the puck just stayed behind the net.

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            • #81
              Re: Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix?

              Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
              There are a few odd rules in the book that don't necessarily get called, including some timing related rules based on what point in the game you're in (see the rule on dislodging the net). I can understand this rule because it goes along the lines of delaying of game, but if there's a forechecker, you can't really call this because forward movement is being prevented. Seems more like a response to that one Devils game where they set up the 1-3-1 defense and the puck just stayed behind the net.
              I think that was a Philly-Tampa game. NJ did popularize the trap, but they weren't involved in the game when some coach finally said "enough."

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              • #82
                Re: Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix?

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                • #83
                  Re: Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix?

                  Originally posted by e.cat View Post
                  I'd like to see the OT change go to 5x5 or 4x4 OT with each team getting 1pt after a regulation tie. If still tied then go to a shootout with the shootout winner getting the 3rd pt.
                  I was with you until you got to the part about shootouts. #nothockey
                  Last edited by Split-N; 04-30-2018, 08:47 AM.
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                  • #84
                    Re: Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix?

                    Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                    There are a few odd rules in the book that don't necessarily get called, including some timing related rules based on what point in the game you're in (see the rule on dislodging the net). I can understand this rule because it goes along the lines of delaying of game, but if there's a forechecker, you can't really call this because forward movement is being prevented. Seems more like a response to that one Devils game where they set up the 1-3-1 defense and the puck just stayed behind the net.
                    I don't consider dislodging the net an odd rule, but I agree that many don't get called, or only called late in a game. As for advancing the puck out of the defensive zone, the rule has existed since 1986-87, when it was Rule 6, Section 34. b.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Split-N View Post
                      I was with you until you got to the part about shootouts. #nothockey
                      I don't necessarily like the shootout either but I would rather have a shootout win than an OT tie to end the game.
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                      • #86
                        Re: Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix?

                        The way that the rule book is written now seems to be an appropriate compromise between the two crowds when consideration is in place for the national tournament. I would consider taking it one step further, and eliminate overtime from the consideration altogether unless the playoffs format (i.e. keep going 5v5 until someone scores) is used. Let the leagues decide how they want to handle overtime. If they want to do 3v3, 4v4, 5v5, tie after x minutes, shootout, or even just end the game after 60 and call it a tie, it can be up to them. At the end of the day, league standings mean jack squat for national tournament consideration, only for how the league determines who to send as their auto-bid. And in all reality, the same could theoretically also be done for league playoffs, although you might have a riot on your hands if you actually did that, because as much as it is taxing on the players, stalemate is historically exciting for the spectators, and has been used in the past for match fixing by producers to garner ratings.

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                        • #87
                          Re: Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix?

                          Originally posted by e.cat View Post
                          I don't necessarily like the shootout either but I would rather have a shootout win than an OT tie to end the game.
                          Why in the world would you object to each team receiving a standings point when, after regulation plus OT, neither team proved to be better than the other? It's the only fair outcome. Neither a shootout nor any other "gimmick" establishes the superiority of one team over the other to the extent that it justifies an artificial advantage in the standings. #nothockey
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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Split-N View Post
                            Why in the world would you object to each team receiving a standings point when, after regulation plus OT, neither team proved to be better than the other? It's the only fair outcome. Neither a shootout nor any other "gimmick" establishes the superiority of one team over the other to the extent that it justifies an artificial advantage in the standings. #nothockey
                            My view has evolved on this. If I had my druthers at this point. I'd like to see each team get a point after a regulation tie. A team can get an extra point if they win the OT.
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                            • #89
                              Re: Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix?

                              Originally posted by NCAA watcher View Post
                              ....and also the player health. The grinding game takes such a physical toll on the players, painkillers and other sort of systemic issues. From hits due to being cornered with less ice space, to blocking shots to clog lanes rather than free skating, the players pay a price.
                              I'm not buying this. A couple more shifts every 4th game isn't going to take time off a player's playing career or turn a player into an addict.
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                              • #90
                                Re: Rule Changes: Who got screwed and wants a fix?

                                Originally posted by Sean Pickett View Post
                                I don't consider dislodging the net an odd rule, but I agree that many don't get called, or only called late in a game. As for advancing the puck out of the defensive zone, the rule has existed since 1986-87, when it was Rule 6, Section 34. b.

                                Sean
                                Dislodging isn't really odd so much as the "within the last two minutes or in overtime" clause.

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