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Been reading about how the Bible came to be, and all the books banned from it. Books that would have told us more about Mary, Jesus as a youth, and Jesus from 12 to the start of his public ministry. According to the Gospel of Thomas, Jesus was quite a sh-thead growing up.Facebook: bcowles920 Instagram: missthundercat01
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Originally posted by MissThundercat View PostBeen reading about how the Bible came to be, and all the books banned from it. Books that would have told us more about Mary, Jesus as a youth, and Jesus from 12 to the start of his public ministry. According to the Gospel of Thomas, Jesus was quite a sh-thead growing up.CCT '77 & '78
4 kids
5 grandsons (BCA 7/09, CJA 5/14, JDL 8/14, JFL 6/16, PJL 7/18)
1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)
”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
- Benjamin Franklin
Banned from the St. Lawrence University Facebook page - March 2016 (But I got better).
I want to live forever. So far, so good.
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Originally posted by joecct View PostNot banned, just not made part of canon, for whatever reason. You can still read them, as I have. Plus, there was another cleansing after the Reformation.
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I read a book once- Heresies of the Early Christian Church. Dry as a bone but it talked about how all the decisions were made, the various factions, etc. If it didn't support the resurrection theme- out it went.
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Originally posted by leswp1 View PostI read a book once- Heresies of the Early Christian Church. Dry as a bone but it talked about how all the decisions were made, the various factions, etc. If it didn't support the resurrection theme- out it went.
My favorite treatment is in Copleston's history of philosophy. Vol 2, I think -- the one that does the Patristics. It's heavy going if you're not used to Olde High Oxbridge, but it's fascinating and, like all of Copleston, beautifully reasoned.Last edited by Kepler; 06-27-2018, 09:46 AM.Cornell University
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Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View PostAs a general rule, anything that could likely be dismissed as speculative hearsay (stories from his youth), or any writings that could introduce plausible deniability to the narrative of divine and sinless Jesus being part of a "Trinity" that is still somehow One God, got canned. All of that distracts from the core message anyway.
And there's plenty of stuff in the Bible that folks get distracted by anyways.Go Gophers!
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Originally posted by Kepler View PostI like dry. Remember the author? There were many Christian sects who did not believe in the literal Resurrection because, well let's face it, it's ridiculous. But TPTB felt they needed the pizzazz to get the crowds in, so the non-magical people were suppressed (or worse).
My favorite treatment is in Copleston's history of philosophy. Vol 2, I think -- the one that does the Patristics. It's heavy going if you're not used to Olde High Oxbridge, but it's fascinating and, like all of Copleston, beautifully reasoned.
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Originally posted by 5mn_Major View PostPersonally I'm ok with that. I don't care if the case for Christ's existence in the Bible is airtight or not - its not already. The details are literally not important - the big picture is critically important and helps people worldwide on a daily basis.
And there's plenty of stuff in the Bible that folks get distracted by anyways.
God's a great idea until you start taking it literally.Cornell University
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Originally posted by Kepler View PostWhich would work if people treated it as a parable or a metaphor. Unfortunately people treat it like a command line reference. And that means all that ahem distracting (I believe the term you were looking for was "embarrassing") stuff gets put into practice by people who then wind up harming others because of their "deep felt religious beliefs."
God's a great idea until you start taking it literally.
The problematic part is when people, with differing agendas, either consciously or unconsciously use this context to override the Gospels. And there is no shortage of outside motivations.Go Gophers!
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Originally posted by 5mn_Major View PostAgree with the point on parable. But leadup content shouldn't be embarrassing. Its quite relevant as context for the main story.
The problematic part is when people, with differing agendas, either consciously or unconsciously use this context to override the Gospels. And there is no shortage of outside motivations.
There's stuff in the Gospels that's dumb, too.Cornell University
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Originally posted by Kepler View PostThe Gospels have Jesus telling us to throw away all our property and turn our backs on our family and follow him.
There's stuff in the Gospels that's dumb, too.Go Gophers!
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So I've been checking out Grace Episcopal. A member came up to me and said "all are welcome at the table." Even though I don't believe in much of anything, they call me one of their own there, and the Rector there is basically my new best friend.Facebook: bcowles920 Instagram: missthundercat01
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Originally posted by MissThundercat View PostSo I've been checking out Grace Episcopal. A member came up to me and said "all are welcome at the table." Even though I don't believe in much of anything, they call me one of their own there, and the Rector there is basically my new best friend.
Regardless, top priority for church is local community and help for anyone who can benefit.Go Gophers!
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