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  • #76
    Re: Business, Economics & Tax Policy 7: Workers of the world unite!

    Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
    Labor as coercion

    "When a man is running from his boss who holds a gun that fires cost."
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    • #77
      Re: Business, Economics & Tax Policy 7: Workers of the world unite!

      Company towns?

      Do they still exist in the US? Finland?
      a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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      • #78
        Re: Business, Economics & Tax Policy 7: Workers of the world unite!

        Paul Krugman's Editorial on the School Teacher Strike phenomenon around the country.

        https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/23/o...imes&smtyp=cur

        One way to think about what’s currently happening in a number of states is that the anti-Obama backlash, combined with the growing tribalism of American politics, delivered a number of state governments into the hands of extreme right-wing ideologues. These ideologues really believed that they could usher in a low-tax, small-government, libertarian utopia.

        Predictably, they couldn’t. For a while they were able to evade some of the consequences of their failure by pushing the costs off onto public sector employees, especially schoolteachers. But that strategy has reached its limits. Now what?

        Well, some Republicans have actually proved willing to learn from experience, reverse tax cuts and restore education funding. But all too many are responding the way Bevin did: Instead of admitting, even implicitly, that they were wrong, they’re lashing out, in increasingly unhinged ways, at the victims of their policies.
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        • #79
          Re: Business, Economics & Tax Policy 7: Workers of the world unite!

          Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
          Company towns?

          Do they still exist in the US? Finland?
          All currency is scrip. The company's just bigger.
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          • #80
            Re: Business, Economics & Tax Policy 7: Workers of the world unite!

            So peeps shouldn't have to work if they choose not to?
            a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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            • #81
              Re: Business, Economics & Tax Policy 7: Workers of the world unite!

              Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
              So peeps shouldn't have to work if they choose not to?
              The rich have managed it for thousands of years.

              If you have a sh-tty enough job that nobody wants to do it, set the pay rate high enough. What people shouldn't have to do is choose between that sort of labor for peanuts and death. We're just used to it so we're not appalled by it, but our great grandchildren will see it as slavery.
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              • #82
                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                The rich have managed it for thousands of years.
                But....

                Way back at some point "A" person did work. Now they spend that (the rich).
                a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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                • #83
                  Re: Business, Economics & Tax Policy 7: Workers of the world unite!

                  But if the pay for $h!t jobs is too high, nobody could afford their product.
                  a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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                  • #84
                    Re: Business, Economics & Tax Policy 7: Workers of the world unite!

                    Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                    But....

                    Way back at some point "A" person did work. Now they spend that (the rich).
                    When wealth is created by machine, men no longer have to be machines. That's what all of technology has been leading to. There's a reason we don't have poor people carry rich people around in those weird ark of the covenant carriages* I can't think of the name of anymore.

                    We are approaching the moment when our tech is good enough that the rich lose the ability to threaten the poor with death unless they do their sh-t work for them. That will be a very good day for humanity. In fact, our best day ever.

                    Don't worry, there will still be rich people to lord it over every one else. It's just that the bottom end of the spectrum won't be quite so destitute. The only person for whom that would remove some of the fun of being rich would be a sadist.

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                    Last edited by Kepler; 04-24-2018, 08:27 AM.
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                    • #85
                      Re: Business, Economics & Tax Policy 7: Workers of the world unite!

                      Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                      But if the pay for $h!t jobs is too high, nobody could afford their product.
                      Exactly. If the owners can't skim billions off the top it isn't worth it to keep the business open. In the case of the public sector they get to skim trillions.
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                      • #86
                        Re: Business, Economics & Tax Policy 7: Workers of the world unite!

                        And what are these crappy jobs that kep defines as?

                        Toilet cleaning in the office?
                        Lettuce pickers?
                        Mar A Lago attendants?
                        a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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                        • #87
                          Re: Business, Economics & Tax Policy 7: Workers of the world unite!

                          Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                          So peeps shouldn't have to work if they choose not to?
                          Of course not, Kepler wants you enslaved, only doing what the overlords (which he acts like he's against but would eventually rise to power) tell you to. Own nothing, and be happy about it. Not eat meat unless it's your birthday. Live within a 200 sq ft coffin apartment. Only receive for compensation some universal basic income.
                          Last edited by FlagDUDE08; 04-24-2018, 08:27 AM.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                            Exactly. If the owners can't skim billions off the top it isn't worth it to keep the business open. In the case of the public sector they get to skim trillions.
                            Well one should expect return off their capital? No?

                            And some soul can always open up shop and sell for less to take that market share if profit margins are too high? Right?
                            a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                              When wealth is created by machine, men no longer have to be machines. That's what all of technology has been leading to. There's a reason we don't have poor people carry rich people around in those weird ark of the covenant carriages* I can't think of the name of anymore.

                              We are approaching the moment when our tech is good enough that the rich lose the ability to threaten the poor with death unless they do their sh-t work for them. That will be a very good day for humanity. In fact, our best day ever.

                              Don't worry, there will still be rich people to lord it over every one else. It's just that the bottom end of the spectrum won't be quite so destitute. The only person for whom that would remove some of the fun of being rich would be a sadist.

                              * Litters
                              This sounds like why mookie accepts welfare. Throw some peanuts at the dregs to keep them from poaching on your porch and breaking in to eat.
                              Basic econ101 there..
                              a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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                              • #90
                                Re: Business, Economics & Tax Policy 7: Workers of the world unite!

                                Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                                Well one should expect return off their capital? No?

                                And some soul can always open up shop and sell for less to take that market share if profit margins are too high? Right?
                                Nope. Soul has to compete and he can't compete with the guy with billions and trillions. Mom and Pop are being destroyed.

                                Meanwhile Capital >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Labor. In taxes. In riches. In everything.
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                                Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
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