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    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
    Yikes. Pretty dominant.

    That being said, the B1G did get more teams in the NCAA Tournament (4-3) and Frozen Four (3-1) and had a pretty good run in the NCAA Tournament, going a collective 7-4. However, the NCHC went 5-2...including going 3-1 against the B1G, and claimed the national title.

    Decent arguments could be made both ways as for who was "better" this season, but I think the two conferences are pretty close to each other in terms of strength. Given that, the B1G certainly closed the gap that had existed the past 2-3 seasons, and the "West" definitely has the edge in hockey at the moment. Now we just have to wait until next season to see where it goes.
    Very fair assessment Fighting Sioux 23. But how fun is being reasonable and fair and honest??? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tipsy McStagger View Post
    This isn't the time to be magnanimous. This is the time to rub their noses in it. Especially Speed Kills, Fred, and Dubbs
    Rub my nose in it? I never predicted a B1G team would win the Title. The fact 3 B1G teams got into the FF escaped your notice? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenthoven View Post
    Agree with ridiculing those posters. But many of us don't claim them as part of our fanbases, so at least be fair about it.
    Brenthoven, honestly, who are you to decide who gets to claim themselves as a Gopher fan or not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by willythekid View Post
    Ten years ago the NCHC and the big10 didn't exist in college hockey... Who knows about next year... A smart betting man would put money on the NCHC being the better of the two conferences. Again.
    lol, why would that be? You all underestimated the B1G. I'd say you shouldn't do it from here on out.

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    Brenthoven, honestly, who are you to decide who gets to claim themselves as a Gopher fan or not?
    I have tArrogance, as many of these other posters can attest to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenthoven View Post
    I have tArrogance, as many of these other posters can attest to.
    You've got something. Might want to hit the doctors office and get that checked out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time View Post
    You first D.Jr.
    I f*ing hate agreeing with JBSU, but in this case......
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenthoven View Post
    I f*ing hate agreeing with JBSU, but in this case......
    Irrational hatred often leads people to make strange bedfellows.

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    With you...the hatred is rational.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FredsDeadFriend View Post
    lol, why would that be? You all underestimated the B1G. I'd say you shouldn't do it from here on out.
    Why would that be? Probably because of the past history of the NCHC's dominance over big10 schools in hockey since realignment. As far as underestimating the big10, talk is big... The whole college hockey world has heard for years that the big10 will dominate hockey. Maybe it's time for you to lower your expectations a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willythekid View Post
    The whole college hockey world has heard for years that the big10 will dominate hockey.
    They did?

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    I tweeted this yesterday. For understanding:

    TOTAL NCAA TEAMS: 80 (16 x 5 years)
    TOTAL FROZEN FOUR: 20 (4 x 5 years)
    CHAMPS: 5

    Parens show number of teams.

    In its five years, the NCHC has had 25 percent of NCAA tourney teams (20), 40 percent of Frozen Four teams (8), and 60 percent of national champions (3).

    Other conferences:
    AHC - 6.25 percent NCAA teams (5), no Frozen Fours
    B1G: 13.75 percent NCAA teams (11), 20 percent Frozen Fours (4), no titles
    ECAC: 18.75 percent NCAA teams (15), 15 percent Frozen Fours (3), 20 percent titles (1)
    Hockey East: 26.25 percent NCAA teams (21), 25 percent Frozen Fours (5), 20 percent titles (1)
    WCHA: 10 percent NCAA teams (8), no Frozen Fours
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    Frankly, I still think that anything after percent NCAA teams is almost irrelevant. Everything is a coin flip as we've seen in recent years and was confirmed in the ESPN broadcast. The 1 v 4 matchup is barely an edge for the 1 seed anymore.

    It's really hard to draw conclusions beyond that. Maybe use the KRACH after the post-season is completed. I have no idea.
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    WCHA: 37 titles and counting... everyone else is a distant second.
    (Sorry quitters, but previously earned credits do not transfer with you to your new conferences...
    Just be glad the NCAA didn't make your team sit out a year before playing in your new conference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnsonsJerseys View Post
    Sorry quitters, but previously earned credits do not transfer with you to your new conferences...
    But for the schools the "previously earned credits" stay with them as they move to another conference, i.e. Michigan should not "lose" the titles they won when they were in the WCHA and then the CCHA. Likewise, should the ECAC get credit for the titles that BC and BU won prior to 1984, or do they go to Hockey East, or do they just vanish?

    Bottom line: Using NCAA Championships as a way to determine conference strength doesn't make much sense - too many moving parts over the years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnsonsJerseys View Post
    WCHA: 37 titles and counting... everyone else is a distant second.
    (Sorry quitters, but previously earned credits do not transfer with you to your new conferences...
    Just be glad the NCAA didn't make your team sit out a year before playing in your new conference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by D2D View Post
    But for the schools the "previously earned credits" stay with them as they move to another conference, i.e. Michigan should not "lose" the titles they won when they were in the WCHA and then the CCHA. Likewise, should the ECAC get credit for the titles that BC and BU won prior to 1984, or do they go to Hockey East, or do they just vanish?

    Bottom line: Using NCAA Championships as a way to determine conference strength doesn't make much sense - too many moving parts over the years.
    Using previously earned credits is fine... everyone has an opinion. These big vs NCHC threads are just a fun way to pass time and maybe rile up a few blow-hards. BTW, anybody checked on SpeedKills lately? It does bring up an interesting topic though... comparing the big to the NCHC can be done since they both formed at the same time and were brand new conferences...

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