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    Re: The National >>>>> B1G

    Quote Originally Posted by chickod View Post
    Except that in the context of hockey the "Big Ten" didn't exist. A similar analogy would be when Harvard won the ECAC. Yeah, by default they also won the "Ivy League," except that the Ivy League didn't really exist for hockey. The SCHOOLS that were in it were all members of the ECAC.

    (So when Bob Gamere, on the ECAC game of the week on Channel 7, used to say "Harvard comes into the game 2-7 BUT 2-0 in the Ivy League," he was technically wrong).
    it doesn't really matter, but as far as I know, the Big Ten officially awarded a conference championship for those years. did the Ivy league?
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    The reason for the talent in the west? Because MN didn't rely on Canada.

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    Re: The National >>>>> B1G

    Quote Originally Posted by UMICH View Post
    Statistics can be manipulated. So just because Michigan, sparty, Minnesota, and Wisconsin were in the WCHA when they won several titles the B1G doesn't get credit for those titles? Of course the WCHA will have more titles because they've been around since the dawn of time for college hockey. But if Minnesota fans are going to claim that is correct they must also bow to the superiority of The University of Michigan (we were here before you).
    michigan only won those early championships because they were the only school that awarded hockey scholarships. they should have won every single game, and gone undefeated for those years.
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    The reason for the talent in the west? Because MN didn't rely on Canada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy View Post
    it doesn't really matter, but as far as I know, the Big Ten officially awarded a conference championship for those years. did the Ivy league?
    Yes, the Ivy League recogonizes the champion as the regular season winner among the six schools. I don't know if they award a trophy (back in the days of the Quadrangular/Pentagonal Hockey League they awarded the Hobey Baker Trophy), but I know Harvard has banners for their men's and women's Ivy League titles hanging in Bright-Landry. I also believe Cornell has banners as well. To my knowledge the men have always based the champion on regular season games only. On the other hand, the women originially did have a postseason tournament with the winner getting one of four ECAC playoff spots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy View Post
    michigan only won those early championships because they were the only school that awarded hockey scholarships. they should have won every single game, and gone undefeated for those years.
    They did pretty well with 6 of the first 9 titles (all before the WCHA was formed). Since then not so well.

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    Re: The National >>>>> B1G

    Quote Originally Posted by Happy View Post
    it doesn't really matter, but as far as I know, the Big Ten officially awarded a conference championship for those years.
    I believe Minnesota has a few Big Ten banners hanging at Mariucci Arena from those days, or at least used to.
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    Re: The National >>>>> B1G

    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Pickett View Post
    Yes, the Ivy League recogonizes the champion as the regular season winner among the six schools. I don't know if they award a trophy (back in the days of the Quadrangular/Pentagonal Hockey League they awarded the Hobey Baker Trophy), but I know Harvard has banners for their men's and women's Ivy League titles hanging in Bright-Landry. I also believe Cornell has banners as well. T
    Brown definitely had Pentagonal League banner and Ivy league banners. I should have gone to Yale, Dartmouth, and Princeton when I lived in the east...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon View Post
    Brown definitely had Pentagonal League banner and Ivy league banners. I should have gone to Yale, Dartmouth, and Princeton when I lived in the east...
    I've been to every Ivy League rink and I just don't recall what banners they had at Brown, Yale, Dartmouth or Princeton. Princeton does have nice areas in the rink dedicated to Hobey Baker and Patty Kazmaier and I believe they had banners just above and behind the press balcony at one end, but I don;t recall for what.

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    Re: The National >>>>> B1G

    Quote Originally Posted by Happy View Post
    michigan only won those early championships because they were the only school that awarded hockey scholarships. they should have won every single game, and gone undefeated for those years.
    You're pathetic.
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    Still bitter, eh? Gotta get over it someday. He left, and UMICH was right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Pickett View Post
    I'm not sure what you are referring to about Michigan being "here" before Minnesota since Minnesota's first hockey team played in the 1921-22 season and Michigan's first hockey team played the following season, 1922-23 (and which Minnesota was 3-1 vs Michigan). Minnesota and Michigan also both show that Minnesota leads the all-time series vs Michigan. If you're just going with which university was founded first you are correct, but that has nothing to do with hockey.
    Oh please, Michigan was founded in 1817, minny was established in 1851. We were here before them. The University is far more important than a team. And I say this as everyone here is a college hockey fan. But if you're going to stand by that point why does Michigan have more National Championships than minny?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UMICH View Post
    Oh please, Michigan was founded in 1817, minny was established in 1851. We were here before them. The University is far more important than a team. And I say this as everyone here is a college hockey fan. But if you're going to stand by that point why does Michigan have more National Championships than minny?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UMICH View Post
    You're pathetic.
    And absolutely correct. The best way to be.
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    The reason for the talent in the west? Because MN didn't rely on Canada.

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    Re: The National >>>>> B1G

    Quote Originally Posted by UMICH View Post
    Oh please, Michigan was founded in 1817, minny was established in 1851. We were here before them. The University is far more important than a team. And I say this as everyone here is a college hockey fan. But if you're going to stand by that point why does Michigan have more National Championships than minny?
    Here is your answer.


    michigan only won those early championships because they were the only school that awarded hockey scholarships. they should have won every single game, and gone undefeated for those years.
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    The reason for the talent in the west? Because MN didn't rely on Canada.

    Quote Originally Posted by MN Pond Hockey View Post
    Menards could have sold a lot of rope

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    Quote Originally Posted by Happy View Post
    Here is your answer.


    michigan only won those early championships because they were the only school that awarded hockey scholarships. they should have won every single game, and gone undefeated for those years.
    You're rationalizing Happy. Go away.
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    You're pathetic.
    The truth hurts.
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    Re: The National >>>>> B1G

    Quote Originally Posted by 4four4 View Post
    The truth hurts.
    And you didn't even make the tournament this year, and you hosted the Frozen Four. We also swept your pathetic butts out of your own rink....
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    Quote Originally Posted by UMICH View Post
    You're rationalizing Happy. Go away.
    I love it when I am right.
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    The reason for the talent in the west? Because MN didn't rely on Canada.

    Quote Originally Posted by MN Pond Hockey View Post
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    Re: The National >>>>> B1G

    Quote Originally Posted by Happy View Post
    I love it when I am right.
    Too bad that never happens.
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    Still bitter, eh? Gotta get over it someday. He left, and UMICH was right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UMICH View Post
    Too bad that never happens.
    Actually, I am right about Michigan winning it's first National Championships because they offered scholarships, and the other schools did not. With that advantage, they really should have won every game.
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    The reason for the talent in the west? Because MN didn't rely on Canada.

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    Re: The National >>>>> B1G

    Michigan has won 2 titles in the past 50 years. Are there Michigan fans that still think the first 7 titles have any relevance? How many of those players are still alive? Just stop.

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    Re: The National >>>>> B1G

    Quote Originally Posted by Happy View Post
    Actually, I am right about Michigan winning it's first National Championships because they offered scholarships, and the other schools did not. With that advantage, they really should have won every game.
    or at least done the honorable thing like denver did with their professional players and not participated
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