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“We offer no apology for our location at 64 51’21’’ north latitude. We are building for the future and we are confident that well directed effort and education are the forces which make progress possible”
—UA President Charles E. Bunnell, 1925
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Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View PostNo way MTU accepts being in that version of the WCHA.Just to be clear. My disinterest in this team became of the Uni's disinterest. Without the success of the hockey team, the other teams would not be where they are. Way to pay back the hockey team. **** UAA.
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Originally posted by Squarebanks View PostANC/FAI-Minny is five hours nonstop on a jet. Tack on a couple more hours on a prop, plus at least one fuel stop, and it sounds like a positively horrible experience.CCT '77 & '78
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Originally posted by joecct View PostBSU changed in Seattle. 15 hrs BSU -> FAI“We offer no apology for our location at 64 51’21’’ north latitude. We are building for the future and we are confident that well directed effort and education are the forces which make progress possible”
—UA President Charles E. Bunnell, 1925
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Originally posted by joecct View PostBSU changed in Seattle. 15 hrs BSU -> FAIMTU: Three time NCAA champions.
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No one of sound mind is flying a Dornier 328 from the Lower 48 to ANC or FAI. Not only do they lack the baggage capacity for a hockey team (which is why WCHA teams bus to bigger cities to fly commercial in the first place), but I've been on that plane, and they are loud, obnoxious pieces of sh*t that get tossed around and are subject to wind shear in unpredictable Rockies turbulence.
EDIT: Also, you're forgetting that if the league owned a plane outright, they would be on the hook for insurance, fuel, hangar/parking fees, landing fees, paying probably at least 2-3 crews, etc.
Case closed.Last edited by FadeToBlack&Gold; 05-29-2018, 08:03 PM.
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Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View PostNo one of sound mind is flying a Dornier 328 from the Lower 48 to ANC or FAI. Not only do they lack the baggage capacity for a hockey team (which is why WCHA teams bus to bigger cities to fly commercial in the first place), but I've been on that plane, and they are loud, obnoxious pieces of sh*t that get tossed around and are subject to wind shear in unpredictable Rockies turbulence.
EDIT: Also, you're forgetting that if the league owned a plane outright, they would be on the hook for insurance, fuel, hangar/parking fees, landing fees, paying probably at least 2-3 crews, etc.
Case closed."The use of common sense and logic will not be tolerated and may result in fine and/or suspension."- Western Professional Hockey League By-laws. 1999-2000.
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Originally posted by davyd83 View PostNMU flew out of MSP to FAI last year and has done it out of MQT several times. My MQT-FAI trips have ranged from 16-21 1/2 hours. ANC, 9-16.
D328 also has a substantially lower max takeoff weight than a CRJ. I suppose if NMU bought all the seats/chartered out the whole CRJ from Sawyer, then including gear, it probably works. Or if the NCAA sent a 737, like they did for Tech the last couple of playoff trips.Last edited by FadeToBlack&Gold; 05-29-2018, 09:36 PM.
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Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View PostNo one of sound mind is flying a Dornier 328 from the Lower 48 to ANC or FAI. Not only do they lack the baggage capacity for a hockey team (which is why WCHA teams bus to bigger cities to fly commercial in the first place), but I've been on that plane, and they are loud, obnoxious pieces of sh*t that get tossed around and are subject to wind shear in unpredictable Rockies turbulence.
EDIT: Also, you're forgetting that if the league owned a plane outright, they would be on the hook for insurance, fuel, hangar/parking fees, landing fees, paying probably at least 2-3 crews, etc.
Case closed.
I'll try to clarify. The teams fly commercial from Minneapolis to ANC or Fairbanks, (or from chicago, who cares). but the league, instead of having them bus to minny, leases a plane to fly them from the city they are in, to Minneapolis or from Minneapolis to the city they are in to play in.. This is often a significant bus ride.
For instance take LSSU. As it is now, to get to ANC they fly on a crummy commuter to Detroit, wait 4 hours, then on a flight to Seattle, wait 4 more hours, then on a flight to ANC. But if the league had a plane for their use, it would be one flight to Minneapolis, 1.5 hours, and connect to direct to ANC with minimal wait.
Coming back it's even better because the flight back is a red eye. leave ANC at midnight, arrive Minneapolis at 8 am, plane picks you up and you are home at 10:30. vs going to Seattle, arriving at 5 am, waiting 4 hours, fly to Minnesota or Detroit or Chicago, change again, fly to an airport near home, take the bus. Arrive at midnight.
And I particularly said lease/own. either way you pay. it's different than a charter because the league has 100% call on the plane and it's a lot cheaper.And some of these planes have bigger luggage capacity than others.Last edited by manurespreader; 05-29-2018, 10:10 PM.MTU: Three time NCAA champions.
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Originally posted by Squarebanks View PostANC/FAI-Minny is five hours nonstop on a jet. Tack on a couple more hours on a prop, plus at least one fuel stop, and it sounds like a positively horrible experience.
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Originally posted by manurespreader View PostSure but... NO ONE is suggesting that plane fly to ANC, that's nuts.Or over the rockies, either, what i am suggesting is that it fly from Bg to Minnesota. or Bemidji to Huntsville. It's not going to happen, of course, but you all want a solution, it's a solution.
I'll try to clarify. The teams fly commercial from Minneapolis to ANC or Fairbanks, (or from chicago, who cares). but the league, instead of having them bus to minny, leases a plane to fly them from the city they are in, to Minneapolis or from Minneapolis to the city they are in to play in.. This is often a significant bus ride.
For instance take LSSU. As it is now, to get to ANC they fly on a crummy commuter to Detroit, wait 4 hours, then on a flight to Seattle, wait 4 more hours, then on a flight to ANC. But if the league had a plane for their use, it would be one flight to Minneapolis, 1.5 hours, and connect to direct to ANC with minimal wait.
Coming back it's even better because the flight back is a red eye. leave ANC at midnight, arrive Minneapolis at 8 am, plane picks you up and you are home at 10:30. vs going to Seattle, arriving at 5 am, waiting 4 hours, fly to Minnesota or Detroit or Chicago, change again, fly to an airport near home, take the bus. Arrive at midnight.
And I particularly said lease/own. either way you pay. it's different than a charter because the league has 100% call on the plane and it's a lot cheaper.And some of these planes have bigger luggage capacity than others.
As you admit, still won't happen. Makes for a fun idea though.
"Crummy commuter" - dontcha know the CRJ-200 is properly called the "Flying Bus"?
Originally posted by JohnsonsJerseys View PostGood news! I guess the WCHA front office does read this page. Due to some of the required logo changes in MLB next season, the WCHA has acquired a plane for the league's teams to use at minimal cost. All it needs is a new paint job. We're all traveling in style to Alaska now...
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*snip*Last edited by FadeToBlack&Gold; 05-30-2018, 12:13 AM.
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Originally posted by manurespreader View PostSure but... NO ONE is suggesting that plane fly to ANC, that's nuts.Or over the rockies, either, what i am suggesting is that it fly from Bg to Minnesota. or Bemidji to Huntsville. It's not going to happen, of course, but you all want a solution, it's a solution.
I'll try to clarify. The teams fly commercial from Minneapolis to ANC or Fairbanks, (or from chicago, who cares). but the league, instead of having them bus to minny, leases a plane to fly them from the city they are in, to Minneapolis or from Minneapolis to the city they are in to play in.. This is often a significant bus ride.
For instance take LSSU. As it is now, to get to ANC they fly on a crummy commuter to Detroit, wait 4 hours, then on a flight to Seattle, wait 4 more hours, then on a flight to ANC. But if the league had a plane for their use, it would be one flight to Minneapolis, 1.5 hours, and connect to direct to ANC with minimal wait.
Coming back it's even better because the flight back is a red eye. leave ANC at midnight, arrive Minneapolis at 8 am, plane picks you up and you are home at 10:30. vs going to Seattle, arriving at 5 am, waiting 4 hours, fly to Minnesota or Detroit or Chicago, change again, fly to an airport near home, take the bus. Arrive at midnight.
And I particularly said lease/own. either way you pay. it's different than a charter because the league has 100% call on the plane and it's a lot cheaper.And some of these planes have bigger luggage capacity than others.
IMO, if one of the biggest knock on the league is the travel, one would think the league would think outside the box to fix that. This kind of proposal would make the experience much more tolerable. As stated, now you are dealing with flights into/out of MSP only. It because your travel hub.
Let's expand the proposal a bit and talk about using it for Huntsville as well. It could alleviate travel there as well.
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Originally posted by Lost_Husky View PostIMO, if one of the biggest knock on the league is the travel,Originally posted by dicaslover
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Originally posted by MaizeRage View PostThat wasn't why Bergeron said he wanted out of the league.Michigan Tech Legend, Founder of Mitch's Misfits, Co-Founder of Tech Hockey Guide, and Creator/Host of the Chasing MacNaughton Podcast covering MTU Hockey and the WCHA.
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