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Re: 2018-19 Penn State Nittany Lions
Originally posted by ZedLeppelin View PostI wonder what got Loli Fidler to decommit to Harvard and come to Penn State instead. She was a very late addition to the list of incoming freshmen, but she sounds like another "all go" athlete like Rene Gangarosa, so I'm glad to see her coming here, and focusing all that energy into hockey now. I always like to see Minnesota players come to Penn State, but I do like Kampersal's recruiting reach, too.
Back to the goalie issue - I'm just going to assume Kampersal has to get a third goalie for next season, so my questions would be these: does he go after a freshman who knows she will be a practice goalie for four years, or does he do whatever coaches do to get an experienced transfer who has a year or two left (with the two current goalies being a sophomore and redshirt freshman)? Does he put the season on the shoulders of the current sophomore goalie, Chantal Burke?
Sometimes I believe that the decommits from the IVYs are due to the player not being able to get in to the school - not saying that is the case here as I have no idea but I have seen that before - or any other school for that matter, if they player is not able to get through admissions then they need to look elsewhere.
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Originally posted by Reddington View PostWhen Kampresal was at Princeton, he definitely preferred multi sport players. Fidler also fits that blueprint as she has played hockey, soccer and lax and won Edina's female sportster of the year award.
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Originally posted by ThreeSkates View PostSometimes I believe that the decommits from the IVYs are due to the player not being able to get in to the school - not saying that is the case here as I have no idea but I have seen that before - or any other school for that matter, if they player is not able to get through admissions then they need to look elsewhere.
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Originally posted by HockeyEast33 View PostClassic Katey Stone - over-commit and then whinny the recruiting class down by using the "admissions" process to cut out the ones she doesn't want in the end - although it is occasionally true that the cut player actually fails to get in (see Kendall Coyne). Been happening for years.
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Originally posted by HockeyEast33 View PostClassic Katey Stone - over-commit and then whinny the recruiting class down by using the "admissions" process to cut out the ones she doesn't want in the end - although it is occasionally true that the cut player actually fails to get in (see Kendall Coyne). Been happening for years.
And no, she is not my daughter, nor does she play for my kids team or are there any other ties from me to her.
I do not believe that Coach Stone did anything wrong here. It would not be a good move if she pulled something here with Fidler. I have to believe that Fidler's HS coach (Harvard Class of 2014ish?) and summer coach (the most influential summer coach in MN if not the country) would not react well now and into the future if that was the case.
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On Ivies: three things frequently happen: sticker shock ( no aid package until you are a senior), grades/test scores and overcomits. And this is just a generalazation.
Dobson is a nice addition. F idler and Gangarosa were recruited by Kampresal when he was at Princeton. Perhaps Dobson was too but can't find anything on line.
The 2020 class committed all as sophomores but Kampresal recruits frosh. Maybe Jackson gets the assist? Hopefully, he was interested in a couple of these girls when he was still at Princeton.
The 2021class will be really the girls he covets, he already has one verbally committed as yes a frosh.
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Originally posted by Rightnut View PostI don't understand the "over-commit" issue for an Harvard or any Ivy. They don't have scholarships and so really don't have any limitations other than roster size. They are not up against the roster limit from what I can tell. I get that they may just not want a player and "cut" them but it seems like this player could help Harvard.
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Originally posted by used2lurk View PostI do not believe that Coach Stone did anything wrong here. It would not be a good move if she pulled something here with Fidler. I have to believe that Fidler's HS coach (Harvard Class of 2014ish?) and summer coach (the most influential summer coach in MN if not the country) would not react well now and into the future if that was the case.
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Originally posted by HockeyEast33 View PostAll coaches (especially Ivy ones) have limitations on the number of players they can help through the admission process (lift from a no/maybe to a yes). All Ivy coaches know that game and how many spots they are allocated via the Academic Index system. Some of them make more verbal commitments than they have allocated slots knowing that some may drop out because: cost/aid results, academics, change of mind. At the end, if they have too many, they just don't support them in the admission process and they get dropped "for academic reasons". It's a game that some of the Ivies play - not a very ethical one but a game nonetheless. Stone is notorious. The old Dartmouth coach was another one. Kampersal did not play the game so much at Princeton - you could rely on his commitment.
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Originally posted by Reddington View PostOn Ivies: three things frequently happen: sticker shock ( no aid package until you are a senior), grades/test scores and overcomits. And this is just a generalazation.
Dobson is a nice addition. F idler and Gangarosa were recruited by Kampresal when he was at Princeton. Perhaps Dobson was too but can't find anything on line.
The 2020 class committed all as sophomores but Kampresal recruits frosh. Maybe Jackson gets the assist? Hopefully, he was interested in a couple of these girls when he was still at Princeton.
The 2021class will be really the girls he covets, he already has one verbally committed as yes a frosh.
She should be the U-18 national team goalie this year. Lead team MN to 2nd place finish 2014 WSI in Bolzano was goalie of tournament. Already compared with Raty who happens to be her goalie trainer.
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