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    Re: BU season thread volume 3.1 cause board/priceless/tippycanoe deleted ours

    Quote Originally Posted by SpauldingSmails View Post
    Particularly around Boston, BC is the default choice due to a number of factors, but is likely driven by actually having a football team and having a consistently strong hockey team. My sons hockey team is way leaning towards BC, with the BU supporters being children of alumni or one degree of separation from the program in one way or another. I always found it a little striking that the blue collar folks in MA would cheer for a school that has among the wealthiest students in the country, but people tend to choose winners (which BC has been super consistent). I would also argue that BC has done a far superior job of youth-level outreach with their players that I have not seen from BU, which definitely drives loyalty early. Whether PC/UMASS or UCONN are better basketball schools is completely irrelevant and has little impact on the fan base outside of alumni.
    I think people in this thread are missing the thing that makes BC the default choice for many. If you are Catholic or were raised Catholic you root for BC, even if you don't know anybody who actually went to school there (this is also true for Notre Dame). Plenty of Catholic people root for BC sports just because of this.

    BU as a non-denominational private school doesn't have any quality that draws in this crossover appeal like a Catholic school would or a public university would for people who live in the state. The only reason anybody would root for BU is if they went there or are related to somebody who did.

    This is my experience as somebody who was raised Catholic but attended BU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chickod View Post
    That's what I initially thought. But unless my eyes are playing tricks on me, when I watched it again last night it didn't go "around" the net - it went OVER and then it hit the back of his skate and caromed off to the side. Maybe someone else can confirm this. It was down the other end from where we were sitting and difficult to see live, but it didn't look like there was any way it could have hit Oettinger's skate if it bounced directly out because the net was in the way. The only way it could have hit his skate was for it to go over the net and land behind him. If you look at the replay again, it's almost like when you short hop a ball against a wall. It hops up into the air. If it hit the board flush and came out along the ice it would have HAD to hit the back of the net.

    It reminded me of Red Hot Hockey (I think it was in 2010). The puck came off the netting, hit the goaltender in the back and caromed into the net. Cornell swore it was a goal. The referees didn't see the puck hit the netting so they literally didn't know where it came from. Review showed that it hit the net so it was out of play.
    99% sure it did NOT go over the net. Seemed like a low, hard shot that was off-angle wide of the right post so that the rebound angled back into the crease from that same right post (Oettinger's left), hit Oettinger and then over to the open Michigan player on the other post.

    BU got some tough bounces in this one but I did think one of the BU goals was offsides, even though it passed a review (didn't seem conclusive enough to overturn it). Honestly the shot that went in off a shin pad was the weirdest one in my opinion. Either way, two shots that were going WAY wide of the net and both ended up in the net one way or another.
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    The fact that you BC fans revel in the superiority of your team in an admittedly weak league leads me to believe you will be more sorely disappointed when the end comes than we will.

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    I'd also like to point out that it was impressive to watch Greenway play after coming back from the Olympics. He was unstoppable at times but I like that he is all business. Doesn't get sucked into the chirping and doesn't chirp back at all. Just all business on the ice, all business on the bench and back on the ice again. I think it plays well to his game.
    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Ambrose on 3/7/2010 View Post
    The fact that you BC fans revel in the superiority of your team in an admittedly weak league leads me to believe you will be more sorely disappointed when the end comes than we will.

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    Re: BU season thread volume 3.1 cause board/priceless/tippycanoe deleted ours

    Greenway just signed. Wishing him tremendous success!

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    Happy with how BU's season played out and gives me hope for next year. Lost to a better team although a few critical boners didn't help complete with goalie misplaying puck (yes, I realize the bounce off the boards was unexpected but as the announcer correctly observed he should have been hugging the post and that puck never gets behind him) and a horrific turnover in front of our own net (Hickey I think on the 4th goal). But, they played hard. It was good to see.

    I have to laugh about this "New England school" lunacy. THERE IS NO NEW ENGLAND SCHOOL! Nobody outside of BC gives a rat's a ss about BC athletics, much like nobody outside of BU gives a rat's a ss about it, or Providence, or UConn, or UMass or whatever. There is no equivalent to the casual fan backing Georgia or Duke or Michigan in those places.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rover View Post
    I have to laugh about this "New England school" lunacy. THERE IS NO NEW ENGLAND SCHOOL! Nobody outside of BC gives a rat's a ss about BC athletics, much like nobody outside of BU gives a rat's a ss about it, or Providence, or UConn, or UMass or whatever. There is no equivalent to the casual fan backing Georgia or Duke or Michigan in those places.
    Pretty much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rover View Post
    a horrific turnover in front of our own net (Hickey I think on the 4th goal)
    That was difficult to see and I'm still not sure. When I saw it live I thought it was one of those plays where he tried to "slide" it over to Crotty and it just "stuck" on the ice (I still say the ice wasn't good - not an excuse because obviously it's the same for both teams - but when they close down time and space you have to make a perfect play and he might have only got 50% "wood" on it). When I watched it again last night it LOOKED like Slaker actually got his stick in there and smothered the pass. OK, yeah, it's still a turnover but it's not like he just gave it away. In other words, not an "unforced error" as they say in tennis. The one that REALLY took away any chance at all (because I still think they could have scored after pulling Oettinger) was the fifth goal which, again, you have to give Michigan credit. Instead of sitting on the lead they kept pressing forward. A lot of teams in that situation would have just dumped in in and made BU go 200 feet. I actually think BU was caught a little flat-footed because they were thinking "offense" and before you know it, it's a two-on-one and in the back of the net. Game over. Season over (to paraphrase John Stirling).

    Quote Originally Posted by Rover View Post
    THERE IS NO NEW ENGLAND SCHOOL!
    I respectfully disagree. I can name dozens of friends who never went to any of the schools but cheer for BC. Agreed that it's mostly because they're the only legitimate D1 football school (sorry UConn), but still, it brings recognition. Point being, they're not "choosing" BU if they're neutral. They're not choosing Stonehill. They're not choosing Curry. They're not choosing Holy Cross. Get it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarlet View Post
    Greenway just signed. Wishing him tremendous success!
    Well sorry to see him go, but he has to move on. Enjoyed watching him play here. Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarlet View Post
    Greenway just signed. Wishing him tremendous success!
    Best of luck to Jordan - he has developed very nicely this year and I think he will be a great fit in the NHL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chickod View Post
    Well it sure is "Massachusetts' School" at least...
    Exactly...I know there are plenty of those subway alums at UConn and Providence that follow those hoop programs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chickod View Post
    That was difficult to see and I'm still not sure. When I saw it live I thought it was one of those plays where he tried to "slide" it over to Crotty and it just "stuck" on the ice (I still say the ice wasn't good - not an excuse because obviously it's the same for both teams - but when they close down time and space you have to make a perfect play and he might have only got 50% "wood" on it). When I watched it again last night it LOOKED like Slaker actually got his stick in there and smothered the pass. OK, yeah, it's still a turnover but it's not like he just gave it away. In other words, not an "unforced error" as they say in tennis. The one that REALLY took away any chance at all (because I still think they could have scored after pulling Oettinger) was the fifth goal which, again, you have to give Michigan credit. Instead of sitting on the lead they kept pressing forward. A lot of teams in that situation would have just dumped in in and made BU go 200 feet. I actually think BU was caught a little flat-footed because they were thinking "offense" and before you know it, it's a two-on-one and in the back of the net. Game over. Season over (to paraphrase John Stirling).



    I respectfully disagree. I can name dozens of friends who never went to any of the schools but cheer for BC. Agreed that it's mostly because they're the only legitimate D1 football school (sorry UConn), but still, it brings recognition. Point being, they're not "choosing" BU if they're neutral. They're not choosing Stonehill. They're not choosing Curry. They're not choosing Holy Cross. Get it?
    1) Looked like he fanned on the pass. Floated right to the Michigan player.

    2) All due respect to your friends, but if BC had any appeal beyond its alums it would fill out its sporting events, particularly football where they can't even sell out a small stadium for marquee opponents not named Notre Dame (and that's all Notre Dame fans filling the place up during those games). Look, its not BC's fault mind you. People around here don't care about college sports except maybe come NCAA hoops tournament time when they're filling out their brackets with teams they've never seen. The college market is too fractured as well as everyone has their own loyalties as opposed to one or two gigantic state schools. It is what it is. In my lifetime I remember two instances where a college team captured the wider public's interest: 1984 BC football with Flutie, and 1996 UMass basketball Final Four team*. That's it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rover View Post
    1) Looked like he fanned on the pass. Floated right to the Michigan player.

    2) All due respect to your friends, but if BC had any appeal beyond its alums it would fill out its sporting events, particularly football where they can't even sell out a small stadium for marquee opponents not named Notre Dame (and that's all Notre Dame fans filling the place up during those games). Look, its not BC's fault mind you. People around here don't care about college sports except maybe come NCAA hoops tournament time when they're filling out their brackets with teams they've never seen. The college market is too fractured as well as everyone has their own loyalties as opposed to one or two gigantic state schools. It is what it is. In my lifetime I remember two instances where a college team captured the wider public's interest: 1984 BC football with Flutie, and 1996 UMass basketball Final Four team*. That's it.
    You mean Marcus Camby and the "Golden Chains"

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    Greenway just signed. Wishing him tremendous success!
    Does he report to Minnesota, Iowa, or does he wait until next season?
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    Quote Originally Posted by buoldtimer View Post
    Does he report to Minnesota, Iowa, or does he wait until next season?
    I'm guessing right to Minnesota? The Wild could have used him last night...they're in the middle of a playoff chase. Well, not so much now after losing to the Bruins in OT last night...

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    I'm guessing right to Minnesota? The Wild could have used him last night...they're in the middle of a playoff chase. Well, not so much now after losing to the Bruins in OT last night...
    He's meeting the Wild in Nashville.
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    Any other flight risks? (We knew Greenway was gone.) Fabbro? (I think he should stay.)

    I like our forward core next year, but will need at least one freshmen to contribute.

    Tier One:
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    Tier Two:
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    Nowhere to go but up
    Crone
    Chabot
    Witkowski

    Time to transfer:
    Cloonan

    On Defense I really liked the way Farrance moved the puck these last four games. They're losing three Seniors, but only one that played regularly. Fabbro and Krys anchoring things as Juniors would be nice. Krys really cut down on his turnovers these last four games.

    Our goalie isn't going anywhere. I'd like to see Max get a few more games early in the year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mookie1995 View Post
    Oh well. Wasn't happening anyway but would have liked to see them keep it going as long as possible--even if it was another loss in the finals
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    Re: BU season thread volume 3.1 cause board/priceless/tippycanoe deleted ours

    So what do we know of for OOC next year? Arizona State (x2 maybe?), Dartmouth, Quinnipiac and Beanpot x2.

    Who else? Iíve lost track of who we owe return trips to etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ericredaxe View Post
    So what do we know of for OOC next year? Arizona State (x2 maybe?), Dartmouth, Quinnipiac and Beanpot x2.

    Who else? Iíve lost track of who we owe return trips to etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bomber View Post
    Any other flight risks? (We knew Greenway was gone.) Fabbro? (I think he should stay.)

    I like our forward core next year, but will need at least one freshmen to contribute.

    Tier One:
    Bobo
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    Cockerill
    Bowers

    Tier Two:
    Curry
    Tkachuck
    Amonte

    Nowhere to go but up
    Crone
    Chabot
    Witkowski

    Time to transfer:
    Cloonan

    On Defense I really liked the way Farrance moved the puck these last four games. They're losing three Seniors, but only one that played regularly. Fabbro and Krys anchoring things as Juniors would be nice. Krys really cut down on his turnovers these last four games.

    Our goalie isn't going anywhere. I'd like to see Max get a few more games early in the year.

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    Fabbro is realistically the only other meaningful flight risk. Someone could draft Brady and think he should develop in the AHL, but that'd be a bad move for him. He needs to add muscle to his frame and further develop his raw talent in a more practice-focused setting.

    It'd be great to see the D corps headed up by experienced upperclassmen in Krys and Fabbro as well as Kasper, Crotty, and Farrance having gotten a lot of solid experience under their belt this year. That way the D corps wouldn't at all be heavily reliant on freshmen.

    The forward core looks very solid as well and also wouldn't be reliant on freshmen to be heavy contributors. Bowers, Bobo, Cockerill, Tkachuk, and Harper on the top two lines bring a lot of experience and skill. I'd love to see Pat Curry improve his skating enough to fill the sixth spot there, he's always been the hardest working guy on the ice but as the year progressed he started to show a knack for sniffing out where a play was going and positioning himself well. If not, he'd be a great anchor for a third line, and perhaps one of the freshman can move into a top-6 slot. I think a lot of what will drive how far the 18-19 squad goes will be dictated by how much of an improvement this year's freshman class make as sophomores. There won't be much in the way of hot shot freshmen coming in who'll demand top line minutes, it seems Farabee is the only one who'd potentially fit into that category. So this year's freshman have every opportunity to continue to earn their minutes next season, especially on defense. I agree on Cloonan probably being a candidate for transfer, especially if he's able to graduate and grad transfer. I'd love to see him excel as he's got elite speed for this level, but he's too much of an offensive liability to continue getting regular minutes.

    It appears there could be some really good balance of talent next season with a good dose of experienced upperclassmen, matured sophomores, and talented freshmen who won't be relied upon to carry the majority of the load. Hopefully Jake can continue his late-season hot streak without the pressure of the WJC and having just been drafted. I was also very encouraged by the discipline with which they played down the stretch in not taking costly penalties that doomed us earlier in the season. Additionally, the coaching staff finally was able to nail down in-game adjustments against all of BC, PC, Cornell, and Michigan - particularly in the breakout scheme and the power play zone entry. They ran into an excellent Michigan team yesterday and the bounces went the other way, but there's a lot to be encouraged about heading into next season.
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