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  • #76
    Re: NCAA Semifinal, Clarkson vs the Ohio State University.

    Originally posted by ARM View Post
    That's not how the Buckeyes play this year. Last year, they did play conservatively, particularly when they held a lead against a higher-ranked team. But this year, they are going to come hard and try to force mistakes. Does anyone have any observations as to whether they played aggressively versus Wisco' the weekend the swept them?
    Correct, you can't go by last season at all. Completely new coaching staff on board and the girls style has changed.

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    • #77
      Re: NCAA Semifinal, Clarkson vs the Ohio State University.

      Originally posted by ARM View Post
      That's not how the Buckeyes play this year. Last year, they did play conservatively, particularly when they held a lead against a higher-ranked team. But this year, they are going to come hard and try to force mistakes. Does anyone have any observations as to whether they played aggressively versus Wisco' the weekend the swept them?
      Not overly so. What OSU does really well is play in 3-5 minute increments. They play with TV timeouts at home and they play with a mentality that they just have to get to the next whistle. It's one of the reasons for the big disparity in play from when they visited Madison, who doesn't play with TV TO and who will skate you into the ground, and when they had UW in Columbus. Obviously they had improved and become a better team, but IMO they did the same thing to UW in Columbus that Clarkson did to them in the NC last year. Wisco plays with pace and when that gets interrupted, they can struggle to regroup. I think they're better at it and more prepared this year, but the Badgers often wear teams down with their depth and speed. You'll see a team stay with them for two periods but fade in the third. There will be TV TO in these games, so Wisco has to have learned something from last year's FF.
      It's a great day for hockey!

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      • #78
        Re: NCAA Semifinal, Clarkson vs the Ohio State University.

        Originally posted by NMH View Post
        There will be TV TO in these games, so Wisco has to have learned something from last year's FF.
        Plus, more teams seemed to use media TO this season (UMD already did, OSU and UW added them), so perhaps the Badgers are more accustomed to them.
        "... And lose, and start again at your beginnings
        And never breathe a word about your loss;" -- Rudyard Kipling

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        • #79
          Re: NCAA Semifinal, Clarkson vs the Ohio State University.

          Originally posted by NMH View Post
          What OSU does really well is play in 3-5 minute increments. They play with TV timeouts at home and they play with a mentality that they just have to get to the next whistle.
          See now this is cool! I think the Bucks are going to go at it with their aggressive style and live or die with the dancer that brought them to the dance

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          • #80
            Re: NCAA Semifinal, Clarkson vs the Ohio State University.

            Originally posted by pgb-ohio View Post
            Good Grief. Next you'll be telling me that they're closing O'Hara's and destroying Charles Schultz's boyhood home.
            O'Gara's. Other than that you are completely correct. A building at Snelling and Selby in Saint Paul that is being proposed for destruction to allow upscale redevelopment includes O'Gara's Bar and Grill, an upstairs apartment which was the home of Charles Schultz and his father, Carl, who operated a barber shop in space on the ground floor which is now occupied by the bar. Preliminary plans call for the bar to reopen in a smaller footprint in the new building.
            Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

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            • #81
              Re: NCAA Semifinal, Clarkson vs the Ohio State University.

              Originally posted by ARM View Post
              That's not how the Buckeyes play this year. Last year, they did play conservatively, particularly when they held a lead against a higher-ranked team. But this year, they are going to come hard and try to force mistakes. Does anyone have any observations as to whether they played aggressively versus Wisco' the weekend the swept them?
              Yes, OSU played aggressively versus Wisco the weekend we swept them. The attack mode was genuinely thrilling. That's not to say the Buckeyes controlled the whole 120 minutes. The Badgers definitely had their strong stretches.

              Originally posted by NMH View Post
              There will be TV TO in these games, so Wisco has to have learned something from last year's FF.
              They're using TV timeouts at the FF? We got this!!

              Well, maybe yes, maybe no. But the coaching staff really has done remarkable job of gaining maximum benefit from the extra timeouts.

              Originally posted by ManBehindTheCurtain View Post
              O'Gara's. Other than that you are completely correct. A building at Snelling and Selby in Saint Paul that is being proposed for destruction to allow upscale redevelopment includes O'Gara's Bar and Grill, an upstairs apartment which was the home of Charles Schultz and his father, Carl, who operated a barber shop in space on the ground floor which is now occupied by the bar. Preliminary plans call for the bar to reopen in a smaller footprint in the new building.
              O'Gara's. Geez, I knew that. The green neon Script O'Gara's even looks a little like Script Ohio. Will have to get a photo of the sign & building before they're gone...

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              • #82
                Re: NCAA Semifinal, Clarkson vs the Ohio State University.

                Originally posted by pgb-ohio View Post

                O'Gara's. Geez, I knew that. The green neon Script O'Gara's even looks a little like Script Ohio. Will have to get a photo of the sign & building before they're gone...
                Thoughts of O'Gara's, Monroe HS, St Patrick's Day, Bemidji, the former team formerly known as the Sioux, and now Clarkson all had me wondering how OSU has done against teams with green colored uniforms in the last few years. Well, if my Harding math is correct which is extremely doubtful, it looks like OSU (my favorite remaining team) has a 43% chance of defeating Clarkson. I wouldn't be too concerned though, the Gophers have had problems over the years with teams with green uniforms and still managed to win 7 national championships. So GO BUCKEYES and beat those "Green Slime" er rather Golden Knights!
                Last edited by bluffrinkrat; 03-15-2018, 01:19 AM. Reason: The Green Wave could be tough.
                "Everything that rises must converge." Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

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                • #83
                  Re: NCAA Semifinal, Clarkson vs the Ohio State University.

                  Originally posted by Blackbeard View Post
                  Take in Lola's Pizza (Pizzeria Lola), Victor's 1959 Cafe, and The Anchor Fish & Chips.
                  Wow, I’m impressed that someone from out of town can give recommendations like that, the Gopher faithful here would have suggested places like Cossetta’s, Matt’s Bar, Annie’s Parlor, or Buffalo Wild Wings.
                  Last edited by pokechecker; 03-15-2018, 07:35 AM. Reason: or O'Gara's

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                  • #84
                    Re: NCAA Semifinal, Clarkson vs the Ohio State University.

                    Some good information for tournament attendees on the GopherSports.com site here:

                    http://www.gophersports.com/sports/w...gn=GopherDaily
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                    • #85
                      Re: NCAA Semifinal, Clarkson vs the Ohio State University.

                      Originally posted by pgb-ohio View Post
                      They're using TV timeouts at the FF? We got this!!
                      TV/media timeouts are ruining the women's game. They destroy the flow of the game and shorten the bench too much.
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                      • #86
                        Re: NCAA Semifinal, Clarkson vs the Ohio State University.

                        Our meeting place before or after hockey games for the last two seasons has been Buffalo Wild Wings. For many years we would go to the Leaning Tower of Pizza, then renamed The Hole, then renamed The Playoff's and now El Loro. We have not gone to El Loro because in the fall of 2015 we went to the Playoff's after a Gopher women's hockey game against Ohio State and the 4 of us sat at our usual table surrounded by Gopher women's hockey photos. The Gopher football team was playing a big game with Nebraska at TCF Bank stadium and we asked the bartender to put the Gopher football game on the television by our table. He said he could not because he and the two other guy's at the bar were watching the South Carolina football game and if he changed the other sets it would also change the set by the bar. We went to BWW's and watched the last quarter of the game there. The Sam Adam's lager is not bad and the chicken wings are pretty good, too.
                        Last edited by bluffrinkrat; 03-15-2018, 01:34 PM. Reason: I already miss Vescio's, too.
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                        • #87
                          Re: NCAA Semifinal, Clarkson vs the Ohio State University.

                          Originally posted by Timothy A View Post
                          TV/media timeouts are ruining the women's game. They destroy the flow of the game and shorten the bench too much.
                          Assume a perfectly lawful tax deduction. You're eligible. And yet, you object to the deduction on philosophical grounds. In fact, you're working to have the law repealed.

                          There's nothing wrong with taking the deduction, as long as it remains lawful to do so.

                          Bottom Line? In Hockey as in Tax Law, coaches work to find legal ways to gain an advantage. And should.

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                          • #88
                            Re: NCAA Semifinal, Clarkson vs the Ohio State University.

                            Originally posted by pgb-ohio View Post
                            Assume a perfectly lawful tax deduction. You're eligible. And yet, you object to the deduction on philosophical grounds. In fact, you're working to have the law repealed.

                            There's nothing wrong with taking the deduction, as long as it remains lawful to do so.

                            Bottom Line? In Hockey as in Tax Law, coaches work to find legal ways to gain an advantage. And should.
                            I'm not at all complaining that coaches take advantage of it, they should and if they didn't they would be derelict in their duty. My beef is from a fan's perspective. I don't like all the pauses and deadtime at the game and I'd like to see the 4th line get some ice time, those girls work hard too and should get on the ice. The artificial rest periods kill 4th line opportunities in semi close games.
                            Wisconsin Hockey: 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 WE WANT MORE!
                            ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                            Come to the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod
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                            Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton:
                            "Baggot says Hughes and Rockwood are centering the top two lines...
                            Timothy A --> Great hockey mind... Or Greatest hockey mind?!?"

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                            • #89
                              Re: NCAA Semifinal, Clarkson vs the Ohio State University.

                              Originally posted by Timothy A View Post
                              The artificial rest periods kill 4th line opportunities in semi close games.
                              Coaches on the men's side skate the fourth line even though they have TV timeouts. Women's coaches fail to develop a fourth line, and thus, don't have one that they trust with the game on the line.
                              "... And lose, and start again at your beginnings
                              And never breathe a word about your loss;" -- Rudyard Kipling

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by ARM View Post
                                Coaches on the men's side skate the fourth line even though they have TV timeouts. Women's coaches fail to develop a fourth line, and thus, don't have one that they trust with the game on the line.
                                I think it has WAY less to do with women's coaches "not developing" a 4th line and more to do with the fact that the talent pool in women's is just WAY less deep
                                Last edited by TonyTheTiger20; 03-15-2018, 04:09 PM.
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