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  • The Ohio State

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  • Clarkson

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    The 2018 Frozen 4

    Now who will end up victorious on Sunday at Ridder?
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    Re: The 2018 Frozen 4

    I think this year the Badgers get revenge for last years embarrassment. I'd love to see OSU against them in that game but Clarkson has shown themselves to be capable of dominating despite having to battle against MU yesterday.

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    Re: The 2018 Frozen 4

    Thirty-eight saves against BC? I'm going with Cinderella.

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    Re: The 2018 Frozen 4

    Poll results from NCAA Championship Thread

    Clarkson 17
    bc6696, bluffrinkrat, D2D, DC78-82, FireKnight, hockeydad23, MAHOCKEY FAN, mattj711, Panda, Russell Jaslow, Scott_TG, Still Eeyore, Timothy A, TonyTheTiger20, vicb, WH Fan, zoofer
    Wisconsin 8
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    Colgate 5
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    The Ohio State 4
    EPIC97, osualum86, pgb-ohio, wmnshkyfan
    Others 5
    Lindsay, hockeymakesmebroke, joecct, MND3Dad, Genbeau

    Will be interesting to see when Friday rolls around who changes their mind.
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    Re: The 2018 Frozen 4

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdtime's . . . View Post
    Thirty-eight saves against BC? I'm going with Cinderella.
    I'd be more than OK with that. Really want the trophy to stay out here where it belongs.

    I think OSU has a better chance against WI than any of the other 6 teams from Friday. But having nothing but their record to go on Clarkson might disagree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vicb View Post
    Will be interesting to see when Friday rolls around who changes their mind.
    Not me - as much as I'd like to see an east team win the championship, I'll take Wisconsin for the win.

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    Re: The 2018 Frozen 4

    Quote Originally Posted by ne7minder View Post
    I think this year the Badgers get revenge for last years embarrassment. I'd love to see OSU against them in that game but Clarkson has shown themselves to be capable of dominating despite having to battle against MU yesterday.
    I mostly agree with this. The Badgers sure looked hungry yesterday. And I want the two "M" gals coaching at OSU to win. But, as Lincoln said to the National Union League quoting an old Dutch farmer, "It's not best to swap horses when crossing streams." So, Clarkson it is.
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    Re: The 2018 Frozen 4

    Quote Originally Posted by vicb View Post
    Poll results from NCAA Championship Thread

    Clarkson 17
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    Will be interesting to see when Friday rolls around who changes their mind.
    The way UW played yesterday (allowed 12 sog) and the fact that Clarkson was dragged to the brink of BC's fate is pushing me towards UW, though Clarkson's firepower and goaltending are hard to ignore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vicb View Post
    Poll results from NCAA Championship Thread

    Clarkson 17
    bc6696, bluffrinkrat, D2D, DC78-82, FireKnight, hockeydad23, MAHOCKEY FAN, mattj711, Panda, Russell Jaslow, Scott_TG, Still Eeyore, Timothy A, TonyTheTiger20, vicb, WH Fan, zoofer
    Wisconsin 8
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    Colgate 5
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    The Ohio State 4
    EPIC97, osualum86, pgb-ohio, wmnshkyfan
    Others 5
    Lindsay, hockeymakesmebroke, joecct, MND3Dad, Genbeau

    Will be interesting to see when Friday rolls around who changes their mind.
    I changed my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vicb View Post
    Will be interesting to see when Friday rolls around who changes their mind.
    It's not a public poll, so we may not see.
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    Would love to see it stay out East....Colgate has never been there and clarkson has shown some weaknesses I didn't expect. I saw Clarkson play 4 times against un ranked teams in ECAC and still can't understand 1 goal wins from what is supposed to be a dominant offense....then again ask BC about dominant offense. I vote Wisconsin

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    Given what I wrote on the other thread, Iím going to have to switch to the Badgers......I think both Clarkson and OSU have the goaltending and defense to try and force the Badgers out of their game but they were flying yesterday! Even if the Gophers arenít their normal selves this year, the Badgers had that je ne cíest quoi.......sorry vicb to reverse my Clarkson vote.....I guess Iím swimm8ng upstream and believing that in this case offense tops defense.......🧐🧐🤔🤔

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoofer View Post
    Given what I wrote on the other thread, Iím going to have to switch to the Badgers......I think both Clarkson and OSU have the goaltending and defense to try and force the Badgers out of their game but they were flying yesterday! Even if the Gophers arenít their normal selves this year, the Badgers had that je ne cíest quoi.......sorry vicb to reverse my Clarkson vote.....I guess Iím swimm8ng upstream and believing that in this case offense tops defense.......🧐🧐🤔🤔
    Nothing to be sorry about. The way Wisconsin and Ohio State dominated two good teams compared to my Knights and Colgate's wins it would be tough not to pick an all WCHA final. Somehow though Matt Desrosier's and his staff gets the knights ready to give anyone a game. The question I have is can the Clarkson goal scorers figure out a way to beat Sauve? She sure looked all world against BC. They had 2 or 3 chances against Mercyhurst that they should have bagged in Regulation and did not. They will not be able to do that against Ohio State or for that matter against Wisconsin or Colgate and expect to win. I was also really impressed with Jincy Dunn on defense. Mercyhurst's goalie in the post game interview said that they knew that they had to stop Clarkson's top line and for most of the game they did. Unfortunately the top line still came thru with the 2 goals needed to win the game. That is the one thing that concerns me with Clarkson. Just like BC, you have a really strong top line but after that the grade A chances and scoring falls off. Against Mercyhurst I honestly cannot think of one grade A chance any of Clarksons other 3 lines generated against hurst. With Tiley in the nets and Clarkson's defense I think the game is gonna be another 1-0, 2-1 type of game which could go either way. I do not expect another 4-3 semifinal like last year's Clarkson-Minnesota matchup.

    As for Wisconsin against Colgate, I don't think Wisconsin will have an easy game. Colgate has more scoring depth throughout their line up compared to Clarkson so you can't prepare for one top line. They have a good defense also. I know she has good stats but the concern I would have for Colgate is Vandyk in the nets compared to Campbell in the Wisconsin nets. That to me is where Wisconsin has more of an edge. And more likely than not, the better goaltending wins games and championships.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vicb View Post
    Somehow though Matt Desrosier's and his staff gets the knights ready to give anyone a game.
    I believe this I think this is key.

    The Knights will be sound. The Knights will be ready to take advantage of opportunities.
    The Buckeyes will be very aggressive.

    Can the aggressiveness of The Ohio State University be effective enough to disturb the soundness of Clarkson?

    Maybe. There is a good chance. But probably not.

    That's my take...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoofer View Post
    Given what I wrote on the other thread, I’m going to have to switch to the Badgers......I think both Clarkson and OSU have the goaltending and defense to try and force the Badgers out of their game but they were flying yesterday! Even if the Gophers aren’t their normal selves this year, the Badgers had that je ne c’est quoi.......sorry vicb to reverse my Clarkson vote.....I guess I’m swimm8ng upstream and believing that in this case offense tops defense.......��������
    I'll reiterate my opinion that Wisconsin doesn't have an especially good offense. Their defense is outstanding, their forecheck is relentless, and they hold on to the puck like a python suffocating a goat, but they are not as effective at putting the puck in the net as you'd think based upon the other things they do well. The Gophers gifted them at least two goals yesterday with basic defensive mistakes. For all of Minnesota's problems, they held the Badgers to one goal during regulation three times in six tries. Their power play is a borderline train wreck.

    I make the Badgers co-favorites with Clarkson, but it's because they never let you have the puck and they're really good at making two goals enough to win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KTDC View Post
    I believe this I think this is key.

    The Knights will be sound. The Knights will be ready to take advantage of opportunities.
    The Buckeyes will be very aggressive.

    Can the aggressiveness of The Ohio State University be effective enough to disturb the soundness of Clarkson?

    Maybe. There is a good chance. But probably not.

    That's my take...lol
    That may have been what BC thought! I had picked Colgate to win it all but the Buckeyes were very impressive against BC and I am taking a flyer on them to win it all.

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    Not sure if you saw it Still Eeyore, but in an earlier post (thread?) I noted Wisconsinís possession ability as well! Maybe itís just that I have Olympic hockey hangover, but as in soccer, I wish possession time was a stat kept in hockey.....IMHO, itís the stat in a game! For us, UNH wasted 90% of the offense because the forwards had to change lines because they were exhausted from chasing the puck......
    Interesting how we all see strengths in the 4 remaining teams......the games will be excellent, 🥅🏒🤙🤙🤙

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoofer View Post
    Not sure if you saw it Still Eeyore, but in an earlier post (thread?) I noted Wisconsinís possession ability as well! Maybe itís just that I have Olympic hockey hangover, but as in soccer, I wish possession time was a stat kept in hockey.....IMHO, itís the stat in a game! For us, UNH wasted 90% of the offense because the forwards had to change lines because they were exhausted from chasing the puck......
    Interesting how we all see strengths in the 4 remaining teams......the games will be excellent, 🥅🏒🤙🤙🤙
    Puck possession is the key. When your team has the puck they increase their scoring chances while simultaneously limiting the opponent's scoring chances. Pretty simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoofer View Post
    Not sure if you saw it Still Eeyore, but in an earlier post (thread?) I noted Wisconsin’s possession ability as well! Maybe it’s just that I have Olympic hockey hangover, but as in soccer, I wish possession time was a stat kept in hockey.....IMHO, it’s the stat in a game! For us, UNH wasted 90% of the offense because the forwards had to change lines because they were exhausted from chasing the puck......
    Interesting how we all see strengths in the 4 remaining teams......the games will be excellent, ����������
    Possession time is a much more complicated concept in hockey than it is in soccer, because possession changes so rapidly and because there are extended stretches in which puck possession is contested. Hockey analytics gave up on trying to measure it directly and found that the number of shots taken (which is not just shots on goal, but also those that miss the net and those that are blocked) is an effective proxy for possession (which it is not in soccer, given that far more of ball possession takes place far from the goal). So this is what is used in stats like Corsi.

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    Obviously by my USCHO name you see where my sentiments lay going with Ohio State obviously. As far as how they will stack up I can't honestly say except that we had our star goalie back in net against BC so as long as she's getting healthier that's a plus for us. Also we played like we were on a mission and we are. We're the team who as they say are the Cinderella team playing not only in their first Frozen 4 but their first NCAA tournament ever! We made some HUGE hires in our coaching staff right at the beginning of the season and even on such short time to prepare it has paid off big! Not only their ability to coach but in the all important mental game in how they motivate these girls to believe in themselves.
    I make no predictions but I think if Ohio State plays their full "A" game they have a legitimate chance.

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