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    Was it the Notre Dame guy who told me that Trump's not terrified of anything right now? He barely won, without a popular mandate, in 2016, and has continued to try and deflect any and all crimes onto Hillary and Obama since then. Let's consider the current reality, OK?
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    Trump isn’t terrified. Republicans with brains are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    Trump isn’t terrified.


    You've seen how he Tweets. Get real.
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    Trump is definitely terrified. He campaigned for Saccone saying "vote R or they will Impeach me" and even that didnt save him in a district he owned 18 months ago. All signs are pointing to a massive wave coming and wen it hits the GOP wont be able to cover up for him anymore.
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    Lamb, a 33-year-old former Marine, cast himself as a centrist Democrat who rejected Nancy Pelosi’s leadership and demurred on restricting gun rights — a strategy that Democrats hope will attract moderate and independent voters in a district that traditionally backs Republicans.
    So, somebody at least understands politics. If you're challenging for a Deplorable seat you can argle bargle about Nancy and prevaricate on guns and then when push comes to shove on important votes you can have an "agonizing reappraisal" and horse trade to the party line in exchange for goodies for your district. That's how politics works. You can reconcile your local realities and party responsibilities by tactical trade offs and come out ahead for yourself and for the party. Why do I even need to explain this to Democrats? Is it really that lost an art?

    We can win rural, white districts with economic populism while still pushing forward on identity issues on substantive votes. The Kossites can't figure this out and the DNC inverts it by insisting on litmus tests with risible Bard undergrad racial and gender language in the national platform while doing nothing on economics (hardly an accident when you look at our donors). But hopefully younger, pragmatic, serious political candidates in the party are coming like a fresh breeze to finally fumigate both the Boomers and their rancid worldview.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post




    Generally speaking, Nate nails it. If Trump had been half as stupid as he's been, Saccone would've had this in the bag.
    Agreed. Saccone is a generic Republican. While he may be a stiff, that description fits most conservatives. Should have won going away especially in this district.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    So, somebody at least understands politics. If you're challenging for a Deplorable seat you can argle bargle about Nancy and prevaricate on guns and then when push comes to shove on important votes you can have an "agonizing reappraisal" and horse trade to the party line in exchange for goodies for your district. That's how politics works. You can reconcile your local realities and party responsibilities by tactical trade offs and come out ahead for yourself and for the party. Why do I even need to explain this to Democrats? Is it really that lost an art?

    We can win rural, white districts with economic populism while still pushing forward on identity issues on substantive votes. The Kossites can't figure this out and the DNC inverts it by insisting on litmus tests with risible Bard undergrad racial and gender language in the national platform while doing nothing on economics (hardly an accident when you look at our donors). But hopefully younger, pragmatic, serious political candidates in the party are coming like a fresh breeze to finally fumigate both the Boomers and their rancid worldview.
    We need more people like him running, on both sides. I won’t be sad if he wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rover View Post
    Agreed. Saccone is a generic Republican. While he may be a stiff, that description fits most conservatives. Should have won going away especially in this district.
    BTW, this district contains the people with the infamous "you know what NFL stands for?" joke. It's odd the GOP dropped 20 points here. These are the people who supposedly are still balls deep into Dumpy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    We need more people like him running, on both sides. I won’t be sad if he wins.
    You will when he votes against your gun interests. (and he will once he wins)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    You will when he votes against your gun interests. (and he will once he wins)
    He will, tactically. He won't if it's just symbolic (when we're going to lose the vote anyway). He will when he's whipped to (when his vote matters, and when he has leverage and can wheedle cash for his hicks and/or pet project).

    But again, THAT'S THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE!!!! It's not about making friends and it's not about making martyred stands for lost causes. It's the art of the possible. Incremental progress towards the good, and practical constraint of evil. If nothing else, even if he sits in that seat as a paper weight he is preventing some frothing villainous piece of sh-t Republican from sitting in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post

    But again, THAT'S THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE!!!! It's not about making friends and it's not about making martyred stands for lost causes. It's the art of the possible. Incremental progress towards the good, and practical constraint of evil. If nothing else, even if he sits in that seat as a paper weight he is preventing some frothing villainous piece of sh-t Republican from sitting in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    He will, tactically. He won't if it's just symbolic (when we're going to lose the vote anyway). He will when he's whipped to (when his vote matters, and when he has leverage and can wheedle cash for his hicks and/or pet project).

    But again, THAT'S THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE!!!! It's not about making friends and it's not about making martyred stands for lost causes. It's the art of the possible. Incremental progress towards the good, and practical constraint of evil. If nothing else, even if he sits in that seat as a paper weight he is preventing some frothing villainous piece of sh-t Republican from sitting in it.
    You think he’s going to sacrifice his career for that? Any meaningful vote he would take is a minimum at three years away. I’m not super concerned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    He will, tactically. He won't if it's just symbolic (when we're going to lose the vote anyway). He will when he's whipped to (when his vote matters, and when he has leverage and can wheedle cash for his hicks and/or pet project).

    But again, THAT'S THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE!!!! It's not about making friends and it's not about making martyred stands for lost causes. It's the art of the possible. Incremental progress towards the good, and practical constraint of evil. If nothing else, even if he sits in that seat as a paper weight he is preventing some frothing villainous piece of sh-t Republican from sitting in it.
    As we noted here before, this tumor cannot be killed; but it doesn't have to be. It can be shrunk and isolated so that we can live long productive lives. A home run is not going to win this thing. A lot of base hits might.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rover View Post
    W T F? Whenever I post this you're all over me! Whoever returned the old Kepler from two years ago and got rid of the imposter we've been dealing with since 2016 I owe you a beer.
    You've never understood my posts. You always substitute a strawman burnout idealist because he's easier for you to then launch your circa 1970 put downs against.

    I want a party that compromises around the edges while moving relentlessly forward on its core principles.

    The Democratic party compromises its core principles while moving relentlessly forward around the edges. That's because both those things are lazy and easy. They wuss out on the central premise of equality to curry favor with the 1% donor class. They insist on strident language around the edges because that's what the conveyor belt of academically trained activists demands in their shortsighted, juvenile posturing. And so when we win we stand for nothing, while we lose winnable elections because of optics and turn the blow torch of government over to the sociopaths on the right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by burd View Post
    As we noted here before, this tumor cannot be killed; but it doesn't have to be. It can be shrunk and isolated so that we can live long productive lives. A home run is not going to win this thing. A lot of base hits might.

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    MARCH 14, 2018

    SUMMARY OF LEGSLATIVE BUSINESS

    Ordering the Previous Question on H. Res. 773 - The rule providing for consideration of H.R. 4545 - Financial Institutions Examination Fairness and Reform Act, H.R. 1116 - TAILOR Act of 2017, and H.R. 4263 - Regulation A+ Improvement Act of 2017 – PASSED 234 – 183, ROLL CALL 104
    Republican YEA – 234; NAY – 0
    Democrat YEA – 0; NAY – 183

    Adoption of H. Res. 773 - The rule providing for consideration of H.R. 4545 - Financial Institutions Examination Fairness and Reform Act, H.R. 1116 - TAILOR Act of 2017, and H.R. 4263 - Regulation A+ Improvement Act of 2017 – PASSED 235 – 182, ROLL CALL 105
    Republican YEA – 232; NAY – 0
    Democrat YEA – 3; NAY – 182

    H.R. 4909 - STOP School Violence Act of 2018, as amended – ON THE MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND PASS – PASSED 407 – 10, ROLL CALL 106
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    H.R. 3996 - Protecting Access to the Courts for Taxpayers Act – ON THE MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND PASS – PASSED BY VOICE

    H.R. 506 - Preventing Crimes Against Veterans Act of 2017, as amended – ON THE MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND PASS – PASSED BY VOICE

    H.R. 3249 - Project Safe Neighborhoods Grant Program Authorization Act of 2017, as amended – ON THE MOTION TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND PASS – PASSED BY VOICE

    Democrat Motion to Recommit on H.R. 1116 – REJECTED 182 – 232, ROLL CALL 107
    Republican YEA – 1; NAY – 232
    Democrat YEA – 181; NAY – 0

    Passage of H.R. 1116 - TAILOR Act of 2017 – PASSED 247 – 169, ROLL CALL 108
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    And then we have this. I stand by my claim that the GOP can't be in charge in Congre$$.

    @wxdam: 17 people die in a high school and a month later there's a nationwide protest to get the attention of lawmakers.

    One dog dies on an airplane and there's a bill in the Senate rectifying it within 48 hours.

    @SenJohnKennedy: I will be filing a bill tomorrow that will prohibit airlines from putting animals in overhead bins. Violators will face significant fines. Pets are family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    And then we have this. I stand by my claim that the GOP can't be in charge in Congre$$.

    @wxdam: 17 people die in a high school and a month later there's a nationwide protest to get the attention of lawmakers.

    One dog dies on an airplane and there's a bill in the Senate rectifying it within 48 hours.

    @SenJohnKennedy: I will be filing a bill tomorrow that will prohibit airlines from putting animals in overhead bins. Violators will face significant fines. Pets are family.
    Only because it is possible. PETA protects animals, while NRA protects profits.

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