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  • #16
    Re: 115th Congress - Fantastik! Try to remember we vote in November.

    Lamb now up 847 with Allegheny all done. Roughly 3200 absentee left in red counties, plus some votes left in Westmoreland.

    Saccone needs over 60% of the absentee unless Westmoreland's votes swing even more to Saccone.
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    • #17
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      There will undoubtedly be a recount, but Lamb should prevail unless there are shenanigans.

      Regardless, this was a landslide Trump district.

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      • #18
        Re: 115th Congress - Fantastik! Try to remember we vote in November.

        Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
        There will undoubtedly be a recount, but Lamb should prevail unless there are shenanigans.

        Regardless, this was a landslide Trump district.
        Shenanigans is the GOP's middle name. I assume they're at 99% in Westmoreland so someone can print up, er find more ballots.
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        • #19
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          Generally speaking, Nate nails it. If Trump had been half as stupid as he's been, Saccone would've had this in the bag.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post
            Lamb now up 847 with Allegheny all done. Roughly 3200 absentee left in red counties, plus some votes left in Westmoreland.

            Saccone needs over 60% of the absentee unless Westmoreland's votes swing even more to Saccone.
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            • #21
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              Was it the Notre Dame guy who told me that Trump's not terrified of anything right now? He barely won, without a popular mandate, in 2016, and has continued to try and deflect any and all crimes onto Hillary and Obama since then. Let's consider the current reality, OK?
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              • #22
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                Trump isn’t terrified. Republicans with brains are.
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                • #23
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                  Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                  Trump isn’t terrified.


                  You've seen how he Tweets. Get real.

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                  • #24
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                    Trump is definitely terrified. He campaigned for Saccone saying "vote R or they will Impeach me" and even that didnt save him in a district he owned 18 months ago. All signs are pointing to a massive wave coming and wen it hits the GOP wont be able to cover up for him anymore.
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                    • #25
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                      Lamb, a 33-year-old former Marine, cast himself as a centrist Democrat who rejected Nancy Pelosi’s leadership and demurred on restricting gun rights — a strategy that Democrats hope will attract moderate and independent voters in a district that traditionally backs Republicans.
                      So, somebody at least understands politics. If you're challenging for a Deplorable seat you can argle bargle about Nancy and prevaricate on guns and then when push comes to shove on important votes you can have an "agonizing reappraisal" and horse trade to the party line in exchange for goodies for your district. That's how politics works. You can reconcile your local realities and party responsibilities by tactical trade offs and come out ahead for yourself and for the party. Why do I even need to explain this to Democrats? Is it really that lost an art?

                      We can win rural, white districts with economic populism while still pushing forward on identity issues on substantive votes. The Kossites can't figure this out and the DNC inverts it by insisting on litmus tests with risible Bard undergrad racial and gender language in the national platform while doing nothing on economics (hardly an accident when you look at our donors). But hopefully younger, pragmatic, serious political candidates in the party are coming like a fresh breeze to finally fumigate both the Boomers and their rancid worldview.
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                      • #26
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                        Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post




                        Generally speaking, Nate nails it. If Trump had been half as stupid as he's been, Saccone would've had this in the bag.
                        Agreed. Saccone is a generic Republican. While he may be a stiff, that description fits most conservatives. Should have won going away especially in this district.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          So, somebody at least understands politics. If you're challenging for a Deplorable seat you can argle bargle about Nancy and prevaricate on guns and then when push comes to shove on important votes you can have an "agonizing reappraisal" and horse trade to the party line in exchange for goodies for your district. That's how politics works. You can reconcile your local realities and party responsibilities by tactical trade offs and come out ahead for yourself and for the party. Why do I even need to explain this to Democrats? Is it really that lost an art?

                          We can win rural, white districts with economic populism while still pushing forward on identity issues on substantive votes. The Kossites can't figure this out and the DNC inverts it by insisting on litmus tests with risible Bard undergrad racial and gender language in the national platform while doing nothing on economics (hardly an accident when you look at our donors). But hopefully younger, pragmatic, serious political candidates in the party are coming like a fresh breeze to finally fumigate both the Boomers and their rancid worldview.
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                          • #28
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                            Originally posted by Rover View Post
                            Agreed. Saccone is a generic Republican. While he may be a stiff, that description fits most conservatives. Should have won going away especially in this district.
                            BTW, this district contains the people with the infamous "you know what NFL stands for?" joke. It's odd the GOP dropped 20 points here. These are the people who supposedly are still balls deep into Dumpy.
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                            • #29
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                              Originally posted by Drew S. View Post
                              We need more people like him running, on both sides. I won’t be sad if he wins.
                              You will when he votes against your gun interests. (and he will once he wins)
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                              • #30
                                Re: 115th Congress - Fantastik! Try to remember we vote in November.

                                Originally posted by Handyman View Post
                                You will when he votes against your gun interests. (and he will once he wins)
                                He will, tactically. He won't if it's just symbolic (when we're going to lose the vote anyway). He will when he's whipped to (when his vote matters, and when he has leverage and can wheedle cash for his hicks and/or pet project).

                                But again, THAT'S THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE!!!! It's not about making friends and it's not about making martyred stands for lost causes. It's the art of the possible. Incremental progress towards the good, and practical constraint of evil. If nothing else, even if he sits in that seat as a paper weight he is preventing some frothing villainous piece of sh-t Republican from sitting in it.
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