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  • Right after the Ottoman Empire surrendered, a group of Greek military personnel, including a Chaplin, went to Hagia Sophia and celebrated the Divine Liturgy.

    The locals were not amused.
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    • Re: 115th Congress - Fantastik! Try to remember we vote in November.

      Getting back on track ..

      Read the editorial (it's a good one) and then at the bottom read the author's credentials.

      http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/...ally-work.html
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      4 kids
      5 grandsons (BCA 7/09, CJA 5/14, JDL 8/14, JFL 6/16, PJL 7/18)
      1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

      ”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
      - Benjamin Franklin

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      I want to live forever. So far, so good.

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      • Originally posted by joecct View Post
        Getting back on track ..

        Read the editorial (it's a good one) and then at the bottom read the author's credentials.

        http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/...ally-work.html
        Yeah, pretty good piece, which is shocking.

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        • Re: 115th Congress - Fantastik! Try to remember we vote in November.

          A cautionary note from PJB...

          http://buchanan.org/blog/no-party-fo...ite-men-129547
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          4 kids
          5 grandsons (BCA 7/09, CJA 5/14, JDL 8/14, JFL 6/16, PJL 7/18)
          1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

          ”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
          - Benjamin Franklin

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          • Originally posted by joecct View Post
            Don’t really get the free college thingy. High school is already free. That can be reshuffled to teach life skills needed in society and the workforce.

            Let college be an extra layer now as it is, but not needed for a large percent of the population.

            Languages should be taught early. Pretty sure it’s known smaller children are more adapt to learn these than later on in life. English Spanish European Asian.... minimum of 3 in grades 2-5. Then middle school can start literature in a number of native languages.

            1/2 split in language/literature, and 1/2 in math and science.
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            • Re: 115th Congress - Fantastik! Try to remember we vote in November.

              Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
              Don’t really get the free college thingy. High school is already free. That can be reshuffled to teach life skills needed in society and the workforce.

              Let college be an extra layer now as it is, but not needed for a large percent of the population.

              Languages should be taught early. Pretty sure it’s known smaller children are more adapt to learn these than later on in life. English Spanish European Asian.... minimum of 3 in grades 2-5. Then middle school can start literature in a number of native languages.

              1/2 split in language/literature, and 1/2 in math and science.
              I do. The first two years tech, or community college should be mandatory and free. After that you're on your own. Right now High School prepares you for nothing but a huge debt.
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              Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
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              • Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                I do. The first two years tech, or community college should be mandatory and free. After that you're on your own. Right now High School prepares you for nothing but a huge debt.
                What about trades? Include them in CC?
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                4 kids
                5 grandsons (BCA 7/09, CJA 5/14, JDL 8/14, JFL 6/16, PJL 7/18)
                1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

                ”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
                - Benjamin Franklin

                Banned from the St. Lawrence University Facebook page - March 2016 (But I got better).

                I want to live forever. So far, so good.

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                • Originally posted by joecct View Post
                  What about trades? Include them in CC?
                  Definitely. Don't quite a few trades already go through CC?
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                  • Originally posted by joecct View Post
                    What about trades? Include them in CC?
                    Absolutely.
                    **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                    Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                    Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                    • Re: 115th Congress - Fantastik! Try to remember we vote in November.

                      CC also has to cull the herd. If you want to be an engineer and flub the courses, you have to be directed somewhere else.

                      Way way back when, there was this thing called the Kuder Aptitude Test that was given in HS. For me, it was dead on.

                      Trouble was I went with choice #4 (Math) instead of #2 (Accounting).

                      Give that to HS students and save everyone a lot of grief and wasted time and $$
                      CCT '77 & '78
                      4 kids
                      5 grandsons (BCA 7/09, CJA 5/14, JDL 8/14, JFL 6/16, PJL 7/18)
                      1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

                      ”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
                      - Benjamin Franklin

                      Banned from the St. Lawrence University Facebook page - March 2016 (But I got better).

                      I want to live forever. So far, so good.

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                        Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                        I do. The first two years tech, or community college should be mandatory and free. After that you're on your own. Right now High School prepares you for nothing but a huge debt.
                        trade school or 2 year community college should be part of "free" public education.

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                          Originally posted by BassAle View Post
                          trade school or 2 year community college should be part of "free" public education.
                          My high school would allow students to take college courses at a local public college or university if they signed up for it. Very few people ever did that, but the majority were the guys who went to the local tech college, getting a free head start on the automotive repair courses. I can only recall two people who went to local colleges/universities for classical liberal arts education. Students at that time were limited to two courses per term.
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                          • Re: 115th Congress - Fantastik! Try to remember we vote in November.

                            Originally posted by joecct View Post
                            CC also has to cull the herd. If you want to be an engineer and flub the courses, you have to be directed somewhere else.

                            Way way back when, there was this thing called the Kuder Aptitude Test that was given in HS. For me, it was dead on.

                            Trouble was I went with choice #4 (Math) instead of #2 (Accounting).

                            Give that to HS students and save everyone a lot of grief and wasted time and $$
                            I couldn't agree more.
                            **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                            Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                            Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                            • Re: 115th Congress - Fantastik! Try to remember we vote in November.

                              Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                              My high school would allow students to take college courses at a local public college or university if they signed up for it. Very few people ever did that, but the majority were the guys who went to the local tech college, getting a free head start on the automotive repair courses. I can only recall two people who went to local colleges/universities for classical liberal arts education. Students at that time were limited to two courses per term.
                              Exactly. By the time each of our three girls enrolled at the U of M, they already had at least 1.5 years worth of college credits completed, free of charge, all courtesy of the local high school program coupled with the local community college. That was a lot of money that we saved.
                              That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.

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                                Originally posted by SJHovey View Post
                                Exactly. By the time each of our three girls enrolled at the U of M, they already had at least 1.5 years worth of college credits completed, free of charge, all courtesy of the local high school program coupled with the local community college. That was a lot of money that we saved.
                                I have three girls also who spent a good deal of their last HS years at a local junior college. They were not able to transfer many credits to the colleges they attended (just as they were able to claim only a few AP credits), but it was still very good for them. The junior college classes weren't rigorous, but it got them into a different environment and I think it significantly reduced senioritis for them.

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