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  • Re: UVM 2018 Offseason - A Punch to the Gutt

    Originally posted by Vermont Ref View Post
    How on earth then would he be admitted to UVM? UVM standards are quite high. Must be more to the story.
    Is it possibly that he did not make grades first semester and was ruled academic ineligible so he could not compete in second semester but still attended school and got his grades up but decided to leave? I would not be so sure about saying the standards for hockey players are so high many are good in the classroom but plenty are not and they have had a fair share of players who barely get by to keep playing! Either way not sure to expect much on ice performance but hopefully a change is good for the young man I believe in second chances if they show they won't repeat them! Jake Fallon got one and was a decent player for the Cats to pick one from recent memory

    also heard some summer gossip of a big list of possible Sneddon replacements being passed around has anyone seen this list or know what on it?

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      Originally posted by pokecheckguy2 View Post
      also heard some summer gossip of a big list of possible Sneddon replacements being passed around has anyone seen this list or know what on it?
      A list passed around by whom? Is he leaving? With an contract extension last winter, it would seem odd that UVM would have created such a list. Maybe this is just fake news, did it come by tweet from DC?

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      • Re: UVM 2018 Offseason - A Punch to the Gutt

        Originally posted by Vermont Ref View Post
        A list passed around by whom? Is he leaving? With an contract extension last winter, it would seem odd that UVM would have created such a list. Maybe this is just fake news, did it come by tweet from DC?
        If it's the list I'm thinking of, it's been circulated by fans.

        The extension was technically agreed to in the summer and last year was technically Year 1 if I'm not mistaken, they just didn't announce it til the winter, which raises a million questions
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        • Re: UVM 2018 Offseason - A Punch to the Gutt

          only past along what I know heard it from a fellow fan at a golf outing over the weekend! Lisa is right it did sound like fans making one but i did not get a clear idea but thought it was some interesting stuff to pass along I would like to see whats on it ...lets hope there were no more mystery years added on this summer to his contract!

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          • Re: UVM 2018 Offseason - A Punch to the Gutt

            Originally posted by pokecheckguy2 View Post
            only past along what I know heard it from a fellow fan at a golf outing over the weekend! Lisa is right it did sound like fans making one but i did not get a clear idea but thought it was some interesting stuff to pass along I would like to see whats on it ...lets hope there were no more mystery years added on this summer to his contract!
            The contract goes through 2019-2020. What use is a replacement list generated by fans. I have a list for the US presidents replacement, but so what. Everyone can speculate, I choose to be optimistic and hope for a turnaround. A couple players stepping up could mean the difference.

            The more negative people are on this forum will just continue to drive good recruits away. There still is no place better than Gutterson to watch a game. That being said, I'm extremely disappointed that the "potential" renovated rink will keep the same lousy seating. That is not going to enhance the fan experience.

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            • Re: UVM 2018 Offseason - A Punch to the Gutt

              Originally posted by Vermont Ref View Post
              The contract goes through 2019-2020. What use is a replacement list generated by fans. I have a list for the US presidents replacement, but so what. Everyone can speculate, I choose to be optimistic and hope for a turnaround. A couple players stepping up could mean the difference.

              The more negative people are on this forum will just continue to drive good recruits away. There still is no place better than Gutterson to watch a game. That being said, I'm extremely disappointed that the "potential" renovated rink will keep the same lousy seating. That is not going to enhance the fan experience.
              Yes this is true only speculation but would be interesting to read! I must kindly disagree with what you say about negative people drivng recruits away that is very much a silly statement sir! You say in one breath that the fans having a say on who should replace the coach is useless but then make it sound like we have the power to make recruits come? No sir that is down to the coaching staff and their actions over the past few years NOT any of us! if there are recruits reading this shouldnt they do what you just said and say this is only fan talk? Also it is in the job duties of Sneddon to bring these players and build a culture of succes whereh they will succeeed and his results not our talking about it is what is responsble for that!! We have a right to express ourselves and i find it so very humorous how many people here believe it is the duty of the fan to support so blindly..you mention politics is that not what we say the people who support the current leader do and that it is a bad thing but when it comes to UVM hockey we all are supposed to just believe its all okay when the evidence show it is not?
              I too would love the optimisim and should you reference the past here I believed last season and did not come to be I will hope yes but I will not believe as much of course I would like the team to do great but I cannot put faith in that and last season was the final straw i have stopped my support in the form of paying for tickets and i was not alone and have not been for a while! they are offering discounts to recent grads now because they cannot fill the seats so so much for the fan experience for a empty rink when the basketball team is going to start getting the support unless hockey turns it around...lose your top scorer late in the season with many unprovens out side a few players I will remain a skeptic as I do not sense there will be a change for the better but yes I always HOPE there will be.....something some of these fellow fans don't get about their other fans!!!

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              • Re: UVM 2018 Offseason - A Punch to the Gutt

                Originally posted by pokecheckguy2 View Post
                Yes this is true only speculation but would be interesting to read! I must kindly disagree with what you say about negative people drivng recruits away that is very much a silly statement sir! You say in one breath that the fans having a say on who should replace the coach is useless but then make it sound like we have the power to make recruits come? No sir that is down to the coaching staff and their actions over the past few years NOT any of us! if there are recruits reading this shouldnt they do what you just said and say this is only fan talk? Also it is in the job duties of Sneddon to bring these players and build a culture of succes whereh they will succeeed and his results not our talking about it is what is responsble for that!! We have a right to express ourselves and i find it so very humorous how many people here believe it is the duty of the fan to support so blindly..you mention politics is that not what we say the people who support the current leader do and that it is a bad thing but when it comes to UVM hockey we all are supposed to just believe its all okay when the evidence show it is not?
                I too would love the optimisim and should you reference the past here I believed last season and did not come to be I will hope yes but I will not believe as much of course I would like the team to do great but I cannot put faith in that and last season was the final straw i have stopped my support in the form of paying for tickets and i was not alone and have not been for a while! they are offering discounts to recent grads now because they cannot fill the seats so so much for the fan experience for a empty rink when the basketball team is going to start getting the support unless hockey turns it around...lose your top scorer late in the season with many unprovens out side a few players I will remain a skeptic as I do not sense there will be a change for the better but yes I always HOPE there will be.....something some of these fellow fans don't get about their other fans!!!
                I'm actually optimistic about UVM hockey this year....UVM women's hockey, that is.

                With this team I'm keeping my hopes low and my expectations lower so if they succeed somehow it's a pleasant surprise
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                • Re: UVM 2018 Offseason - A Punch to the Gutt

                  Incoming freshmen are being revealed on Twitter. Will have my preview post out tonight.

                  IMO this is a group of low-ceiling high-floor kind of guys. Long provides some nice size on the blueline which has in two years gone from a weakness to a strength, Comeau and DeRoche are coming off big years (although I'd put more stock in Comeau's as it was against better competition), Cipollone and Petrillo were good in prep/HS hockey (useless fun fact about me: I used to speed skate at the rink where Petrillo played high school hockey) and nothing special in the USHL, but I'm reserving judgement til I actually see them live
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                  • Re: UVM 2018 Offseason - A Punch to the Gutt

                    Originally posted by TovarishchLisa View Post
                    Incoming freshmen are being revealed on Twitter. Will have my preview post out tonight.
                    BOOM

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                    • Re: UVM 2018 Offseason - A Punch to the Gutt

                      Gonna take a stab at lines predictions - I tend to be horrible with these so take it with a pinch of salt

                      Alvaro-Coughlin-Esposito
                      Dzhioshvili-Misley-Puffer
                      Hamre-Lodermeier-O'Neil
                      Kaufman/Cowans-Comeau/Cipollone-Fréchette/DeRoche

                      reasoning: Coughlin was primarily the 2C last year so I bumped him up a line. Lodermeier fits a third line role so we leave him there and stash Misley on the 2nd line. Dzhioshvili will be healthy so I think he'll be better this season and Puffer is always on that second line. Hamre on Lodermeier's wing makes sense for a third line as he can score and agitate, and while I'm not the biggest fan of O'Neil that's where he was usually stashed last year. Fourth line's a crapshoot, just run with the hot hand but rotate enough that guys aren't sitting in the press box for months.

                      Massie - O'Donnell
                      Thomas/Long - Grant
                      Evers - Moriarty/Kelly/Petrillo

                      Reasoning: Basically the same as last year as Phillips was the only blueline departure. That top pairing is almost always together, so it's basically playing musical chairs on the bottom 4 to get guys playing time.

                      Lekkas
                      Harmon
                      Beck

                      Reasoning: Predictable BUT I do think Lekkas should get some more rest this year. Having two stylistically different goalies can be very effective in a sport that's largely driven by 2-game sets; look at the Hoffman/Santaguida tandem that was so good for us a few years back. Harmon is better positionally but Lekkas has superior athleticism
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                      • Re: UVM 2018 Offseason - A Punch to the Gutt

                        Newbie numbers:

                        Carter Long #2
                        Andrew Petrillo #3
                        Nic Hamre #12
                        Joey Cipollone #13
                        Johnny DeRoche #19
                        Dallas Comeau #29
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                          https://uvmathletics.com/news/2018/8...ce-cowans.aspx

                          Article by sophomore forward Ace Cowans on his summer service trip to Guatemala
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                          • Re: UVM 2018 Offseason - A Punch to the Gutt

                            Originally posted by TovarishchLisa View Post
                            Mark Cheremeta decommitted from UVM and will go to BU this fall, Jeff Cox says it's the first of a few de-commits coming.

                            Think this is Wallack departure fallout.
                            A second one has decommitted, forward Zach Okabe has committed to St. Cloud State. This one stings a lot, he showed a ton of promise in the AJHL and IIRC was the league Rookie of the Year.
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                            • Originally posted by TovarishchLisa View Post
                              A second one has decommitted, forward Zach Okabe has committed to St. Cloud State. This one stings a lot, he showed a ton of promise in the AJHL and IIRC was the league Rookie of the Year.
                              "It was mainly because I was real close to (associate head) coach Kyle Wallack and he decided to leave the program," Okabe said of Wallack, who left on June 25 to become the first head coach of the Albertus Magnus College men's hockey team in Connecticut. "Me and my parents and my advisers talked about it and decided to explore other options

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                              • Originally posted by VTALUM View Post
                                "It was mainly because I was real close to (associate head) coach Kyle Wallack and he decided to leave the program," Okabe said of Wallack, who left on June 25 to become the first head coach of the Albertus Magnus College men's hockey team in Connecticut. "Me and my parents and my advisers talked about it and decided to explore other options
                                https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.sctimes.com/amp/963795002

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