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  • Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Guns, Guns, And More Guns

    Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
    I love the willingness to do a complete mind shift in order to problem solve. Its a total relic.

    Former Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens : Repeal the Second Amendment

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ent/461672002/
    I think the point, though, is we don't need to repeal the 2nd to have solid gun control. Real gun control is completely compatible with a non-sociopathic interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, which is basically anything pre-Heller. All we need is a long enough string of Democratic presidents to appoint a SCOTUS to overrule Heller the way they overruled Dred Scott, Plessy, and Lochner (and the way they will eventually overrule McCutcheon).
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    • Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Guns, Guns, And More Guns

      Originally posted by Kepler View Post
      I think the point, though, is we don't need to repeal the 2nd to have solid gun control. Real gun control is completely compatible with a non-sociopathic interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, which is basically anything pre-Heller. All we need is a long enough string of Democratic presidents to appoint a SCOTUS to overrule Heller the way they overruled Dred Scott, Plessy, and Lochner (and the way they will eventually overrule McCutcheon).
      Nobody seems to realize that the gun control measures that have been put in place on a federal level were found legal by the SCOTUS.

      Including the recent "assault weapons" ban- who many thought was a terrible law because it was so vague.

      Again, pretty much all of the ideas are similar to all of the legal restrictions put on the rest of the amendments. If you are limited to a 5 round magazine that can only empty that in 5 seconds, you STILL have a gun.

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      • Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Guns, Guns, And More Guns

        Originally posted by burd View Post
        Not USSR: ATF, DHS, FBI. And if not them, ISIS. If you're not ready for them, that's on you, baby.
        ATF.
        Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.

        Sounds like a convenience store.
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        • Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Guns, Guns, And More Guns

          Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
          ATF.
          Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.

          Sounds like a convenience store.
          It does.

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          • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
            I think the point, though, is we don't need to repeal the 2nd to have solid gun control. Real gun control is completely compatible with a non-sociopathic interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, which is basically anything pre-Heller. All we need is a long enough string of Democratic presidents to appoint a SCOTUS to overrule Heller the way they overruled Dred Scott, Plessy, and Lochner (and the way they will eventually overrule McCutcheon).
            Repealing the Second Amendment just makes things a lot easier. It’s the hill that the NRA and the ammosexuals fight on, so let’s get rid of it.
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            • Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Guns, Guns, And More Guns

              "For all those who believe that schools are under siege like never before, it is instructive to take a statistical road trip back in time. ... Over the past quarter-century, on average about 10 students are slain in school shootings annually.

              Compare the school fatality rate with the more than 100 school-age children accidentally killed each year riding their bikes or walking to school. Congress might be too timid to pass gun legislation to protect children, but how about a national bicycle helmet law for minors? Half of the states do not require them. There is no NRA — National Riding Association — opposing that.
              " -- James Alan Fox, Lipman Professor of Criminology, Law and Public Policy at Northeastern University, in USA Today, Feb 19, 2018
              https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...umn/349380002/
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              • Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Guns, Guns, And More Guns

                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                I think the point, though, is we don't need to repeal the 2nd to have solid gun control. Real gun control is completely compatible with a non-sociopathic interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, which is basically anything pre-Heller. All we need is a long enough string of Democratic presidents to appoint a SCOTUS to overrule Heller the way they overruled Dred Scott, Plessy, and Lochner (and the way they will eventually overrule McCutcheon).
                Interesting thought, though. I wonder if an effort to repeal the 2nd would be divisive in the way the passage of the 13th was.

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                • Originally posted by alfablue View Post
                  Nobody seems to realize that the gun control measures that have been put in place on a federal level were found legal by the SCOTUS.

                  Including the recent "assault weapons" ban- who many thought was a terrible law because it was so vague.

                  Again, pretty much all of the ideas are similar to all of the legal restrictions put on the rest of the amendments. If you are limited to a 5 round magazine that can only empty that in 5 seconds, you STILL have a gun.
                  Would you grandfather existing guns/mags?
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                  • Originally posted by Jimjamesak View Post
                    Repealing the Second Amendment just makes things a lot easier. It’s the hill that the NRA and the ammosexuals fight on, so let’s get rid of it.
                    Can you ever get 2/3 of the Congress, a signature from the President and 2/3 of the States?

                    I prefer to change the culture rather than change the fouundation.
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                    • Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Guns, Guns, And More Guns

                      Originally posted by joecct View Post
                      I prefer to change the culture rather than change the fouundation.
                      Bahahahahahaha. Please tell me you forgot the emoji indicating some sort of joke in this???

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                      • Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Guns, Guns, And More Guns

                        Originally posted by joecct View Post
                        Can you ever get 2/3 of the Congress, a signature from the President and 2/3 of the States?
                        Um, 2/3 of Congrees and 3/4 of the States.
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                        • Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Guns, Guns, And More Guns

                          Originally posted by burd View Post
                          Interesting thought, though. I wonder if an effort to repeal the 2nd would be divisive in the way the passage of the 13th was.
                          The only good thing about a national movement to repeal the 2nd would be that the serious nutters -- the 0.1% who unironically believe all the crap that the NRA and InfoWars peddle -- would get their Ted Kaczynski on and go out guns a-blazing. It might be worth it just to flush them out.
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                          • Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Guns, Guns, And More Guns

                            Originally posted by Drew S. View Post
                            Would you grandfather existing guns/mags?
                            No. why should we? If they are not legal, there's no reason to keep them on the street.

                            I'd start with a buy back program, at least.

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                            • Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Guns, Guns, And More Guns

                              Originally posted by joecct View Post
                              Can you ever get 2/3 of the Congress, a signature from the President and 2/3 of the States?

                              I prefer to change the culture rather than change the fouundation.
                              The culture that you and people like you have set up in the last 40 years is EXACTLY why it needs to be done. The whole of the gun "system" (owners, lobby, makers, ect) have shown that they are not capable of handling the responsibility of guns. You say a lot of words, and pretend that you care, but we are in this position thanks to you guys.

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                              • Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Guns, Guns, And More Guns

                                So we should just stick our heads in the sand and pretend that all of these mass shootings didn't happen?

                                How ignorant are you????

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