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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenthoven View Post
    This guy was talking specifically about MN, and IIRC it was not households, it was permits/etc, so actual individuals.
    The household data is very shaky. I believe it is cited because there isnít much more to go on. Demographics have changed so much I donít think you can get much out of it. If you look at permit data from different states they have gone way up in the last 10 years.

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    Re: 0 Days Since Last Shooting: Guns, Guns, And More Guns

    Nothing is going to happen on guns until people vote on that issue, and do it en masse.

    Currently elected officials have no reason to move on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    Didnít they do this after Newtown? I think this might be old news and theyíre trying to get a little publicity out of it.
    If you actually read anything you would know that was a temporary ban after Sandy Hook so no it is not old news. Get that from the same source you got your "the kids and parents arent being genuine about their feelings on gun control" BS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    If you actually read anything you would know that was a temporary ban after Sandy Hook so no it is not old news. Get that from the same source you got your "the kids and parents arent being genuine about their feelings on gun control" BS?
    I knew there was a ban, didnít realize it was temporary. Apologies to anyone I may have upset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    Didnít they do this after Newtown? I think this might be old news and theyíre trying to get a little publicity out of it.
    they did stop selling assault style weapons in Dick's after Sandy Hook but the continued to sell them in their Field & Stream Shops. They are pulling them from Field & Stream Shop now, in addition to calling for a complete ban. I thought the no sales to those under 21 was new policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Handyman View Post
    If you actually read anything you would know that was a temporary ban after Sandy Hook so no it is not old news. Get that from the same source you got your "the kids and parents arent being genuine about their feelings on gun control" BS?
    I don't think Dicks has sold AR style weapons since Sandy Hook. They did continue to sell them in their Field & Stream Shop subsidiary, which has far fewer locations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    Didn’t they do this after Newtown? I think this might be old news and they’re trying to get a little publicity out of it.
    They did. They stopped selling AR-15s in Dick's and moved all sales to Field & Stream stores. They obviously ended that embargo. The CEO this time said he's done with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenthoven View Post
    This guy was talking specifically about MN, and IIRC it was not households, it was permits/etc, so actual individuals.
    Perhaps. Would you say there are some 'I'm not coming out of my bunker' types freaking out about the uptick in mass shootings? I'd say the 0.7% of Hennepin county residents signing up for conceal permits is surprisingly low in that context.

    Problem with increases in the use of conceal permits is that the presence of guns puts everyone in danger. This as evident by this study discussing their presence at home:

    Those persons with guns in the home were at greater risk than those without guns in the home of dying from a homicide in the home (adjusted odds ratio = 1.9, 95% confidence interval: 1.1, 3.4). They were also at greater risk of dying from a firearm homicide, but risk varied by age and whether the person was living with others at the time of death. The risk of dying from a suicide in the home was greater for males in homes with guns than for males without guns in the home (adjusted odds ratio = 10.4, 95% confidence interval: 5.8, 18.9). Persons with guns in the home were also more likely to have died from suicide committed with a firearm than from one committed by using a different method (adjusted odds ratio = 31.1, 95% confidence interval: 19.5, 49.6).

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    45% more people believe we should ban firearms from all workplace locations than those who don't (50% vs. 37%). 95% more people believe we should ban firearms from all schools and universities than those who don't (60% vs. 31%).

    A majority advocates 'requiring all gun buyers demonstrate a "genuine need" for a gun, such as a law enforcement job or hunting'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BassAle View Post
    I don't think Dicks has sold AR style weapons since Sandy Hook. They did continue to sell them in their Field & Stream Shop subsidiary, which has far fewer locations.
    Article I read said the ban was only temporary in 2012 and I found nothing to contradict that but either way it is a technicality since F&S still did. Mea culpa if I chose to read the wrong source (I think it was ABC News)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JF_Gophers View Post
    Nothing is going to happen on guns until people vote on that issue, and do it en masse.

    Currently elected officials have no reason to move on this.
    Gun Control has to become a more coercive public pressure group than I Need Gunz Cuz Of My Withered Non-functioning Dick. The day we do that this problem is solved. Make NRA support and pro-NRA votes a death penalty for Members. Take the NRA Playbook and turn it on its head.

    c.f., Reproductive Rights > I Need To Control Women's Bodies Cuz Of My Withered Non-functioning Dick and Demilitarizing Cops > I Need to Murder Blacks Cuz Of My Withered Non-functioning Dick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    Gun Control has to become a more coercive public pressure group than I Need Gunz Cuz Of My Withered Non-functioning Dick. The day we do that this problem is solved. Make NRA support and pro-NRA votes a death penalty for Members. Take the NRA Playbook and turn it on its head.

    c.f., Reproductive Rights > I Need To Control Women's Bodies Cuz Of My Withered Non-functioning Dick and Demilitarizing Cops > I Need to Murder Blacks Cuz Of My Withered Non-functioning Dick.
    I think the problem you will run into is that the hardcore anti-gun crowd mostly live in states that already have Dems in power. This issue might be the one thing that gives republicans a chance in November.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    I think the problem you will run into is that the hardcore anti-gun crowd mostly live in states that already have Dems in power. This issue might be the one thing that gives republicans a chance in November.
    The "hardcore anti-gun crowd," a.k.a. sane people, is growing. The fondlers are getting more and more wacky, but they're also getting smaller and smaller.

    I am sure the deep south and the sister wife mountain west will always be gun country. But the rest of the country is pretty much sick of all the murder. This may well become an issue like slavery, with the knucks gradually being frozen out first regionally and then eventually losing it all by overreach and insanity.

    Hopefully we clean this cesspool with a lot less violence.

    Or, you know, a lot more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    The hardcore anti-gun crowd is growing.
    Is it growing in the right places?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    I think the problem you will run into is that the hardcore anti-gun crowd mostly live in states that already have Dems in power. This issue might be the one thing that gives republicans a chance in November.
    i do think the issue of gun control will drive turn out on the right. This could really solidify "leans republican" or "tossup" seats in favor of Republicans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    Gun Control has to become a more coercive public pressure group than I Need Gunz Cuz Of My Withered Non-functioning Dick. .
    So, I know a guy--his dick functions but is maybe just a little bit withered. Is this a BB gun or maybe .22 kind of guy?

    Just asking about this guy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by burd View Post
    So, I know a guy--his dick functions but is maybe just a little bit withered. Is this a BB gun or maybe .22 kind of guy?

    Just asking about this guy.
    If you know how his dick functions I'm thinking you know enough to answer that question, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    Is it growing in the right places?
    It's growing everywhere. If nothing else, there are mothers who give a sh-t about their kids everywhere. The olde religion is dying, as they all do when they become obsolete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    If you know how his dick functions I'm thinking you know enough to answer that question, too.
    Not a real good way out of that one, is there?

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    http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/dalt...call/708623182

    Not much for details yet, but a teacher is in custody at a Dalton, Georgia high school after reports of shots fired in the school. Sounds like no injuries, but this whole "give the teachers gunzzz" business is off to a blazing start.

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