Page 15 of 23 FirstFirst ... 567891011121314151617181920212223 LastLast
Results 281 to 300 of 442

Thread: Travel Part 3: Destination Unknown

  1. #281
    Lucia Apologist
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Minnesota
    Posts
    25,574

    Re: Travel Part 3: Destination Unknown

    So I have an amazing story. Hereís the semi tl;dr version.

    Flight cancelled. Story above. Get stuck in a sh-t hotel. Have an ok meal but work ďdecidedĒ to pay for a couple scotches at the hotel. So back to a 6/10.

    Wake up at 430. Flight gets delayed. Twice. 8/10. Get over Paris and circle for 30. 8.75/10.

    Canít find gate because CDG sucks as labeling. 9/10. Flight delayed twice. Again. 9.25/10.

    Get to car rental and their systems are fubar. 9/10 (they were awesome so I was laughing a lot). Still get out of there when my tour was supposed to start.

    Race at breakneck speed from Aberdeen to Dufftown. 7/10. Lovely drive. The speed limits are seriously for your safety FYI.

    Get to my B&B and my host hears Iím looking to go on a tour. She drives me in her personal car to get to the final regular tour of the day. 4/10.

    Talk to front desk and the boss gets me latched onto my tour in the exclusive warehouse (the aroma may be literally intoxicating). So Iím thrilled. Then we get to do a four-person tasting. And we get to blend our own whiskey and bottle it. I canít even remember my problems at this point.

    I get up to the shop and after five minutes the tour guide walks in and says, ďcome with me.Ē Iím almost giddy.

    I get a private tour of the distillery. He tells me Iíve come so far and had a rough flight so he personally walks me through.

    Iím at a loss for words at how well Iíve been treated in Scotland. Not a single person has been anything short of wonderful.

  2. #282
    there's a good buck in that racket.
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Posts
    39,868

    Re: Travel Part 3: Destination Unknown

    Scotland is rather neat, indeed.

  3. #283
    Capt
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    I'm on a boat/TPAFL
    Posts
    12,369

    Re: Travel Part 3: Destination Unknown

    Glad things ended up working out for you, dx. Heck, sounds like it worked out BETTER than originally expected, in hindsight.

  4. #284
    Lucia Apologist
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Minnesota
    Posts
    25,574

    Re: Travel Part 3: Destination Unknown

    Thanks!

    I really think youíre right. I need to take a deep breath more often. Things will work out.

  5. #285
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Oct 2000
    Location
    Wisconsin
    Posts
    7,593

    Re: Travel Part 3: Destination Unknown

    Quote Originally Posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    Thanks!

    I really think youíre right. I need to take a deep breath more often. Things will work out.
    Really glad it's going so well now. It will probably change your memory of the whole trip.

  6. #286
    Armed bigblue_dl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    God's Country
    Posts
    32,540

    Re: Travel Part 3: Destination Unknown

    Well, I'm not too surprised. I have experienced the same kind of friendliness and hospitality the 2 times I've been to Scotland. The Scottish are great people, and really one of the main reasons I am still itching to go back there.
    Having a clear conscience just means you have a bad memory or you had a boring weekend.

    RIP - Kirby

  7. #287
    Veteran leswp1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    29,754

    Re: Travel Part 3: Destination Unknown

    Quote Originally Posted by bigblue_dl View Post
    Well, I'm not too surprised. I have experienced the same kind of friendliness and hospitality the 2 times I've been to Scotland. The Scottish are great people, and really one of the main reasons I am still itching to go back there.
    This. Wish airfare was like it was a few yrs ago. We have family in Aberdeenshire there and I would love to move there. Only drawback is with climate change their weather has sig changed in the last 10 yrs. The gulf stream shifted when the ice cap diminished and changed the weather patterns. They are consistently having more snow, way later and waaaaaay more rain (I wouldn't have thought that was possible!).

  8. #288

    Join Date
    Nov 1999
    Location
    Further on down the road
    Posts
    60,339

    Re: Travel Part 3: Destination Unknown

    Quote Originally Posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
    So I have an amazing story. Here’s the semi tl;dr version.

    Flight cancelled. Story above. Get stuck in a sh-t hotel. Have an ok meal but work “decided” to pay for a couple scotches at the hotel. So back to a 6/10.

    Wake up at 430. Flight gets delayed. Twice. 8/10. Get over Paris and circle for 30. 8.75/10.

    Can’t find gate because CDG sucks as labeling. 9/10. Flight delayed twice. Again. 9.25/10.

    Get to car rental and their systems are fubar. 9/10 (they were awesome so I was laughing a lot). Still get out of there when my tour was supposed to start.

    Race at breakneck speed from Aberdeen to Dufftown. 7/10. Lovely drive. The speed limits are seriously for your safety FYI.

    Get to my B&B and my host hears I’m looking to go on a tour. She drives me in her personal car to get to the final regular tour of the day. 4/10.

    Talk to front desk and the boss gets me latched onto my tour in the exclusive warehouse (the aroma may be literally intoxicating). So I’m thrilled. Then we get to do a four-person tasting. And we get to blend our own whiskey and bottle it. I can’t even remember my problems at this point.

    I get up to the shop and after five minutes the tour guide walks in and says, “come with me.” I’m almost giddy.

    I get a private tour of the distillery. He tells me I’ve come so far and had a rough flight so he personally walks me through.

    I’m at a loss for words at how well I’ve been treated in Scotland. Not a single person has been anything short of wonderful.
    My general impression of people in other countries is that they are kind. Americans are basically the as-sholes of the planet. Once you leave here you realize that almost everywhere else people will treat you as a person, not as a business asset.

    The rich in other countries are also as-sholes, so maybe it's just that all Americans are spoiled twats. The coming 200-year long Depression could not happen to a nicer bunch.
    Last edited by Kepler; 06-11-2018 at 05:01 PM.
    It's a book of our true stories
    True stories that can't be denied
    It's more than true it actually happened
    We're coming rougher every time

    Cornell University
    NCAA Champion 1967, 1970
    ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
    Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018

  9. #289
    I got nothing Slap Shot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2001
    Location
    Clark Freeport Zone, Philippines
    Posts
    29,992

    Re: Travel Part 3: Destination Unknown

    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    My general impression of people in other countries is that they are kind. Americans are basically the as-sholes of the planet. Once you leave here you realize that almost everywhere else people will treat you as a person, not as a business asset..
    I couldn't disagree more and if you were to ask most foreigners they would tell you the same thing. On the whole Americans are viewed as very outgoing, friendly and upbeat according to many Europeans, Koreans and Japanese for example and except for the, "Murica!" herpaderps they feel the same way when they travel here.

    Most foreigners have also acted with kindness the majority of places I've gone as a traveler. However, when located more permanently Brits can be downright c**ks**kers, Koreans extremely arrogant and cold, Russians and Italians loud, drunk and obnoxious, etc.

    I believe you find the average American an uneducated, racist lout compared with the rest of the world and while a lot of Americans do need to, "get out more" so to speak (of course it's a hell of a lot easier to go from London to Prague than from Raleigh to Paris) you haven't experienced racism until you go to Europe, SE Asia or the Middle East. Hell even in places like Mexico, Thailand and the Philippines the lighter your skin the better. And in Europe it's not just about nationalism there's a very unhealthy attitude there towards blacks that I wouldn't have imagined so 20+ years ago.

  10. #290
    Lucia Apologist
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Minnesota
    Posts
    25,574

    Re: Travel Part 3: Destination Unknown

    Yeah, I saw some pretty blatant racism at my missed flight hotel.

    A darker-skinned woman asked for a water to be charged to her hotel room. The waitressí tone of voice was standoffish and she couldnít allow it without her husband (whose name the room was in) and the room key.

    About 20 minutes later, an older white lady asked for a water and without question she was given water and allowed to put it on her room without a key or her husband. The waitress was very nice and used a light tone of voice.

    And itís not like either had been hanging around the restaurant for a long time so they were recognizable. Both had essentially just checked in and stopped by he restaurant.

    Pretty sure the waitresses were all Russian after hearing them talk to each other.

  11. #291
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jun 2002
    Location
    Minneapolis
    Posts
    2,731
    Quote Originally Posted by Slap Shot View Post
    I couldn't disagree more and if you were to ask most foreigners they would tell you the same thing. On the whole Americans are viewed as very outgoing, friendly and upbeat according to many Europeans, Koreans and Japanese for example and except for the, "Murica!" herpaderps they feel the same way when they travel here.

    Most foreigners have also acted with kindness the majority of places I've gone as a traveler. However, when located more permanently Brits can be downright c**ks**kers, Koreans extremely arrogant and cold, Russians and Italians loud, drunk and obnoxious, etc.

    I believe you find the average American an uneducated, racist lout compared with the rest of the world and while a lot of Americans do need to, "get out more" so to speak (of course it's a hell of a lot easier to go from London to Prague than from Raleigh to Paris) you haven't experienced racism until you go to Europe, SE Asia or the Middle East. Hell even in places like Mexico, Thailand and the Philippines the lighter your skin the better. And in Europe it's not just about nationalism there's a very unhealthy attitude there towards blacks that I wouldn't have imagined so 20+ years ago.
    So very true.

  12. #292
    Still upright
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    SE Michigan
    Posts
    6,466

    Re: Travel Part 3: Destination Unknown

    Quote Originally Posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
    So very true.
    My experience is that almost everywhere people are the same. They have family, they have the same issues as everyone else.
    Out in society though things do change a bit. In Russia and in some mid eastern countries, the truth is not valued as it is in the west. So people are often telling you something that does not turn out to be true. its' kind of like they don't want the blame so they lie to cover up that it's their fault. The consequences of being blamed is huge so if there is a screw up, don't expect anyone to own up to it.

    Quite the opposite, They are real good at accusing someone else of doing exactly what it is they did. Again it seems trying to deflect blame.
    But from a tourist point of view, it's mostly all the same pretty much everywhere. I'm sure there is racism but honestly, I haven't experienced it or witnessed it.
    MTU: Three time NCAA champions.

    It never get's easier, you just go faster. -Greg Lemond

  13. #293

    Join Date
    Nov 1999
    Location
    Further on down the road
    Posts
    60,339

    Re: Travel Part 3: Destination Unknown

    Quote Originally Posted by Slap Shot View Post
    I couldn't disagree more and if you were to ask most foreigners they would tell you the same thing. On the whole Americans are viewed as very outgoing, friendly and upbeat according to many Europeans, Koreans and Japanese for example and except for the, "Murica!" herpaderps they feel the same way when they travel here.

    Most foreigners have also acted with kindness the majority of places I've gone as a traveler. However, when located more permanently Brits can be downright c**ks**kers, Koreans extremely arrogant and cold, Russians and Italians loud, drunk and obnoxious, etc.

    I believe you find the average American an uneducated, racist lout compared with the rest of the world and while a lot of Americans do need to, "get out more" so to speak (of course it's a hell of a lot easier to go from London to Prague than from Raleigh to Paris) you haven't experienced racism until you go to Europe, SE Asia or the Middle East. Hell even in places like Mexico, Thailand and the Philippines the lighter your skin the better. And in Europe it's not just about nationalism there's a very unhealthy attitude there towards blacks that I wouldn't have imagined so 20+ years ago.
    I wasn't talking about derpism at all. That would not even figure in, since derps don't travel and foreigners visiting America don't visit the derps unless it's to use the bathroom.

    The issue is our aggressiveness and, more, our thousand dollar stare. Americans have been in a consumerist pressure cooker for a century and it shows -- the meat has gone grey and flavorless. Places where that culture of abuse hasn't progressed quite so far are a lot friendlier and the people still have a smidgen of soul.
    It's a book of our true stories
    True stories that can't be denied
    It's more than true it actually happened
    We're coming rougher every time

    Cornell University
    NCAA Champion 1967, 1970
    ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
    Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018

  14. #294
    Veteran leswp1's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    29,754

    Re: Travel Part 3: Destination Unknown

    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    I wasn't talking about derpism at all. That would not even figure in, since derps don't travel and foreigners visiting America don't visit the derps unless it's to use the bathroom.

    The issue is our aggressiveness and, more, our thousand dollar stare. Americans have been in a consumerist pressure cooker for a century and it shows -- the meat has gone grey and flavorless. Places where that culture of abuse hasn't progressed quite so far are a lot friendlier and the people still have a smidgen of soul.
    When I was a kid and lived overseas I could spot an American a million miles away, without even hearing their voice. Hasn't changed much in all the yrs I have traveled. The general culture is to feel entitled and expect people to please them. They paid for it so they should get what ever they want ad being brash, obnoxious is the way to get it. There is an edge to it. They do not feel the need to fit in. People from other places may have expectations, assumptions but they are usually more polite when they demand what they want. Not sure how to describe it but many Americans don't have the same etiquette as other countries. It may be that the people from the other countries know the expected 'dance'. Not sure. I only know we stick out for the most part

  15. #295
    Lucia Apologist
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Location
    Minnesota
    Posts
    25,574

    Re: Travel Part 3: Destination Unknown

    I was happy to find out people here thought I was European. Many of the vendors I talked to came up holding German or Dutch brochures and most would start speaking to me in German. Iíd apologize and ask if they spoke English in really poor German.

    ďOh, English. Youíre from America?Ē

    Made me happy every time it happened. Glad I could fit in so well. They could have been blowing smoke up my azz, but I doubt they care if I think they thought I wasnít American.

    The only way I stick out was my tennis shoes when Iím out after work, but even then, thatís becoming commonplace.

  16. #296

    Join Date
    Nov 1999
    Location
    Further on down the road
    Posts
    60,339

    Re: Travel Part 3: Destination Unknown

    Quote Originally Posted by leswp1 View Post
    When I was a kid and lived overseas I could spot an American a million miles away, without even hearing their voice. Hasn't changed much in all the yrs I have traveled. The general culture is to feel entitled and expect people to please them. They paid for it so they should get what ever they want ad being brash, obnoxious is the way to get it. There is an edge to it. They do not feel the need to fit in. People from other places may have expectations, assumptions but they are usually more polite when they demand what they want. Not sure how to describe it but many Americans don't have the same etiquette as other countries. It may be that the people from the other countries know the expected 'dance'. Not sure. I only know we stick out for the most part
    I think we stick out because we're boring. We're talking about the sh-t we buy or the sh-t we see on our screens. We have no ability to be in human contact because our corporate masters have beaten it out of us with the constant hammering of advertising through every orifice for our entire lives.

    We're the least human people on Earth. We're ambulatory purchasing kiosks.

    Imagine America if the teevee turned off one day. Our entire population would go into toxic shock.
    Last edited by Kepler; 06-13-2018 at 01:34 PM.
    It's a book of our true stories
    True stories that can't be denied
    It's more than true it actually happened
    We're coming rougher every time

    Cornell University
    NCAA Champion 1967, 1970
    ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
    Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018

  17. #297
    Very Un-Dude
    Join Date
    Apr 2001
    Location
    Hockey Mecca
    Posts
    26,655

    Re: Travel Part 3: Destination Unknown

    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    I think we stick out because we're boring. We're talking about the sh-t we buy or the sh-t we see on our screens. We have no ability to be in human contact because our corporate masters have beaten it out of us with the constant hammering of advertising through every orifice for our entire lives.

    We're the least human people on Earth. We're ambulatory purchasing kiosks.

    Imagine America if the teevee turned off one day. Our entire population would go into toxic shock.
    You must be the life of a party.

    Minnesota's Pride On Ice: 1974, 1976, 1979, 2002 & 2003 NCAA National Champions


    And the preacher said, you know you always have the Lord by your side
    And I was so pleased to be informed of this that I ran
    Twenty red lights in his honor
    Thank you Jesus, thank you Lord

  18. #298
    there's a good buck in that racket.
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Posts
    39,868

    Re: Travel Part 3: Destination Unknown

    Quote Originally Posted by Greyeagle View Post
    You must be the life of a party.
    don't get him started.....
    a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

  19. #299
    I got nothing Slap Shot's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2001
    Location
    Clark Freeport Zone, Philippines
    Posts
    29,992
    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    I wasn't talking about derpism at all. That would not even figure in, since derps don't travel and foreigners visiting America don't visit the derps unless it's to use the bathroom.

    The issue is our aggressiveness and, more, our thousand dollar stare. Americans have been in a consumerist pressure cooker for a century and it shows -- the meat has gone grey and flavorless. Places where that culture of abuse hasn't progressed quite so far are a lot friendlier and the people still have a smidgen of soul.
    We'll agree too disagree. Vehemently. Even elsewhere TV is a mad crutch.

  20. #300

    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    20904/13677/07677/07621
    Posts
    34,996
    Quote Originally Posted by Greyeagle View Post
    You must be the life of a party.
    You know hard it is to find a postable picture of the dinner party in "Fail Safe "?

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •