Page 1 of 17 1234567891011 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 331

Thread: UMaine Black Bears 2017/18, Red dawn

  1. #1
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    871

    UMaine Black Bears 2017/18, Red dawn

    I saw this...

    Tim Gould (Notre Dame Hounds) has committed to the University of Maine for 2019-2020. @MaineIceHockey @TimmyG_3 @ndjrahounds @theSJHL

    6' 183 lbs left shot offensive '00 defenseman from Riverview, NB. Has 29 point in 39 games.

    Was named SJHL defenseman of the week. http://www.notredamehounds.ca/news_article/show/878688

    http://www.notredamehounds.ca/news_a...id=631351-news
    Last edited by BlackI; 02-07-2018 at 01:31 PM.
    "A fate that we deserved? Of course it is what we deserved. We played out there. If we screw up, who's fault is it? I don't blame the referees. I don't blame the other team. It is on us. We don't make any excuses and we don't let anyone else make excuses for us. Ever! Ever! And as long as I am the coach here that's how it's gonna be. And as long as I am the coach here the only thing we will accept is victory! Ties - we don't accept it. Losses - we don't accept it. Victory! Period!" - Red Gendron

  2. #2
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Posts
    573

    Re: UMaine Black Bears 2017/18, Red dawn

    Exciting to get a commitment from a d-man that can score!

  3. #3
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    871

    Re: UMaine Black Bears 2017/18, Red dawn

    Quote Originally Posted by umhockey91 View Post
    Exciting to get a commitment from a d-man that can score!
    I found some highlights in case you want to see...


    "A fate that we deserved? Of course it is what we deserved. We played out there. If we screw up, who's fault is it? I don't blame the referees. I don't blame the other team. It is on us. We don't make any excuses and we don't let anyone else make excuses for us. Ever! Ever! And as long as I am the coach here that's how it's gonna be. And as long as I am the coach here the only thing we will accept is victory! Ties - we don't accept it. Losses - we don't accept it. Victory! Period!" - Red Gendron

  4. #4
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    871

    Re: UMaine Black Bears 2017/18, Red dawn

    Some more highlights from last year on AAA midget team. He is rookie in SJHL this season...

    https://youtu.be/6jcT84or1YU
    "A fate that we deserved? Of course it is what we deserved. We played out there. If we screw up, who's fault is it? I don't blame the referees. I don't blame the other team. It is on us. We don't make any excuses and we don't let anyone else make excuses for us. Ever! Ever! And as long as I am the coach here that's how it's gonna be. And as long as I am the coach here the only thing we will accept is victory! Ties - we don't accept it. Losses - we don't accept it. Victory! Period!" - Red Gendron

  5. #5
    Black Bear since D-2
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Location
    Central New York
    Posts
    3,543

    Re: UMaine Black Bears 2017/18, Red dawn

    Quote Originally Posted by umhockey91 View Post
    Exciting to get a commitment from a d-man that can score!
    Not being facetious here, but I'd much prefer a D-crew that can keep the play in front of it, and not throw careless passes across it's own low-slot, not make bad pinches, etc.

    Maine's glaring weakness is it's D. The 'tending and the forwards are good enough to win most nights... The D is clearly the weak link. The occasional open slappa finding the net is mere frosting on the cake; these guys are called "defensemen" for a reason.

    (Tell ya what: give me 6 "boring, stay-at-home" guys like Mike Lundin on this team, and Maine is squarely in the PWR as we speak.)
    Last edited by Fishman'81; 02-07-2018 at 09:11 PM.

  6. #6
    University of Maine Class of 2020
    Join Date
    Feb 2017
    Posts
    158
    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman'81 View Post
    Not being facetious here, but I'd much prefer a D-crew that can keep the play in front of it, and not throw careless passes across it's own low-slot, not make bad pinches, etc.

    Maine's glaring weakness is it's D. The 'tending and the forwards are good enough to win most nights... The D is clearly the weak link. The occasional open slappa finding the net is mere frosting on the cake; these guys are called "defensemen" for a reason.
    Gotta say, I agree with this. When I saw it was a D we got, I was excited, but now that heís another ďoffensive defensemanĒ it isnít really what the team needs.

  7. #7
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    871

    Re: UMaine Black Bears 2017/18, Red dawn

    Quote Originally Posted by amkirby10 View Post
    Gotta say, I agree with this. When I saw it was a D we got, I was excited, but now that he’s another “offensive defenseman” it isn’t really what the team needs.
    He would come in 19/20 season according to article. That season would need to replace Michel and potentially Holway(if he leaves early). Also, I didn't read anything where it said he is bad in his own end.

    Butala is coming in next season. He seems more defensive defensemen as does Spicer(redshirt).
    "A fate that we deserved? Of course it is what we deserved. We played out there. If we screw up, who's fault is it? I don't blame the referees. I don't blame the other team. It is on us. We don't make any excuses and we don't let anyone else make excuses for us. Ever! Ever! And as long as I am the coach here that's how it's gonna be. And as long as I am the coach here the only thing we will accept is victory! Ties - we don't accept it. Losses - we don't accept it. Victory! Period!" - Red Gendron

  8. #8
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Mass.
    Posts
    3,883
    Quote Originally Posted by BlackI View Post
    He would come in 19/20 season according to article. That season would need to replace Michel and potentially Holway(if he leaves early). Also, I didn't read anything where it said he is bad in his own end.

    Butala is coming in next season. He seems more defensive defensemen as does Spicer(redshirt).
    What happens with Spicer, Herner, and Moran? I would think one or two of them arenít around next year.

  9. #9
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    871

    Re: UMaine Black Bears 2017/18, Red dawn

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    What happens with Spicer, Herner, and Moran? I would think one or two of them arenít around next year.
    I don't know what will happen. My suggestion would be - compete.
    "A fate that we deserved? Of course it is what we deserved. We played out there. If we screw up, who's fault is it? I don't blame the referees. I don't blame the other team. It is on us. We don't make any excuses and we don't let anyone else make excuses for us. Ever! Ever! And as long as I am the coach here that's how it's gonna be. And as long as I am the coach here the only thing we will accept is victory! Ties - we don't accept it. Losses - we don't accept it. Victory! Period!" - Red Gendron

  10. #10
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    871

    Re: UMaine Black Bears 2017/18, Red dawn

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman'81 View Post
    Not being facetious here, but I'd much prefer a D-crew that can keep the play in front of it, and not throw careless passes across it's own low-slot, not make bad pinches, etc.

    Maine's glaring weakness is it's D. The 'tending and the forwards are good enough to win most nights... The D is clearly the weak link. The occasional open slappa finding the net is mere frosting on the cake; these guys are called "defensemen" for a reason.

    (Tell ya what: give me 6 "boring, stay-at-home" guys like Mike Lundin on this team, and Maine is squarely in the PWR as we speak.)
    You mean the senior that was second in scoring on the team by a defensemen and had the worst plus minus rating on the team for a defensemen.

    Can you find a better example?
    "A fate that we deserved? Of course it is what we deserved. We played out there. If we screw up, who's fault is it? I don't blame the referees. I don't blame the other team. It is on us. We don't make any excuses and we don't let anyone else make excuses for us. Ever! Ever! And as long as I am the coach here that's how it's gonna be. And as long as I am the coach here the only thing we will accept is victory! Ties - we don't accept it. Losses - we don't accept it. Victory! Period!" - Red Gendron

  11. #11
    Black Bear since D-2
    Join Date
    Dec 2001
    Location
    Central New York
    Posts
    3,543

    Re: UMaine Black Bears 2017/18, Red dawn

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackI View Post
    You mean the senior that was second in scoring on the team by a defensemen and had the worst plus minus rating on the team for a defensemen.

    Can you find a better example?
    Plus-minus is so over-rated as to be almost meaningless... Did you ever see him play?

  12. #12
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    871

    Re: UMaine Black Bears 2017/18, Red dawn

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman'81 View Post
    Plus-minus is so over-rated as to be almost meaningless... Did you ever see him play?
    Of course. If you want an example of boring but solid defensively then in that same era was Travis Ramsey. He was always near the top of defensemen on his team in +/- rating. You would think a converted forward would be more offensive, but he wasnt. Just steady solid defensemen.

    Much better example for the point you were trying to make.
    "A fate that we deserved? Of course it is what we deserved. We played out there. If we screw up, who's fault is it? I don't blame the referees. I don't blame the other team. It is on us. We don't make any excuses and we don't let anyone else make excuses for us. Ever! Ever! And as long as I am the coach here that's how it's gonna be. And as long as I am the coach here the only thing we will accept is victory! Ties - we don't accept it. Losses - we don't accept it. Victory! Period!" - Red Gendron

  13. #13
    There was no joy in Orono.
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    The Dark Side
    Posts
    2,719

    Re: UMaine Black Bears 2017/18, Red dawn

    Lol at anybody who thinks Mike Lundin wasn't good defensively

    Maine Hockey: I want to believe
    43-21-4 (.662) in games I attended over 4 years as a student
    104-47-14 (.669) in that time
    3x FROZEN FOUR

    10-20-2 in games I've attended since. (1-2-1 under Red)

  14. #14
    Wind up workin' in a gas station walrus's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2000
    Location
    St Alphonzos pancake breakfast
    Posts
    34,309

    Re: UMaine Black Bears 2017/18, Red dawn

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    What happens with Spicer, Herner, and Moran? I would think one or two of them arenít around next year.
    Herner ain't playing unless he magically got faster. Haven't seen the other 2

    Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
    I swear there ain't no heaven but I pray there ain't no hell.

    Maine Hockey Love it or Leave it

  15. #15
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Dec 2013
    Location
    Maine
    Posts
    277

    Re: UMaine Black Bears 2017/18, Red dawn

    I'll take 18 skaters who can play in all three zones any day over a one dimensional player (unless his name is Gretzky)... Also Important for everyone to remember that although D is our weak point it got a lot better this year with incoming freshman and freshman improve over their tenure. The youth movement in Orono is something to be proud of, but as pointed out by many people on this forum not to be satisfied with. We can still be better and will get better!!
    As for Gould, you don't get to be as sought after as he without being able to play defense. His offensive prowess comes from PP ability. Current player his skill set is most similar to his Holway.
    As for roster questions, I would recommend checking the Roster Projection Table at the link in my signature, which includes primary source information, not personal opinion. Highly likely we are watching Michel's last few games in a Maine sweater. Holway is likely sticking around for another year pending unforeseen roster developments in Red Wings organization. I am keeping an eye on Moran's situation. Not sure what scholarship (academic/athletic) he has been offered if any. If academic you may see him stick around a la Sam Becker.

  16. #16
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    871

    Re: UMaine Black Bears 2017/18, Red dawn

    Quote Originally Posted by BoSox3066 View Post
    Lol at anybody who thinks Mike Lundin wasn't good defensively
    I didn't say that. But he said he wanted 6 boring at home types. Lundin was not a boring at home type. Not in college he wasnt.
    "A fate that we deserved? Of course it is what we deserved. We played out there. If we screw up, who's fault is it? I don't blame the referees. I don't blame the other team. It is on us. We don't make any excuses and we don't let anyone else make excuses for us. Ever! Ever! And as long as I am the coach here that's how it's gonna be. And as long as I am the coach here the only thing we will accept is victory! Ties - we don't accept it. Losses - we don't accept it. Victory! Period!" - Red Gendron

  17. #17
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Location
    Mass.
    Posts
    3,883
    Quote Originally Posted by Bhall44 View Post
    I'll take 18 skaters who can play in all three zones any day over a one dimensional player (unless his name is Gretzky)... Also Important for everyone to remember that although D is our weak point it got a lot better this year with incoming freshman and freshman improve over their tenure. The youth movement in Orono is something to be proud of, but as pointed out by many people on this forum not to be satisfied with. We can still be better and will get better!!
    As for Gould, you don't get to be as sought after as he without being able to play defense. His offensive prowess comes from PP ability. Current player his skill set is most similar to his Holway.
    As for roster questions, I would recommend checking the Roster Projection Table at the link in my signature, which includes primary source information, not personal opinion. Highly likely we are watching Michel's last few games in a Maine sweater. Holway is likely sticking around for another year pending unforeseen roster developments in Red Wings organization. I am keeping an eye on Moran's situation. Not sure what scholarship (academic/athletic) he has been offered if any. If academic you may see him stick around a la Sam Becker.
    Would Holway be a free agent in 2019 or 2020? If itís 2019 I could see the wings signing him because of that.

  18. #18
    University of Maine Class of 2020
    Join Date
    Feb 2017
    Posts
    158
    Quote Originally Posted by Bhall44 View Post
    I am keeping an eye on Moran's situation. Not sure what scholarship (academic/athletic) he has been offered if any. If academic you may see him stick around a la Sam Becker.
    I actually knew Jack Moran in my younger years, and unless something has significantly changed, he ainít getting any scholarships for his academic ability.

  19. #19
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Oct 2010
    Posts
    871

    Re: UMaine Black Bears 2017/18, Red dawn

    Swayman named a finalist for Walter Brown award...

    http://www.goblackbears.com/news/201...own-award.aspx

    Quite an accomplishment for this outstanding rookie!
    "A fate that we deserved? Of course it is what we deserved. We played out there. If we screw up, who's fault is it? I don't blame the referees. I don't blame the other team. It is on us. We don't make any excuses and we don't let anyone else make excuses for us. Ever! Ever! And as long as I am the coach here that's how it's gonna be. And as long as I am the coach here the only thing we will accept is victory! Ties - we don't accept it. Losses - we don't accept it. Victory! Period!" - Red Gendron

  20. #20
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Posts
    2,458

    Re: UMaine Black Bears 2017/18, Red dawn

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew S. View Post
    Would Holway be a free agent in 2019 or 2020? If itís 2019 I could see the wings signing him because of that.
    Look for Holway and even Pearson playing there Junior seasons and then signing with Detroit and from there joining there AHL team in Grand Rapids to continue there development with there sights set towards the NHL.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 2 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 2 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •