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    Re: UNH Wildcats 2017/2018 - Umile's Last Stand - The Grand Finale

    Snively let me know when we can connect for the bobblehead/ shirt exchange! Enjoy your time in New Zealand!! Maybe see you if/when we all convene at Libby's if not sooner? My home ice vote seems impossible now; but if we do go to Yukon my husband's robotics team is competing at WPI that same weekend so it's just a short trip down to the XL, if that's where we end up that is.
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    Re: UNH Wildcats 2017/2018 - Umile's Last Stand - The Grand Finale

    Huge crowd last night....and the hockey alums that came to pay tribute to Coach Umile was nothing short of amazing. Definitely the biggest night of the season.

    The 'Cats had a bigger jump in their steps last night after the Friday night debacle, the trouble was UVM was not backing down and was matching UNH in their intensity. Not 100% disappointed with the tie, but as we have all seen many times this season, the W was clearly in their grasp.

    Unless a miracle happens over the next two weeks, I'd say home ice is out of reach at this point. Never thought that we would be behind UMA in the standings this late in the season.
    Move along folks, move along....nothing to see here.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyRef View Post
    Snively let me know when we can connect for the bobblehead/ shirt exchange! Enjoy your time in New Zealand!! Maybe see you if/when we all convene at Libby's if not sooner? My home ice vote seems impossible now; but if we do go to Yukon my husband's robotics team is competing at WPI that same weekend so it's just a short trip down to the XL, if that's where we end up that is.
    Libby's sounds good; thanks again, HR.

    Here is a new contest for everyone to consider entering, especially those out of the running in the other contests. This contest is called the MBPBEWAC (you can figure it out, a tribute to Chuck). Which Wildcat(s) will reach double digit goals scored this season? At the moment there are seven players with 7 or more.
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    A former player commented about the small crowd, lack of enthusiasm. I explained it was the largest, most enthusiastic crowd not only this, but the past few seasons. Sigh.

    Listening to him speak of his relationship with coach, hearing his emotion, seeing it on his face and hearing his annoyance that more people did not come out to honor Coach... THAT's what UNH hockey is all about.
    I will not be out cheered in my own building.

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    I was disappointed in last night's events.
    1. First and foremost, where were the fans? I don't believe the 6000 they listed. And where were the students? It was an embarrassment. Not sure a recruit would have been impressed.
    2. I thought there would have been more alums attending especially from recent years. And I counted only 3 videos (Krog, Bekar, Butler). Where were MM, Bogey, JVR and others? Instead we got the stupid TV and movie clips.
    3. Whose idea was it to give out bobbleheads? Ugh.
    4. To extend my complaints: the Umile photo used on the ticket packet and other places looks like he's smelling a you know what. Who picked that? And one of the ticket photos shows a "99 Championship" with Haydar wearing a "C" on his sweater - sloppy work.
    5. I'll get picky: why did Bertagna stand in the middle for the award photo? The honoree is supposed to be in the middle and if JB and MS don't realize that, the photographer should.
    6. Any positives? It was a class act by UVM to circle around and shake Umile's hand.
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    Re: UNH Wildcats 2017/2018 - Umile's Last Stand - The Grand Finale

    Quote Originally Posted by Darius View Post
    A former player commented about the small crowd, lack of enthusiasm. I explained it was the largest, most enthusiastic crowd not only this, but the past few seasons. Sigh.

    Listening to him speak of his relationship with coach, hearing his emotion, seeing it on his face and hearing his annoyance that more people did not come out to honor Coach... THAT's what UNH hockey is all about.
    This.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snively65 View Post
    Libby's sounds good; thanks again, HR.

    Here is a new contest for everyone to consider entering, especially those out of the running in the other contests. This contest is called the MBPBEWAC (you can figure it out, a tribute to Chuck). Which Wildcat(s) will reach double digit goals scored this season? At the moment there are seven players with 7 or more.
    I'd go with Vela and Nazarian. Seeing how I'm out of the where the 'Cats will play in the post season, not to mention the NRN contest, maybe I have a shot at this one!
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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyRef View Post
    I'd go with Vela and Nazarian. Seeing how I'm out of the where the 'Cats will play in the post season, not to mention the NRN contest, maybe I have a shot at this one!
    Good luck to you and anyone else who dares to enter the Make Believe Phony Baloney Everyone Wins a Contest (apologies to Chuck).

    I am going with McNicholas and Nazarian.

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    Based on recent history, I would not be surprised to see them go with Chris Miller and Matt Dawson...

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    In watching from home due to current lack of mobility, I also was surprised at the smallish crowd.......I agree that it was nice to see so many Alums did return for Umile.......itís hard to compare a packed room in the MUB 35 years ago when we had the tribute for Coach Holtís retirement but Dickie has done all of UNH proud, even his critics.....while we still have no NC while others do, they do not have the same politics of a State Univ. and $$$$ issues that we have.......Umile kept UNH hockey a program weíre all proud of.....we are a family! And yes, THAT is worth more than any piece of metal! I am sorry I couldnít have been there to honor Umile.....he deserves his accolades! Another era of UNH hockey passes the torch.....best of luck Mike and Stewy! Go Cats!

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    Quote Originally Posted by deltabravo62 View Post
    Based on recent history, I would not be surprised to see them go with Chris Miller and Matt Dawson...
    For what? Captains for next season?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyRef View Post
    For what? Captains for next season?
    Yeah, like I said, based on the recent history of our captain selections it would seem about right. Not that I want to see that but guys who are borderline to making the lineup becoming seniors have been the selections of the day recently...

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    Quote Originally Posted by deltabravo62 View Post
    Yeah, like I said, based on the recent history of our captain selections it would seem about right. Not that I want to see that but guys who are borderline to making the lineup becoming seniors have been the selections of the day recently...
    Are we in a new contest? I guess I'm just wondering where this came from lol....If it's Snivelly65's latest, isn't it about who gets into double digits goal wise? Whatever! I think you'd be right if that was it...haha....but I'm going with Vela/Nazarian for C and Assistant C if / when that contest rolls around!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoofer View Post
    while we still have no NC while others do, they do not have the same politics of a State Univ.
    Admissions department!! Just think last night could have been Dick Umile Night with a Johnny Gaudreau UNH jersey retirement ceremony. Sure Paul Pierce and Isiaiah Thomas couldn't share a night but surely Dick and Johnny would!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoofer View Post
    In watching from home due to current lack of mobility, I also was surprised at the smallish crowd.......I agree that it was nice to see so many Alums did return for Umile.......itís hard to compare a packed room in the MUB 35 years ago when we had the tribute for Coach Holtís retirement but Dickie has done all of UNH proud, even his critics.....while we still have no NC while others do, they do not have the same politics of a State Univ. and $$$$ issues that we have.......Umile kept UNH hockey a program weíre all proud of.....we are a family! And yes, THAT is worth more than any piece of metal! I am sorry I couldnít have been there to honor Umile.....he deserves his accolades! Another era of UNH hockey passes the torch.....best of luck Mike and Stewy! Go Cats!
    Nice heartfelt post zoofer...I'm sure many who have followed his career with its many ups, as well as disappointing downs, would agree with you 100% that he is indeed deserving of these accolades. It's all part of the history of the school and a sport we all love so well. Best wishes to you...
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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyRef View Post
    Nice heartfelt post zoofer...I'm sure many who have followed his career with its many ups, as well as disappointing downs, would agree with you 100% that he is indeed deserving of these accolades. It's all part of the history of the school and a sport we all love so well. Best wishes to you...
    I think that he would have been more deserving of accolades had he moved aside 5-6 years ago. Sorry, but these last few years have been a disaster. And, this year is looking like it could end as the worst yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snively65 View Post
    I think that he would have been more deserving of accolades had he moved aside 5-6 years ago. Sorry, but these last few years have been a disaster. And, this year is looking like it could end as the worst yet.
    You guys who have been here for the duration certainly have much you can be proud of...for new fans, maybe not as much. The losses when it counted in the Big Dance linger and that's always going to be the issue I imagine for many. That is understandable. And...I hear you about the past few years; tell me about it; I'm sure I'm in the 'red' when it comes to wins/losses.

    Watching those HE championships/Regional wins on the 'tron last night sure made me yearn for one...here's hoping in the next few years. The torch has been passed, it's time to move on. I am hopeful the new regime receives the support they deserve to bring UNH Hockey back into the forefront of HE and beyond. That is not going to happen overnight.

    That being said i do not regret one bit following this program, the awesome people I've met, and look forward to the future...whatever it holds.
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    Thanks HockeyRef.....🤙🤙 I think you hit the key difference.....for those fans of the last 5-8 years, there isnít much of what made UNH hockey around! Unfortunately, the brain trust in the field house forgot what put UNH on the national stage.......there are many of us that are now hoping that Souza and Stewy can turn that around! Ask yourself how a top recruit would choose Lowell or Providence over the UNH campus that ranks nationally.......if the program gets the true support it needs to compete off the ice, it wonít be long before UNH gets back to those games of national importance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HockeyRef View Post
    You guys who have been here for the duration certainly have much you can be proud of...for new fans, maybe not as much. The losses when it counted in the Big Dance linger and that's always going to be the issue I imagine for many. That is understandable. And...I hear you about the past few years; tell me about it; I'm sure I'm in the 'red' when it comes to wins/losses.

    Watching those HE championships/Regional wins on the 'tron last night sure made me yearn for one...here's hoping in the next few years. The torch has been passed, it's time to move on. I am hopeful the new regime receives the support they deserve to bring UNH Hockey back into the forefront of HE and beyond. That is not going to happen overnight.

    That being said i do not regret one bit following this program, the awesome people I've met, and look forward to the future...whatever it holds.
    I enjoyed reading a lot of the feedback and I'm frankly ambivalent about the events of the last couple of evenings to honor Coach Umile. There were so many good years and great experiences he brought the program through - not the least of which was the transformative construction of the Whittemore Center in the mid-'90s, which only happened when it did because of the upswing in the program that kicked in once Coach had been in charge for a few seasons. In retrospect, I'm sure it was going to happen at some point ... but to those who were not fortunate enough to have experienced those years, it's hard to explain the game-changer that The Whitt was at the time. BU was still playing in WBA, Conte (BC) was always predominantly designed as a basketball arena (as was Mullins in Amherst), and Tsongas was just coming on line a year or so after The Whitt. Places like The Gutt, Alfond and Mathews Arenas, and the North Andover High School Arena are still in place, and The Coffin a/k/a Scheider was only recently renovated. So maybe The Whitt wasn't as inevitable as some of us might think? And maybe Coach deserves more credit for that having happened?

    But the one sentence I highlighted in HR's post just highlights the daunting task that lies before Coach Souza and his staff, as we look ahead to the future of the UNH Hockey program. A lot - LOT - of Coach Umile's goodwill built up over the first 20 or so (give or take) of his career has been squandered in this decade. In fact, there's almost nothing left of it. Everything is in a downward spiral. And even the first couple of years where Coach Souza should enjoy a "honeymoon" period, that's really non-existent. He's already been here for the last three seasons, and those seasons have without question coincidentally (or not) been the longest (arguably only) extended truly down stretch during Coach Umile's 3 decades in charge.

    So I guess my point is, I'm not sure Coach Souza deserves anything more than he works to produce himself. And the early returns have hardly been encouraging. As much as we want to criticize (and even vilify at times) Coach Umile for staying around too long, and (apparently) insisting on having a say on his successor ... it takes two to tango, and to reiterate a point that I think others (including Dan) and myself have been making over and over in recent seasons, Coach Souza knew the deal coming in, and Day One of being head coach will not be September 2018. It was back in June 2015 when he was hired. And if he showed too much deference to his former coach by not putting his imprint on the program sooner ... then shame on him. To revisit a term overused during the offseason ... Coach Souza doesn't get a "mulligan" for the last three seasons. That was supposed to be his springboard. Patience for him and his future staff should be curtailed accordingly. Besides the fact that Coach Umile hand-picked Souza as his successor, I'd be tempted to say that Coach Umile himself arguably is the most aggrieved party for Souza's lack of success on the recruiting trails. If that's not prototypical boomerang UNH ironic "karma", I'm not sure I can think of a more apropos example.

    Final thought, and I'm sure 'Watcher and some of the other long-timers who raised criticisms of the process will have picked up on this already, given the timing of things ... Coach Josh McDaniels just recently walked away from a really good coaching opportunity to stay on as an assistant with his professional "alma mater", so to speak. There was no proclamation or announcement during all the publicity about how the mentor was going to basically open the book to his institutional knowledge and methods to the protťgť that McDaniels was guaranteed diddly squat when the mentor eventually decides to "go fishing". I think his only REAL guarantee is that he'll get the last first interview AND a second interview. Query why this was not the way our esteemed uber-experienced AD played things with Coach Souza in June 2015? Especially after the way the last three seasons have only seen the program wallowing in a deeper state of mediocrity, when the recruiting experts among us were talking about how Borek had the pipeline looking so promising that deep tourney runs were predicted in 2017 and/or 2018?

    The idea that a national search is apparently NOT going to happen here, and that Coach Souza - who frankly has done little over the last three seasons to show he is ready for this HUGE challenge - is just going to walk into the head coach's job, is disappointing. I'm willing to see what decisions are going to be made to fill out his staff, whether Coach Stewart stays, and what comes of some of the interesting candidates' names that have been posted on this thread, or discussed in more discreet places. But the Souza Era will be starting on a short leash, at least from this corner. JMHO.
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    Nicely written Chuck....many valid points to ponder.....I hope youíre wrong in any squandering going on but agree that in todayís game, Souza start 2 years ago havenít been remarkable.....

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