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    Wasn't ridiculous at all unless you're just going off BU fan 84. Lohan did not push Tkachuk into the crease. He skated in on his own and the contact after that from Lohan on Tkachuk was minimal. BU three PPs to two for BC. And BU had one in the OT. NESN didn't show it but it appeared to be a slash away from the play that had no impact on anything. BU was deserving of the win but it having to come in OT had nothing to do with officiating.
    I knew the Greenway goal would be called back as soon as I saw the replay. Tkachuk went into the crease on his own, before the puck was anywhere near there. And it wasn't like it was just the tips of his skates in the crease. He couldn't have been any closer to Woll without touching him than he was. In fact, on the replay, you can see that his head is actually over part of Woll's head at one point (since he so tall, no contact). I don't know the ins and outs of the goalie interference rules, but from an in the crease perspective, the goal should not have counted.

    Now, I do have a big beef with the embellishment call and a smaller beef with the goalie interference call against Greenway. The first one was just a bad call. Greenway went down, hopped right back up. I think the ref was indecisive and maybe thought he shouldn't have called the BC penalty to start with, so made up for it by taking them both. On the goalie interference call, Greenway was definitely bumped into Woll - it was more obvious live than on the slow motion replay, to me at least. Given the game situation, I thought that should not have been called. Greenway needs to be smarter though - when you are 6'5", nobody is going to miss a hard charge to the net, and if you are too rough, there is potential for that to get called.

    I frankly expected a make-up call sooner than halfway through overtime. I didn't see the slash, and it isn't on the broadcast, so hard to tell how hard Hutsko swung his stick as he went down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by defkit View Post
    I knew the Greenway goal would be called back as soon as I saw the replay. Tkachuk went into the crease on his own, before the puck was anywhere near there. And it wasn't like it was just the tips of his skates in the crease. He couldn't have been any closer to Woll without touching him than he was. In fact, on the replay, you can see that his head is actually over part of Woll's head at one point (since he so tall, no contact). I don't know the ins and outs of the goalie interference rules, but from an in the crease perspective, the goal should not have counted.

    Now, I do have a big beef with the embellishment call and a smaller beef with the goalie interference call against Greenway. The first one was just a bad call. Greenway went down, hopped right back up. I think the ref was indecisive and maybe thought he shouldn't have called the BC penalty to start with, so made up for it by taking them both. On the goalie interference call, Greenway was definitely bumped into Woll - it was more obvious live than on the slow motion replay, to me at least. Given the game situation, I thought that should not have been called. Greenway needs to be smarter though - when you are 6'5", nobody is going to miss a hard charge to the net, and if you are too rough, there is potential for that to get called.

    I frankly expected a make-up call sooner than halfway through overtime. I didn't see the slash, and it isn't on the broadcast, so hard to tell how hard Hutsko swung his stick as he went down.
    It was definitely a slash, but you could legitimately make the argument that it was 'away from the play' (which it was) and didn't have any bearing on it. The Greenway embellishment was a bad call. He toe picked and went down but I suppose it looked in real time as he exaggerated the fall. I think that's why he jumped right up because he knew it looked "bad." But apparently the call had already been made (meaning the ref had pointed at both of them - because if he hadn't nobody would have known what he was "thinking" and he could have changed it and just sent one to the box).

    But, I thought Greenway was a beast last night. He just controlled the puck all night long and they couldn't handle him.

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    Andrew Alberts did a real nice job with the between periods analysis; insightful and articulate. How much TV work has he done? Reycroft was good, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buoldtimer View Post
    Andrew Alberts did a real nice job with the between periods analysis; insightful and articulate. How much TV work has he done? Reycroft was good, too.
    Raycroft has been on a decent amount this season. I haven't seen Alberts this year, but I feel like I saw him once before, a year or two ago. I could definitely be wrong though.
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    Where is the admin? Can't they get rid of all this Chinese crap (or whatever language it is)?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chickod View Post

    But, I thought Greenway was a beast last night. He just controlled the puck all night long and they couldn't handle him.
    I am sure that PC will match up their bigger d-men with him all night. I expect his line to be neutralized (though I certainly hope not), so 1) we need to be sure he and Tkachuk don't take stupid frustration penalties and 2) the second and third line will need to step up again.

    If I had to guess, same line-up as last night, except MacLeod in for Diffley. I suppose he might put Olsson in for Phelps or Chabot since he is a senior, but I don't think that would be a good move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by defkit View Post
    Where is the admin? Can't they get rid of all this Chinese crap (or whatever language it is)?
    defkit, did you hear any "in the nations", last night? I heard one "in the country".
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    Quote Originally Posted by defkit View Post
    I am sure that PC will match up their bigger d-men with him all night. I expect his line to be neutralized (though I certainly hope not), so 1) we need to be sure he and Tkachuk don't take stupid frustration penalties and 2) the second and third line will need to step up again.

    If I had to guess, same line-up as last night, except MacLeod in for Diffley. I suppose he might put Olsson in for Phelps or Chabot since he is a senior, but I don't think that would be a good move.
    Speaking of Diffley, did he take any shifts after he was on for the first BC goal in the opening minute? I didn't notice him afterwards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by defkit View Post
    Where is the admin? Can't they get rid of all this Chinese crap (or whatever language it is)?
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    Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

    Is there any way to stream tonights game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scarlet View Post
    I had absolutely no recollection of any HE games at Conte.
    Why would you, since BU never played a semifinal or championship game there? I also don't think you would have been able to get into Conte for the final in 1990, as I recall that with Maine playing the Massachusetts Department of Public Health restricted attendance to those born before 1957 (i.e, 33 or older). That was why the games were moved from the Garden to campus sites in the first place. Maine's public health department had no issues with the measles outbreak and had no restrictions on attending the BU-Maine game (I remember seeing a mother carrying her infant baby at the game).

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    Quote Originally Posted by buoldtimer View Post
    defkit, did you hear any "in the nations", last night? I heard one "in the country".
    LOL. I haven't watched too much of the broadcast yet, but I did ask Rogie while I was at the game if Caron was working the game, pretty much for that reason.

    Of course, neither BU or BC has too many guys that are among national leaders in anything, so he probably didn't have too many opportunities. Now the NU game, that would be a different story!
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    Speaking of Diffley, did he take any shifts after he was on for the first BC goal in the opening minute? I didn't notice him afterwards.
    I'm pretty sure he had at least one, but very limited for sure. He looked so nervous on that play where he passed it to the wall instead of his d-partner.

    For a guy that played in the NCAA title game as a freshman, you would think he wouldn't be nervous. Maybe he wasn't, just looked it - he hesitated, then made the pass anyway.
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    Is there any way to stream tonights game?
    ESPN3 I think.
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    ESPN3, and they carried both games last night.
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    Re: Boston University 17-18 - thread El Segundo

    I think you have to use NESNgo if you're in the area. ESPN3 gave me a blackout page last night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by defkit View Post
    I'm pretty sure he had at least one, but very limited for sure. He looked so nervous on that play where he passed it to the wall instead of his d-partner.

    For a guy that played in the NCAA title game as a freshman, you would think he wouldn't be nervous. Maybe he wasn't, just looked it - he hesitated, then made the pass anyway.
    Since a brutal game vs. UNH in 2016-17, it seems that he's very nervous handling the puck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chickod View Post
    It was definitely a slash, but you could legitimately make the argument that it was 'away from the play' (which it was) and didn't have any bearing on it.
    My referee friend I sit with had this view on that argument - if you don't make egregious calls away from the play then you're opening the door for *anything* to go on away from the play that has no bearing on it. I didn't see it happen live so I have no idea how egregious it was. But at some level there has to be a bar for things that are called in OT. I don't know if the slash on BC met that bar.

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    If I had to guess, same line-up as last night, except MacLeod in for Diffley. I suppose he might put Olsson in for Phelps or Chabot since he is a senior, but I don't think that would be a good move.
    I too hope to see McLeod in for Diffley, #20 barely skated last night, though we did have Farrance dressed as a the 6/7 D. I can't see Olsson playing. It's unfortunate that as a senior alternate captain he's not getting ice time, but he played his way out of the lineup by being a walking penalty. Curry, Phelps, and Chabot have put in some excellent shifts in the postseason and none deserve to come out of the lineup.
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