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    The #1 goal for Hockey East should be creating and distributing a "Pay Per View" internet package like the NCHC and to a lesser extent, the new WCHA. Why can't or why won't the league get it together? I don't think this question has been definitively answered.
    Some schools subsidize the stream (whether on their own, through a student union, or alumni donations) in order to advertise the product. In person audience doesn't really change all that much as people will find a way to experience the game, even if it's radio. However, when you make the video available to potential recruits, whether live or in archive, it's a great tool for the schools with not so big of a reputation to get their name out there. By forcing pay per view, you give more power to the "haves".
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    Re: ESPN and Hockey East Reach Multi-Year Agreement

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    The #1 goal for Hockey East should be creating and distributing a "Pay Per View" internet package like the NCHC and to a lesser extent, the new WCHA. Why can't or why won't the league get it together? I don't think this question has been definitively answered.
    That sounds like a lot of work. HEA would probably rather just let the schools handle it. Don’t they only have like 4 full time employees?

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    I really enjoyed seeing WI and ND on NBC Sportsnet this afternoon. Too bad it was opposite the AFC Championship game. (Though I did have clicker luck and saw all 3 goals). Hockey East should work to get a few games on the National Hockey Network. #QualityExposure

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    Re: ESPN and Hockey East Reach Multi-Year Agreement

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    The #1 goal for Hockey East should be creating and distributing a "Pay Per View" internet package like the NCHC and to a lesser extent, the new WCHA. Why can't or why won't the league get it together? I don't think this question has been definitively answered.
    I just recently bought into the WCHA tv to watch NMU. I am very pleased with the quality picture on my TV. We get replays and the play by play comes from the local radio station. Cost me 20 bucks to get five games, and I can get every league game streamed for the season for a little over 100.

    For us lesser teams, it's great.
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    I watched the Ivy League Network this year. It was decent.

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    I just recently bought into the WCHA tv to watch NMU. I am very pleased with the quality picture on my TV. We get replays and the play by play comes from the local radio station. Cost me 20 bucks to get five games, and I can get every league game streamed for the season for a little over 100.

    For us lesser teams, it's great.
    WCHA.tv is very, very, very dependent upon the school providing the broadcast. Bemidji used to have the best broadcast before the school cut ties with the local public TV affiliate who'd broadcast their games for years. Mankato has a great broadcast as well. UAH and LSSU ... well, they have a broadcast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfmorris View Post
    I watched the Ivy League Network this year. It was decent.



    WCHA.tv is very, very, very dependent upon the school providing the broadcast. Bemidji used to have the best broadcast before the school cut ties with the local public TV affiliate who'd broadcast their games for years. Mankato has a great broadcast as well. UAH and LSSU ... well, they have a broadcast.

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    Did Bemidji willing cut ties to their local public tv? Bowling Green has been trying to air some games on their own public tv station (owned by BGSU), and run into problems with the league (the way I understand it). They did manage to get 2 games to broadcast, but apparently wanted a lot more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdt1081 View Post
    Did Bemidji willing cut ties to their local public tv? Bowling Green has been trying to air some games on their own public tv station (owned by BGSU), and run into problems with the league (the way I understand it). They did manage to get 2 games to broadcast, but apparently wanted a lot more.
    I do not know why the change was made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Dream No. 2 View Post
    The #1 goal for Hockey East should be creating and distributing a "Pay Per View" internet package like the NCHC and to a lesser extent, the new WCHA. Why can't or why won't the league get it together? I don't think this question has been definitively answered.
    ppv when it’s free?

    Who’d pay for something that’s free?

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    ppv when it’s free?

    Who’d pay for something that’s free?
    There's no such thing as a free lunch. It's just a matter of who bears the responsibility to pay for the service. Some are willing to eat it as a cost of advertising the school, while others want the viewer to pay.

    That does beg the question: With some of the leagues mandating in-period breaks (AHC first whistle after each 5 minutes, ECAC first whistle after 10, don't know about the others), would local corporate establishments be willing to pay money to advertise on these streams to help subsidize the cost? Is that even doable if the production is done "in-house", meaning it's a non-profit doing the cast? Are the ratings even high enough for markets that it'd be worth it to the advertiser?
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    I watched the Ivy League Network this year. It was decent.
    It's getting better, as streaming has been across the board, but there is a huge difference between when they pick up an actual network transmission like Empire vs local yokel feeds of programs that don't put much effort into it (Brown, Yale, and frankly us).
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    It's getting better, as streaming has been across the board, but there is a huge difference between when they pick up an actual network transmission like Empire vs local yokel feeds of programs that don't put much effort into it (Brown, Yale, and frankly us).
    Empire still exists? I thought they went belly up in 2005, and the Sabres games went to MSG.
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    local yokel feeds of programs that don't put much effort into it (Brown, Yale, and frankly us).
    Yale's feed used to be pretty good before the ILDN took over. From what I understand, Yale was gifted money for all the equipment along with seed money to get it off the ground, and they did an exceptional job for a couple of seasons. Then the ILDN comes in and says use your equipment to supply the feed to us. Not sure whether the current production is as good as it was when they were providing it free.
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    Yale's feed used to be pretty good before the ILDN took over. From what I understand, Yale was gifted money for all the equipment along with seed money to get it off the ground, and they did an exceptional job for a couple of seasons. Then the ILDN comes in and says use your equipment to supply the feed to us. Not sure whether the current production is as good as it was when they were providing it free.
    Considering there probably isn't any subsidy, they just decided not to put any more effort into it. Similar to when RPI had a home playoff series a couple years ago, RPI-TV put out a statement about how they would not provide their feed to the ECAC for their PPV pleasure without just compensation, and the ECAC would be required to send someone if they wanted people to pay to watch the stream. So there was some awkward camera setup in the aisle above the student section.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
    There's no such thing as a free lunch. It's just a matter of who bears the responsibility to pay for the service. Some are willing to eat it as a cost of advertising the school, while others want the viewer to pay.

    That does beg the question: With some of the leagues mandating in-period breaks (AHC first whistle after each 5 minutes, ECAC first whistle after 10, don't know about the others), would local corporate establishments be willing to pay money to advertise on these streams to help subsidize the cost? Is that even doable if the production is done "in-house", meaning it's a non-profit doing the cast? Are the ratings even high enough for markets that it'd be worth it to the advertiser?
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    Someone's still paying for it.
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    Did Bemidji willing cut ties to their local public tv? Bowling Green has been trying to air some games on their own public tv station (owned by BGSU), and run into problems with the league (the way I understand it). They did manage to get 2 games to broadcast, but apparently wanted a lot more.
    BSU thinks putting games on TV is hurting attendance.

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    BSU thinks putting games on TV is hurting attendance.
    Our school keeps cashing the check from GCI to air games live or tape delayed, or sometimes not even at all.
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