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    Syracuse Orange-Is it time for a Coaching Change??

    What is happening at Syracuse?
    They are 6-14-2?
    They have lost 6 of their last 7 games, does anyone have any idea what is happening with the team?
    Is there coaching issues?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger! View Post
    What is happening at Syracuse?
    They are 6-14-2?
    They have lost 6 of their last 7 games, does anyone have any idea what is happening with the team?
    Is there coaching issues?
    Sometime before Christmas I had suggested the need for a change on another thread and some people jumped all over me but I know what I'm talking about and it is time for a change. He's a very nice guy but he isn't getting the job done. The school/athletic administration might not care if this program wins though so he might be secure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shelfit View Post
    Sometime before Christmas I had suggested the need for a change on another thread and some people jumped all over me but I know what I'm talking about and it is time for a change. He's a very nice guy but he isn't getting the job done. The school/athletic administration might not care if this program wins though so he might be secure.
    Getting lazy on the scouting department and appears to be riding it out until retirement. Taking too many players from one jr. team and some are not very strong. No big impact players the last few years.

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    Re: Syracuse Orange-Is it time for a Coaching Change??

    I believe this is Flanagan's 10th year, it seems like the program should be further ahead than it is by now. The question is would Syracuse's administration be this patient with the football or basketball teams performance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger! View Post
    I believe this is Flanagan's 10th year, it seems like the program should be further ahead than it is by now. The question is would Syracuse's administration be this patient with the football or basketball teams performance?
    I assume that's a rhetorical question...
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    Re: Syracuse Orange-Is it time for a Coaching Change??

    What are people hearing that is happening at SU? They have now lost 7 of their last 8 games?
    This team has a ton of talent.

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    Re: Syracuse Orange-Is it time for a Coaching Change??

    It seems like there are always two different opinions expressed in threads like these. One is that the coach can't recruit, so he should be replaced. The other is that the team has a ton of talent but isn't winning, so the coach should be replaced.

    So we get two camps that don't agree at all, but wind up in perfect agreement. Every once in a while, somebody speaks out in favor of the coach, and then is accused of being the coach. Eventually the coach is replaced, the team doesn't improve, but nobody ever shows up to concede that maybe the previous coach wasn't that bad after all.

    Personally, I think that most teams these days are pretty well-coached, so even small errors can prove costly to a program. It's not an easy job to go to any of these programs and make a quick impact. What are some of the teams that are on the rise this year? Colgate, Ohio State, Maine, Providence. Search for comments made about the coaches of those teams, and I bet you'll find more negative than positive on this forum. Apparently, teams win because the players are great, and they lose because the coaches aren't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ARM View Post

    So we get two camps that don't agree at all, but wind up in perfect agreement. Every once in a while, somebody speaks out in favor of the coach, and then is accused of being the coach.

    What are some of the teams that are on the rise this year? Colgate, Ohio State, Maine, Providence. Search for comments made about the coaches of those teams, and I bet you'll find more negative than positive on this forum. Apparently, teams win because the players are great, and they lose because the coaches aren't.
    One time I praised Katie King-Crowley as being a very good recruiter.....I'll never make that mistake again....lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARM View Post
    What are some of the teams that are on the rise this year? Colgate, Ohio State, Maine, Providence. Search for comments made about the coaches of those teams, and I bet you'll find more negative than positive on this forum. Apparently, teams win because the players are great, and they lose because the coaches aren't.
    - Colgate - I can't think of a single negative comment about Fargo on this forum - he was great at Elmira and has done wonders at Colgate
    - Ohio State - Minimal negative comments if any about the coach here
    - Maine - Definitely a large number of negative comments about the coaching here including me - quite the turnaround - kudos
    - Providence - Ditto the Main thoughts.

    So 50-50. I think new coaches generally get a pretty fair amount of time to get their stuff together and show progress on the forum. I've been hating on the Brown coach pretty seriously this season, but I think that one is reasonable given the considerable downward spiral since he took over 2 years ago.

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    I think they need a facilities upgrade more than anything else. The rink is well below average and so are the locker rooms/facilities as compared to other women's teams. If you look at recently upgraded schools like Colgate, Penn State and some in process of upgrades like Princeton, its got to be hard to compete on the recruiting trail.

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    Re: Syracuse Orange-Is it time for a Coaching Change??

    So true, I have been to the Tennity Ice Pavilion or as I refer to it as the Tennity Rinky Dinky Rink. Just is not a Division I caliber facility.
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    Re: Syracuse Orange-Is it time for a Coaching Change??

    Cuse is entering the weekend on a 3 game losing streak. The team is much more talented than their current 9-17-2 record indicates.
    After 8 Seasons at Syracuse, Flanagan has a record of 147-158-37 for a 43% winning percentage.
    How much longer will the administration accept this coaching performance?
    The players have to be getting frustrated and deserve better.
    Syracuse is a great school academically, great location to recruit, why has this program under performed?
    Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger! View Post
    Cuse is entering the weekend on a 3 game losing streak. The team is much more talented than their current 9-17-2 record indicates.
    After 8 Seasons at Syracuse, Flanagan has a record of 147-158-37 for a 43% winning percentage.
    How much longer will the administration accept this coaching performance?
    The players have to be getting frustrated and deserve better.
    Syracuse is a great school academically, great location to recruit, why has this program under performed?
    Thoughts?
    Great academic school? No offense to the fine students of Syracuse University but great academics is never what anybody thinks of when they think of Syracuse. Average maybe.

    And in what world is Syracuse a great location to recruit!? Who wants to go to Syracuse, NY? I've spent some time there and it is no prize.

    Flanagan is a decent coach who has done a passable job recruiting to a school that clearly does not care about it's women's college hockey program. They're only there to satisfy the title IX requirements. He make some use of the scholarships in a positive way and lands a few good players now and then. I'm not sure you could really hope for more.

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    Re: Syracuse Orange-Is it time for a Coaching Change??

    Is the clock ticking for a coaching change in Syracuse?

    The Orange finished the year 13-21-2 overall.

    Flanagan's record is 151-162-37 after 8 seasons?

    Do you think the administration expected better results by now?

    No League titles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger! View Post
    Is the clock ticking for a coaching change in Syracuse?

    The Orange finished the year 13-21-2 overall.

    Flanagan's record is 151-162-37 after 8 seasons?

    Do you think the administration expected better results by now?

    No League titles?
    Welcome to the bandwagon. Jumping on a bit late in the season, aren't you?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger! View Post
    Is the clock ticking for a coaching change in Syracuse?

    The Orange finished the year 13-21-2 overall.

    Flanagan's record is 151-162-37 after 8 seasons?

    Do you think the administration expected better results by now?

    No League titles?
    Do you think the administration cares...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russell Jaslow View Post
    Do you think the administration cares...?
    I do not. Just look at the facilities. Not a Div I facility at all and nothing that I have heard of to have a new rink built.
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    Re: Syracuse Orange-Is it time for a Coaching Change??

    You might be surprised to know that Syracuse's budget for ice hockey is 3rd in the Country at $2.3 million a year. Only 1 school reported spending substantially more than Syracuse and that was Wisconsin which has the highest budget at $3.3 million a year.

    After 8 years the results should be much better, you can see the impact a coaching change has made in places like Colgate and other schools. The team has more talent than the results? The team continues to struggle against non-conference opponents after 8 years and this year the team struggled against league opponents as well?

    How much longer will Syracuse be patient with this staff?

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    Re: Syracuse Orange-Is it time for a Coaching Change??

    These results say everything!!

    Time for a change!

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    Re: Syracuse Orange-Is it time for a Coaching Change??

    Quote Originally Posted by HoneyBadger! View Post
    You might be surprised to know that Syracuse's budget for ice hockey is 3rd in the Country at $2.3 million a year. Only 1 school reported spending substantially more than Syracuse and that was Wisconsin which has the highest budget at $3.3 million a year.

    After 8 years the results should be much better, you can see the impact a coaching change has made in places like Colgate and other schools. The team has more talent than the results? The team continues to struggle against non-conference opponents after 8 years and this year the team struggled against league opponents as well?

    How much longer will Syracuse be patient with this staff?
    As told to me "And to think in 2008 the Desrosier's were on an interview in Syracuse for the assistant coaching positions of the Orange when Rick Seeley decided to take the Quinnipiac job. A quick phone call asking them to come back to Potsdam was initiated and the rest is history." PHEW.
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