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    Power rankings making conference play irrelevant

    Boston College ranked lower while it played tougher non-conference than Northeastern and Providence and leads them at top of conference. BC passed over last year when in 3 way title ties over those who finished lower. Bejimdi won it conference title but not playoffs so lower teams made it instead. More weight needed for conference season play. After the tournament winner, the one who finished top of conference should go to the NCAAs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freedomfighter View Post
    Boston College ranked lower while it played tougher non-conference than Northeastern and Providence and leads them at top of conference. BC passed over last year when in 3 way title ties over those who finished lower. Bejimdi won it conference title but not playoffs so lower teams made it instead. More weight needed for conference season play. After the tournament winner, the one who finished top of conference should go to the NCAAs.
    Would that be two additional auto seeds last year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by freedomfighter View Post
    Boston College ranked lower while it played tougher non-conference than Northeastern and Providence and leads them at top of conference. BC passed over last year when in 3 way title ties over those who finished lower. Bejimdi won it conference title but not playoffs so lower teams made it instead. More weight needed for conference season play. After the tournament winner, the one who finished top of conference should go to the NCAAs.
    Even if there was an RS champ auto-bid, BC still would not have gotten in last season, they would have lost the tiebreaker. As far as I know each conference can choose to have their autobid go to either the RS or tournament champ. Thereís no point in having a tournament without an autobid on the line IMO.

    Edit: I donít disagree with the WCHA situation. Maybe that league and AHA should consider using the RS champ instead?
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    Re: Power rankings making conference play irrelevant

    Quote Originally Posted by freedomfighter View Post
    Boston College ranked lower while it played tougher non-conference than Northeastern and Providence and leads them at top of conference. BC passed over last year when in 3 way title ties over those who finished lower. Bejimdi won it conference title but not playoffs so lower teams made it instead. More weight needed for conference season play. After the tournament winner, the one who finished top of conference should go to the NCAAs.
    In the last PairWise before the NCAA tournament, Bemidji finished 2 spots under Michigan Tech and lost the comparison to the Huskies. Are you just advocating the return of the smoky backroom committee? And if so, what's the point of even having a playoff for the WCHA other than the conference trying to make some money from gate receipts?

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    Re: Power rankings making conference play irrelevant

    Quote Originally Posted by freedomfighter View Post
    Boston College ranked lower while it played tougher non-conference than Northeastern and Providence and leads them at top of conference.
    BC's strength of schedule is #19, while PC's is #21, so there is minimal difference in the level of schedules they have played so far this year. NU is #43 but they do have a much better winning percentage.

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    Re: Power rankings making conference play irrelevant

    Make the conference tournies mean something and take just the tournament champions.

    Then seed
    West 1. East 1
    West 2. East 2
    West 3. East 3

    Weds. QF. West 2 v East 3 / East 2 v West 3
    Thusday SF: West 1 v East 2/West 3 | East 1 v West 2/East 3
    Saturday is the final.

    The intensity of the conference finals would double and sell out.

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    Re: Power rankings making conference play irrelevant

    BC was a mediocre team last year at best, who beat bad teams but got dominated by teams of any serious quality. They had a dominating lead in Hockey East and then threw it away by only managing 4 points in February, ended up in third place, and then couldn't make it in via the way they knew they could get in: winning the tournament. Frankly, the two teams who finished behind them in the Hockey East conference standings were superior teams who deserved it more; they had more wins than BC which means they fared better out of conference, and Notre Dame made the Frozen Four.

    BC is just as mediocre this year, having gone 0-5-3 out of conference and dropping most of their conference games against teams of any notable caliber. They're going to have to win the Hockey East tournament to get in, and the way they're playing I can't see how they can manage that.

    Also, why'd it take you until the following January to gripe about last year's NCAA bids?

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    Re: Power rankings making conference play irrelevant

    I really dislike using tournaments to pick the ďbestĒ teams when there are so many regular season games. Like I said in the cafe, it makes sense in football where you have only 12 games and donít even play everyone from your conference. But when itís like hockey you have more than enough games. Tournaments are fun, but for NCAA entry it should be the regular season champs.

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    Re: Power rankings making conference play irrelevant

    I think its ridiculous that Regular Season Champs are ever excluded from the NCAA tourney. But I also understand that the conf tourney's need incentives for teams to want to win and fans to want to care about going to those tourney's, so the conf tourney champs should also get into the NCAA tourney.

    There are what now, 6 conferences? How often do all 6 regular season champs lose in the conf tourney's? Maybe the tourney should be expanded to 18 or 20 teams? Let in both the regular season and conf tourney champs, and that would allow for at least 6 non champs in the tourney every season, if not more. There could literally be 12 non champs get in, although unlikely. On average I would guess 9. How many get in now? 10 non conf tourney champs get in, but how many of those 10 didn't win their conf regular season?

    I think expansion to 18 teams is the only way to do things just right. But I doubt the NCAA cares about such things. Everything is about the money these days.

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