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Originally posted by unofan View PostYou mean...like a city?
Case in point - NYC blackouts.CCT '77 & '78
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Originally posted by joecct View PostAfter 3 days there is nothing left in a city. The stores are empty of fresh food, gas is just about used up. Those that don't have will become jealous of those that do. Civil order will break down and you'll have riots on your hands.
Case in point - NYC blackouts.Code:As of 9/21/10: As of 9/13/10: College Hockey 6 College Football 0 BTHC 4 WCHA FC: 1
Originally posted by SanTropezMay your paint thinner run dry and the fleas of a thousand camels infest your dead deer.Originally posted by bigblue_dlI don't even know how to classify magic vagina smoke babies..Originally posted by KeplerWhen the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
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Originally posted by joecct View PostAfter 3 days there is nothing left in a city. The stores are empty of fresh food, gas is just about used up. Those that don't have will become jealous of those that do. Civil order will break down and you'll have riots on your hands.
Case in point - NYC blackouts.
And you didn't answer, so I'll repeat myself: What is a city if not groups of people coming together to pool their resources and efforts?
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When all is right and good with the world, being within an hour drive of a reasonably sized city is nice. But even that is not really needed any longer in the "Amazon Prime" world we're in (again, that's all is right and good with the world, shipping systems working, dependent).
And in today's interconnected world (where ND has a higher percentage of folks with access to 1GB broadband than 48 other states), the cities are not as advantaged as in the past. Toss in that we're more and more serviced based, many companies are finding it's more effective to be diversified around many mid-metros than concentrated in a large few and they are still as effective and profitable.
However, when ol' Lil' Kim pushes the button on his desk and he goes all EMP on ConUS, I want to be nowhere near any major urban area. If he'd do it right now during this cold snap in the east he'd do major and significant damage to life and property.
Why? Because a well done EMP attack takes out substations and transformers that have two year lead times on delivery. Oh, that's if the factory is up and running. (Remember, EMP, it's not.)
And it's not the lack of food or electricity that'll kill cities in Lil' Kim's wet dream.
It's the lack of fresh water -- to drink, to grow food, to clean, ... to flush.The preceding post may contain trigger words and is not safe-space approved. <-- Virtue signaling.
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Originally posted by The Sicatoka View PostWhen all is right and good with the world, being within an hour drive of a reasonably sized city is nice. But even that is not really needed any longer in the "Amazon Prime" world we're in (again, that's all is right and good with the world, shipping systems working, dependent).
And in today's interconnected world (where ND has a higher percentage of folks with access to 1GB broadband than 48 other states), the cities are not as advantaged as in the past. Toss in that we're more and more serviced based, many companies are finding it's more effective to be diversified around many mid-metros than concentrated in a large few and they are still as effective and profitable.
However, when ol' Lil' Kim pushes the button on his desk and he goes all EMP on ConUS, I want to be nowhere near any major urban area. If he'd do it right now during this cold snap in the east he'd do major and significant damage to life and property.
Why? Because a well done EMP attack takes out substations and transformers that have two year lead times on delivery. Oh, that's if the factory is up and running. (Remember, EMP, it's not.)
And it's not the lack of food or electricity that'll kill cities in Lil' Kim's wet dream.
It's the lack of fresh water -- to drink, to grow food, to clean, ... to flush.
Oh wait, no they're not. The 250 year trend of urbanization continues unfettered. Because people generally prefer to live where there is stuff to do, people to meet, and have a bevy of specialists in all sorts of fields to choose from.
Cities are more advantaged than ever in a service economy.Last edited by unofan; 01-18-2018, 09:10 AM.
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Originally posted by unofan View PostWhich is why rural areas are growing and metropolitan areas are shrinking.
Oh wait, no they're not. The 250 year trend of urbanization continues unfettered.The preceding post may contain trigger words and is not safe-space approved. <-- Virtue signaling.
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Originally posted by unofan View PostBecause people generally prefer to live where there is stuff to do, people to meet, and have a bevy of specialists in all sorts of fields to choose from.
That's why the Omahas, Sioux Falls, Fargos, Bismarcks, Rochester MNs, and Grand Forks, are growing well above pace of other areas. They have amenities of larger cities but without the long commutes and other urban issues.The preceding post may contain trigger words and is not safe-space approved. <-- Virtue signaling.
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Originally posted by The Sicatoka View PostYes. Indeed. But they also prefer lower crime and taxes and a community feeling.
That's why the Omahas, Sioux Falls, Fargos, Bismarcks, Rochester MNs, and Grand Forks, are growing well above pace of other areas. They have amenities of larger cities but without the long commutes and other urban issues.
For the record, here's how I picture you and Joe:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/local.t...1819565879/ampLast edited by unofan; 01-18-2018, 09:35 AM.
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Originally posted by The Sicatoka View PostYes. Indeed. But they also prefer lower crime and taxes and a community feeling.
That's why the Omahas, Sioux Falls, Fargos, Bismarcks, Rochester MNs, and Grand Forks, are growing well above pace of other areas. They have amenities of larger cities but without the long commutes and other urban issues.
Then again you are pushing the EMP BS so you are a full on loonbat anyways."It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
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I love it when you go ad hominem; it says more about you than me.
Omaha isn't bad. Spent a week there last fall.
But MSP ("seven counties") is the zoo to me: fun to visit, wouldn't want to live there.The preceding post may contain trigger words and is not safe-space approved. <-- Virtue signaling.
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Originally posted by The Sicatoka View PostI love it when you go ad hominem; it says more about you than me.
Omaha isn't bad. Spent a week there last fall.
But MSP ("seven counties") is the zoo to me: fun to visit, wouldn't want to live there.
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Originally posted by Handyman View PostYou realize those are cities right? You just argued against your own point.
Then again you are pushing the EMP BS so you are a full on loonbat anyways.
And yeah, I think about security of America's electric grid, be it cyber or EMP or otherwise. Why? It's a soft target and has the most reach (most ouch for the poke) in the US right now. And because I'm tasked with and paid to worry about it. I'll say "Hi" to Mac McLennan and Paul Sukut for you next time I see them.The preceding post may contain trigger words and is not safe-space approved. <-- Virtue signaling.
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Originally posted by unofan View PostWhich is why rural areas are growing and metropolitan areas are shrinking.
Oh wait, no they're not. The 250 year trend of urbanization continues unfettered. Because people generally prefer to live where there is stuff to do, people to meet, and have a bevy of specialists in all sorts of fields to choose from.
Cities are more advantaged than ever in a service economy.
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