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  • Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...

    Originally posted by joecct View Post
    What about a mileage tax?
    There's already a mileage tax.
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    • Originally posted by joecct View Post
      What about a mileage tax? It's hidden, it's collected electronically or on your annual tax bill and it taxes people who use the roads the most.

      The next time your vehicle is checked at an inspection or emissions station, the mileage is recorded and the state sends you a bill due when you file your income tax.

      Or you could attach a monitor to that doo hickey they checks the engine and it sends a signal monthly and you get a monthly road tax bill.
      The rich are supposed to pay for the poor to use the roads.

      That’s only fair
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      • Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...

        Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
        The rich are supposed to pay for the poor to use the roads.

        That’s only fair
        Since the rich most likely got that way by taking advantage of the infrastructure provided to them, it does seem pretty fair. Mookie got one!

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        • Originally posted by joecct View Post
          What about a mileage tax? It's hidden, it's collected electronically or on your annual tax bill and it taxes people who use the roads the most.

          The next time your vehicle is checked at an inspection or emissions station, the mileage is recorded and the state sends you a bill due when you file your income tax.

          Or you could attach a monitor to that doo hickey they checks the engine and it sends a signal monthly and you get a monthly road tax bill.
          $%@& your Mileage Tax plan.

          More rationally:
          -Is this a national tax or state tax?
          - Are each state's taxing at the exact same rate, or are they different rates? Who's responsible for differentiating
          - How are state's without emissions testing administering the tax: tattle-tale or openly charging the user a flat rate and putting the proof they didn't drive that much on the user?
          - Who pays for each tattle-tale, and for it to phone home to report it's statistics?
          - How are roads not funded with State/Federal funding deducted from the tax?
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          • Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...

            I will say that with the continued expansion of electric cars, the gas tax will become meaningless and an alternate source of funding for transportation will need to be found.

            I would be more supportive of an additional tax when license plates are renewed each year. It's less invasive than any mileage tax plan.
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            • Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...

              Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
              ROAD projects where gas using payers are utilizing, right? or is this gas tax paying for other shi... er stuff?
              Hmmm...I would say it pays for roads and rail as they tend to be interdependent (moving both people and goods). If the rail bridge over the highway is failing, does mookie propose to let it fall onto the interstate before any repairs are made?

              Beyond that though, it injects some honesty into the budgetary process. Today Chump is proposing a 1.5T infrastructure program with like $150M of federal dollars backing it up. Ummm..Donald, that ain't gonna work.
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              • Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...

                Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                ROAD projects where gas using payers are utilizing, right? or is this gas tax paying for other shi... er stuff?
                Sure, like Social Security funds are actually used for Social Security. ROTFLMAO.
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                • Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                  Sure, like Social Security funds are actually used for Social Security. ROTFLMAO.
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                  • Originally posted by aparch View Post
                    $%@& your Mileage Tax plan.

                    More rationally:
                    -Is this a national tax or state tax?
                    - Are each state's taxing at the exact same rate, or are they different rates? Who's responsible for differentiating
                    - How are state's without emissions testing administering the tax: tattle-tale or openly charging the user a flat rate and putting the proof they didn't drive that much on the user?
                    - Who pays for each tattle-tale, and for it to phone home to report it's statistics?
                    - How are roads not funded with State/Federal funding deducted from the tax?
                    Like most everything else in the USA - one size or tax does not fit all. I would imagine the tax / mile driven would differ from state to state just like sales and real estate taxes.

                    If the government wants our money, they will figure out a way to get it.
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                    • Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...

                      Originally posted by aparch View Post
                      Oh, Scooby, another passing thought, if tolls are to offset the federal funding, who pays for the installation and maintenance of said toll plazas? Is that cost factored into this Senators thoughts? What about the sale of transponders or stickers, and interoperability between the EZPass network?
                      Pull a Massachusetts and go with electronic gantries.

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                      • Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...

                        Originally posted by aparch View Post
                        - How are roads not funded with State/Federal funding deducted from the tax?
                        Easy: Get more money, legislator gets a pork project like harboring illegals through for either a kickback or some votes, finds they're out of money, asks for more to cover their original ask.

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                        • Originally posted by Rover View Post
                          Hmmm...I would say it pays for roads and rail as they tend to be interdependent (moving both people and goods). If the rail bridge over the highway is failing, does mookie propose to let it fall onto the interstate before any repairs are made?

                          Beyond that though, it injects some honesty into the budgetary process. Today Chump is proposing a 1.5T infrastructure program with like $150M of federal dollars backing it up. Ummm..Donald, that ain't gonna work.
                          That’s where you lose people though. Gas tax was for roads... not for Choo choo
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                          • Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                            Sure, like Social Security funds are actually used for Social Security. ROTFLMAO.
                            How many times mookie has to explain to you it is a transfer tax. No lock box
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                            • Re: The States: Doing Their Own Thing...

                              Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                              That’s where you lose people though. Gas tax was for roads... not for Choo choo
                              Frankly I doubt people have given it that much thought. "Infrastructure" is sufficiently vague and besides one would think the vast majority of dough would go to roads.
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                              • Originally posted by Rover View Post
                                Frankly I doubt people have given it that much thought. "Infrastructure" is sufficiently vague and besides one would think the vast majority of dough would go to roads.
                                Ha!
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