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    All Trappist beers are legit, they can't be called Trappist if they're not. Chimay is solid, and so are most of the other Trappist beers. Most Trappist comes from Belgium, though there are some in The Netherlands, Austria and Massachusetts.

    For years Westvleteren 12 was considered the best beer in the world by many people.

    The real masterpiece of Belgium are Lambics though. Cantillon, 3 Fonteinen, Boon, Tilquin, etc. These are the real best beers you can buy in the world.
    Thanks. I love this, but I'm not sure it's considered legit. It's sure priced like it is, but it's ubiquitous so it may be a McLambic.

    If you give me a Belgian list I'll happily drink my way through it. I've been in hell since the Hops Revolution, and I haven't been much of a fan of sours, either.
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    Thanks. I love this, but I'm not sure it's consider legit. It's sure priced like it is.

    If you give me a Belgian list I'll happily drink my way through it. I've been in hell since the Hops Revolution, and I haven't been much of a fan of sours, either.
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    Are you a wine drinker?
    Not so much. Tannin is TEH DEBIL.

    Basically, I don't like hoppy beers or tannin reds or any whiskeys. Apparently I have the taste buds of a 16-year old girl. Which means there's a 16-year old girl out there with extremely morbid tastes.
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    Not so much. Tannin is TEH DEBIL.

    Basically, I don't like hoppy beers or tannin wines or any whiskeys. Apparently I have the taste buds of a 16-year old girl.
    I ask because Belgian Lambic drinks more like a wine than a beer. Sure, the flavors are a bit different because one is grain, the other grapes, but they really don't taste like a standard beer. Some of them probably get a little too far on the sour side, if you don't like sour beer, but others aren't too bad. If you wanted to try one, I'd start with a Kriek of some kind. Lindemann's is the most easily found, and also the most approachable, but it isn't a true Lambic, since it is sweetened on the back end. Unfortunately, Lambic is tough to just try, since bottles are expensive and hard to find. It isn't something you just give a whirl and dump if you don't like. There should be some on tap on the eastern seaboard, if you go to good beer bars. *cough* Church Key *cough*
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    I ask because Belgian Lambic drinks more like a wine than a beer. Sure, the flavors are a bit different because one is grain, the other grapes, but they really don't taste like a standard beer. Some of them probably get a little too far on the sour side, if you don't like sour beer, but others aren't too bad. If you wanted to try one, I'd start with a Kriek of some kind. Lindemann's is the most easily found, and also the most approachable, but it isn't a true Lambic, since it is sweetened on the back end. Unfortunately, Lambic is tough to just try, since bottles are expensive and hard to find. It isn't something you just give a whirl and dump if you don't like. There should be some on tap on the eastern seaboard, if you go to good beer bars. *cough* Church Key *cough*
    I will give sourness a try if it's part of that more complex "buried in the back of the nunnery next to the Sisters' aborted fetuses" flavor. It's the current Brooklyn hipster gratuitous sours I don't like.

    I had a Belgian Trappist at a DC beer bar that was essentially the beer equivalent of kimchi, and I loved it (after the first sip which was Culture Shock). To call it "earthy" would be an understatement, it was almost "manure"-y. But my god something snapped on after the first couple (unpleasant) sips and it was one of the best beers I have ever had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    I will give sourness a try if it's part of that more complex "buried in the back of the nunnery next to the Sisters' aborted fetuses" flavor. It's the current Brooklyn hipster gratuitous sours I don't like.

    I had a Belgian Trappist at a DC beer bar that was essentially the beer equivalent of kimchi, and I loved it (after the first sip which was Culture Shock). To call it "earthy" would be an understatement, it was almost "manure"-y. But my god something snapped on after the first couple (unpleasant) sips and it was one of the best beers I have ever had.

    tl; dr: I'll do the work if there's something of value at the end of the rainbow.
    A lot of Belgian beers are like that. They smack you in the face at the beginning, but once you realize what you're drinking, after a few sips, they're sublime. Also, some Belgian yeasts tend to present the off-putting ****ty aroma, but that is normal, and it doesn't affect the taste of the beer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigblue_dl View Post
    A lot of Belgian beers are like that. They smack you in the face at the beginning, but once you realize what you're drinking, after a few sips, they're sublime. Also, some Belgian yeasts tend to present the off-putting ****ty aroma, but that is normal, and it doesn't affect the taste of the beer.
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    I'll second Cantillon, even though I'm far from a sour guy. Find the right flavors, and it's more tart than sour. There IS a fine line there. And yes, it does drink more like wine, which I really dislike. Lambics WANT to be wine, but they are still beer.

    My issue with the "sour" category, is that it's too broad right now. It's like saying all stouts are the same. Or all IPAs are the same. They haven't broken "sour" down into individual styles yet. I have found that the red fruits (cherry, raspberry, etc) are more tart and don't have that crap funk taste to them. They are quite enjoyable to me.
    Never really developed a taste for tequila. Kind of hard to understand how you make a drink out of something that sharp, inhospitable. Now, bourbon is easy to understand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenthoven View Post
    I'll second Cantillon, even though I'm far from a sour guy. Find the right flavors, and it's more tart than sour. There IS a fine line there. And yes, it does drink more like wine, which I really dislike. Lambics WANT to be wine, but they are still beer.

    My issue with the "sour" category, is that it's too broad right now. It's like saying all stouts are the same. Or all IPAs are the same. They haven't broken "sour" down into individual styles yet. I have found that the red fruits (cherry, raspberry, etc) are more tart and don't have that crap funk taste to them. They are quite enjoyable to me.
    Yes they have... there are Berliner Weisse, Lambic-Kriek, Lambic-Gueze, other fruited Lambic, Sour Goses, Oud Bruins, Flanders Red, Dark Sours, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigblue_dl View Post
    Yes they have... there are Berliner Weisse, Lambic-Kriek, Lambic-Gueze, other fruited Lambic, Sour Goses, Oud Bruins, Flanders Red, Dark Sours, etc.
    They classify the New Glarus fruit beers as sours. No narrowing of the subject, that I've seen. They are not, IMO. That sorta thing.
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    I'm a fan of Lambics and Belgians as well as some Sours (I like bright and tart). Nothing will touch my love of all things thick and sweet and stout, but I'm learning to broaden my horizons. I am not a fan of "add more hops to the hops" trend that had been on the rise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bostonewe View Post
    I'm a fan of Lambics and Belgians as well as some Sours (I like bright and tart). Nothing will touch my love of all things thick and sweet and stout, but I'm learning to broaden my horizons. I am not a fan of "add more hops to the hops" trend that had been on the rise.
    Ding.

    But NE IPAs..............nomnomom
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    IPAs are driving investment in other kinds of beers. That's the best I can say for them.
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    Re: Drinking Thread: Three Sheets To The Wind

    Quote Originally Posted by Brenthoven View Post
    They classify the New Glarus fruit beers as sours. No narrowing of the subject, that I've seen. They are not, IMO. That sorta thing.
    New Glarus fruit beers are a combination of the actual style "Fruit Beer" and variations on Lambics. The Raspberry Tart is considered a Lambic syle beer (cannot actually be a true Lambic, as those have to come from Belgium). The Serendipity, Strawberry Rhubarb, and Wisconsin Belgian Red are considered "Fruit Beers". None are just plain "Sour".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenthoven View Post
    Ding.

    But NE IPAs..............nomnomom
    NE IPAs are the direct result of the "add more hops to the hops" trend...you realize this right? They're the direct result of massive amounts of dry-hopping, which is the exact process of adding a **** ton of more hops to an already hoppy beer. The IPAs you like are the ones that specifically call for more and more hops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigblue_dl View Post
    NE IPAs are the direct result of the "add more hops to the hops" trend...you realize this right? They're the direct result of massive amounts of dry-hopping, which is the exact process of adding a **** ton of more hops to an already hoppy beer. The IPAs you like are the ones that specifically call for more and more hops.
    And whatever they do to them, it's not drinking shag carpet. THAT'S why I don't like traditional IPAs. It's the WAY they do the hops.
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    Re: Drinking Thread: Three Sheets To The Wind

    A good IPA is somewhat analogous to a good dry red wine. Astringent and usually has a good balance of bitter and sweet with other complex floral notes.

    If you donít get the balance right, itís like playing a piano out of tune.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenthoven View Post
    And whatever they do to them, it's not drinking shag carpet. THAT'S why I don't like traditional IPAs. It's the WAY they do the hops.
    So, it is IPA with LESS hops that you don't care for. Some of the ones you like are some of the hoppiest (not just dry hopped, hops in boil) IPAs around. The sensation that you get is from certain varieties of hops, not from amount. Stay away from Cascade, Centenniel, Amarillo, and other "west coast" IPA hops. If you're in the Citra, Mosaic, Vic Secret, Motueka, Galaxy range, you won't get that same flavor profile, and you will likely enjoy the IPA, even though it is technically super hoppy.
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    Re: Drinking Thread: Three Sheets To The Wind

    I've heard of Panther P!sz, but this is new....

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    Enjoying a nice glass of neat Angel's Envy Finished Rye. This stuff is so ****ing good.
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