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  • #91
    Re: 115th Congress - Still 100% Roy Moore Free

    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    The GOP is gifting us Hispanics. We should be able to make gains among educated, non-Evangelical whites, both female and male.

    We need to be the party of choice among educated, suburban whites throughout the entire country. We are the party that represents the middle class -- we have their backs on economics. And those people vote pocketbook. We should be the default choice of the Bourgeoisie. That means we compromise a lot on guns, to begin with. That's a single issue voter we don't have to exclude. (Genuinely sorry, joe -- women's rights are fundamental, you're on the wrong side of history.)

    Most importantly we should push hard for economic justice and reining in the Plutes. That's the single most healthy thing we can do for the middle class.
    I'm not so sure on hispanics. There are a lot of generalizations made about them that aren't always based on reality. They come from a lot of different places too.

    You're on the right path in your last couple of paragraphs. I might add that the dems should be careful not to be too negative on the country or white people. I think it turns a lot of people off and doesn't offer much in return.
    Originally posted by BobbyBrady
    Crosby probably wouldn't even be on BC's top two lines next year

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Drew S. View Post
      I'm not so sure on hispanics. There are a lot of generalizations made about them that aren't always based on reality. They come from a lot of different places too.

      You're on the right path in your last couple of paragraphs. I might add that the dems should be careful not to be too negative on the country or white people. I think it turns a lot of people off and doesn't offer much in return.
      Says the guy who wants the Dems to become Republicans. We'll be sure to give that advice all the weight it's due.

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      • #93
        Re: 115th Congress - Still 100% Roy Moore Free

        Originally posted by unofan View Post
        Says the guy who wants the Dems to become Republicans. We'll be sure to give that advice all the weight it's due.
        I just want a middle of the road party with decent people running it! It shouldn't be too much to ask for.
        Originally posted by BobbyBrady
        Crosby probably wouldn't even be on BC's top two lines next year

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        • #94
          Re: 115th Congress - Still 100% Roy Moore Free

          Originally posted by Drew S. View Post
          I might add that the dems should be careful not to be too negative on the country or white people. I think it turns a lot of people off and doesn't offer much in return.
          I agree with this. The gratuitous "that's the whites" or "that's white men" barbs from white liberals are stupid college sophomore crap and very counter-productive. I actually really enjoy both my whiteness and my maleness, to say nothing of my straightness which I have found quite diverting. I know exactly what the people who voice those barbs are getting at -- I even agree with it. But 95% of the country just fell off the turnip truck and they REALLY think that when you say "Black Lives Matter" you're saying "kill whitey."

          The left, particularly the young, loves to talk its own lingo and f-ck the public if they don't get it. Well, no, because ya see the public votes.

          And even if, say, you really can't stand somebody, you can still be circumspect. That's why when I debate with Thumpers I'm not actually calling them "Thumpers." Are they? You bet they are. But would addressing them as suh assist me in changing their minds? Nope.

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          • #95
            Re: 115th Congress - Still 100% Roy Moore Free

            Originally posted by Drew S. View Post
            I just want a middle of the road party with decent people running it! It shouldn't be too much to ask for.
            Says a guy who has no idea where the middle is anymore. Anyone who thinks that both parties haven't drifted right the last 20 years hasn't been paying attention. Yeah, there was in 2016 a socialism slant to the election with Bernie and his crybaby voters. However, a fair analysis of Barack Obama's Presidency puts him as a more small "c" conservative than GW Bush. And that means everything is slanted on the "right" side of the scale. 20 years ago Middle is where the entire Democratic Party is so you already have your "middle" party. So, quite whining and vote for the Democratic Party. It's the country's and the world's only hope right now. Don't be Brent. Don't be a duck.
            **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

            Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
            Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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            • #96
              Re: 115th Congress - Still 100% Roy Moore Free

              Originally posted by Drew S. View Post
              I just want a middle of the road party with decent people running it! It shouldn't be too much to ask for.
              If you're asking for middle of the road between the GOP and Dems, you're really just asking for a party that wants to destroy the country a little slower than the current GOP does. If you are asking for a moderate party, you have one already.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Drew S. View Post
                I just want a middle of the road party with decent people running it! It shouldn't be too much to ask for.
                There is one; it's called the Democratic Party. I can't help you if you can't see that, though.

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                • #98
                  Re: 115th Congress - Still 100% Roy Moore Free

                  Originally posted by MaizeRage View Post
                  Meanwhile, Tina Smith is taking Al Franken's seat, and will run for the seat in 2018.
                  Probably bad news. I've got two words for Tina Smith's appointment: Senator Pawlenty.

                  Who knows...but she doesn't seem like the strongest candidate. And at this stage, definitely doesn't seem to match up to the heavy hitters of Emmer, Coleman or TPaw.
                  Go Gophers!

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                  • #99
                    Re: 115th Congress - Still 100% Roy Moore Free

                    Jones win was of course great news. But still a bit worried about one thing. Question remains whether this is the straw that starts to reunite the GOP...and/or lights the fire on doubling down on efforts to fix things for '18 elections and beyond.
                    Go Gophers!

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                    • Re: 115th Congress - Still 100% Roy Moore Free

                      Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
                      Probably bad news. I've got two words for Tina Smith's appointment: Senator Pawlenty.

                      Who knows...but she doesn't seem like the strongest candidate. And at this stage, definitely doesn't seem to match up to the heavy hitters of Emmer, Coleman or TPaw.
                      Yes, let's elect Tim Pawlenty to the Senate. The man that destroyed the budget and the credit rating of Minnesota. Something only Democrats in the State can fix and are willing to fix.
                      **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                      Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                      Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                      • Re: 115th Congress - Still 100% Roy Moore Free

                        Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                        Says a guy who has no idea where the middle is anymore. Anyone who thinks that both parties haven't drifted right the last 20 years hasn't been paying attention. Yeah, there was in 2016 a socialism slant to the election with Bernie and his crybaby voters. However, a fair analysis of Barack Obama's Presidency puts him as a more small "c" conservative than GW Bush. And that means everything is slanted on the "right" side of the scale. 20 years ago Middle is where the entire Democratic Party is so you already have your "middle" party. So, quite whining and vote for the Democratic Party. It's the country's and the world's only hope right now. Don't be Brent. Don't be a duck.
                        You're right(no pun intended.) I was trying to get at more a party that is better able to manage the country than political ideology. There is no excuse for us not to have a balanced budget(at least right now) or be making the proper infrastructure investments. Would the dems do both of those if given the chance? We will likely find out in the next few years.
                        Originally posted by BobbyBrady
                        Crosby probably wouldn't even be on BC's top two lines next year

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                        • Re: 115th Congress - Still 100% Roy Moore Free

                          Catching up on this thread but IDK if this one has been posted: https://***********/JordanUhl/status/940812997831938050

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                          • Re: 115th Congress - Still 100% Roy Moore Free

                            Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                            Before we get too excited white women went 65% for Moore.
                            Black people saved the day basically, something like 87% of black men and 97% of black women.

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                            • Re: 115th Congress - Still 100% Roy Moore Free

                              Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                              How much you wanna bet, after Jones is inaugurated (assuming he is), those women drop the cases against Roy Moore within 48 hours?
                              Umm....what "case" are you referring to? They aren't suing him. They're just calling him a perv.

                              Moving beyond Flaggy's support for pedophilia...

                              Roy Moore IS the modern Republican party. He represents the base, which is why he came so close to winning. Its been funny reading the pundidiots and Beltway Bobs of the media claim that if only the GOP had run a "normal" Republican they would have won. Sorta like every GOP voter is in love with John Kasich types. I mean, get your heads out of your a sses already people. I don't care if that's what they're telling you at DC cocktail parties, but the GOP = Roy Moore.

                              Why this is important, and why Alabama has larger implications is for two reasons. 1) Educated suburban votes, even in Alabama, as they also did in Virginia, have had enough with the GOP. One reason is they're sick of defending lunatics, pervs and all the other closet cases the GOP base keeps throwing up as their nominee. But the other 2) is suburbanite middle class votes are finally realized GOP tax policy is screwing them where the sun don't shine. This is a BIG development. Current tax theft bill is most unpopular legislation in generations. People who would normally vote GOP not on social issues but on economic ones have finally woken up to the fact that they'll be paying more money and watch their parents get their Medicare cut in order to send tax breaks to billionaires. In some exit polls Alabama voters chose health care the dominant issue influencing their vote (directly affected by current tax vote), not the 10 commandments or buggering 14 year olds at the local mall.

                              Finally, lets give some people who I disagree with some credit here. Far from being a have hit both ways weasel, I give Senator Shelby a lot of credit for cutting Moore's nuts off right before the election, stating he's writing in a Republican but in no way will vote for Roy Moore. I will also give credit to Cory Gardner for continuing to insist that Moore was unacceptable even as his party started cozying up to Moore as his poll numbers seemingly (and falsely) improved over the last couple of weeks. One also has to assume some Trump voters from 2016 backed Jones, and kudos to them as well.
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                              • Re: 115th Congress - Still 100% Roy Moore Free

                                Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
                                Probably bad news. I've got two words for Tina Smith's appointment: Senator Pawlenty.

                                Who knows...but she doesn't seem like the strongest candidate. And at this stage, definitely doesn't seem to match up to the heavy hitters of Emmer, Coleman or TPaw.
                                Wait. I thought it was that the appointee could not run for re-election? So you don't want to burn a good candidate.

                                Which of us is confused?
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