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  • #976
    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
    Thing is, she's a really good speaker. Nobody has been able to wrangle the Dems like her in a long, long time.

    But she's what, 80?

    I want to see fresh blood across the board.
    She and Hoyer are both pushing 80. IIRC most of the House D leadership is up there.

    And you're right. She was/is very good at herding cats.
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    • #977
      Re: 115th Congress - Still 100% Roy Moore Free

      Originally posted by joecct View Post
      She and Hoyer are both pushing 80. IIRC most of the House D leadership is up there.
      Just skip everybody over 40. Cut em all off. Make birth after Bucky Dent's homerun the cutoff. And make 65 the mandatory retirement age from now on. If you're going to turn 65 during your term you aren't eligible to run.

      Get rid of the Olds. We don't do anybody any good.
      Last edited by Kepler; 03-02-2018, 01:24 PM.
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      • #978
        Re: 115th Congress - Still 100% Roy Moore Free

        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        Agree. The Republicans skated on Iran-Contra and Cheney's crimes. These guys are a criminal organization and they will continue to be until there's accountability.
        The justice dept. under Obama should've prosecuted a lot of people, obviously Bush/Cheney but the large actors in the financial crisis mostly got off scot free.

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        • #979
          Re: 115th Congress - Still 100% Roy Moore Free

          Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
          The justice dept. under Obama should've prosecuted a lot of people, obviously Bush/Cheney but the large actors in the financial crisis mostly got off scot free.
          I'll be completely honest. I don't want new presidents to start going after their political opponents. It's a very dangerous precedent and I'm not sure we want that and all the baggage that comes with it. Nothing Bush and Cheney did has been shown to be criminal outside of Democratic talking points memos.

          Dump might be the exception here.
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          • #980
            Re: 115th Congress - Still 100% Roy Moore Free

            Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
            I'll be completely honest. I don't want new presidents to start going after their political opponents. It's a very dangerous precedent and I'm not sure we want that and all the baggage that comes with it. Nothing Bush and Cheney did has been shown to be criminal outside of Democratic talking points memos.

            Dump might be the exception here.
            Agree and disagree. In general I don't advocate such prosecutions. Bush/Cheney had good lawyers advising them, and they would appeal all the way to the SCOTUS before complying with the courts which was their right. However to never prosecute anybody of the opposite party for collusion basically gives a blank check for Republican Congresscritters to cover up Russian influence in exchange for large campaign donations. Nunes and Paul Ryan (essentially his boss - Nunes wouldn't have his chairmanship without Ryan's blessing and he can be removed by Ryan) need to be investigated. If they are actively using their position to thwart an enemy's state's attack against the US, they should be charged and tried.

            Regarding Nancy Pelosi, should the Dems win next year not only does she deserve a victory lap for a good career fighting the good fight, but it doesn't hurt to have an experienced strategist in the Age of Trump. Hopefully that'll end in Jan of 2021, which would also be a good time for her to wrap it up. In the meantime, we don't need another Dick Gephardt running the Dems.
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            • #981
              Re: 115th Congress - Still 100% Roy Moore Free

              Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
              I'll be completely honest. I don't want new presidents to start going after their political opponents. It's a very dangerous precedent and I'm not sure we want that and all the baggage that comes with it. Nothing Bush and Cheney did has been shown to be criminal outside of Democratic talking points memos.

              Dump might be the exception here.
              The weed of crime bears bitter fruit.

              I am sympathetic to your concerns. Dump is the exception because he is attacking American values and institutions, and our sovereignty itself, directly. This isn't about politics it's about bringing a criminal to justice. In a world in which the GOP was also sincere they would be part of the movement to indict and convict Dump. Unfortunately they deliberately dropped the ball for selfish, shortsighted reasons.

              The people who conspired against the US are traitors. The fact that they are intertwined with a political party should not protect them. We have parties because we are a democracy; we aren't a democracy because we have parties. We have to protect our system of government. If that means some or even all the members of a particular party are indicted because they have become a criminal organization, then that's what happens.

              The moral is: don't become a criminal organization.
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              • #982
                Re: 115th Congress - Still 100% Roy Moore Free

                Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                I'll be completely honest. I don't want new presidents to start going after their political opponents. It's a very dangerous precedent and I'm not sure we want that and all the baggage that comes with it. Nothing Bush and Cheney did has been shown to be criminal outside of Democratic talking points memos.
                Well in their case it'd be harder to prove but the entire reason we went to Iraq and killed 100's of thousands of civilians was pretty much entirely based on a lie. It wouldn't be prosecuting them for having a different ideology, there's plenty of legitimate justification for it though it's difficult to prove in this instance (not entirely sure how trials work when a ton of classified info is involved).
                Last edited by trixR4kids; 03-02-2018, 04:12 PM.

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                • #983
                  Re: 115th Congress - Still 100% Roy Moore Free

                  I dont want Nancy Pelosi anywhere near Speaker if the House flips.
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                  • #984
                    Re: 115th Congress - Still 100% Roy Moore Free

                    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                    The weed of crime bears bitter fruit.

                    I am sympathetic to your concerns. Dump is the exception because he is attacking American values and institutions, and our sovereignty itself, directly. This isn't about politics it's about bringing a criminal to justice. In a world in which the GOP was also sincere they would be part of the movement to indict and convict Dump. Unfortunately they deliberately dropped the ball for selfish, shortsighted reasons.

                    The people who conspired against the US are traitors. The fact that they are intertwined with a political party should not protect them. We have parties because we are a democracy; we aren't a democracy because we have parties. We have to protect our system of government. If that means some or even all the members of a particular party are indicted because they have become a criminal organization, then that's what happens.

                    The moral is: don't become a criminal organization.
                    Originally posted by Rover View Post
                    Agree and disagree. In general I don't advocate such prosecutions. Bush/Cheney had good lawyers advising them, and they would appeal all the way to the SCOTUS before complying with the courts which was their right. However to never prosecute anybody of the opposite party for collusion basically gives a blank check for Republican Congresscritters to cover up Russian influence in exchange for large campaign donations. Nunes and Paul Ryan (essentially his boss - Nunes wouldn't have his chairmanship without Ryan's blessing and he can be removed by Ryan) need to be investigated. If they are actively using their position to thwart an enemy's state's attack against the US, they should be charged and tried.

                    Regarding Nancy Pelosi, should the Dems win next year not only does she deserve a victory lap for a good career fighting the good fight, but it doesn't hurt to have an experienced strategist in the Age of Trump. Hopefully that'll end in Jan of 2021, which would also be a good time for her to wrap it up. In the meantime, we don't need another Dick Gephardt running the Dems.
                    Yeah, I didn’t mean for it to sound like carte blanche to commit crimes. Especially against the State. As usual, my post was hastily written and not complete.
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                    • #985
                      Re: 115th Congress - Still 100% Roy Moore Free

                      Originally posted by trixR4kids View Post
                      Well in their case it'd be harder to prove but the entire reason we went to Iraq and killed 100's of thousands of civilians was pretty much entirely based on a lie. It wouldn't be prosecuting them for having a different ideology, there's plenty of legitimate justification for it though it's difficult to prove in this instance (not entirely sure how trials work when a ton of classified info is involved).
                      There are very few US statutes you could prosecute them under, if any, for the war. The president has wide-ranging powers granted to him by congress. Especially that President.
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                      Originally posted by bigblue_dl
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                      Originally posted by Kepler
                      When the giraffes start building radio telescopes they can join too.
                      He's probably going to be a superstar but that man has more baggage than North West

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                      • #986
                        Re: 115th Congress - Still 100% Roy Moore Free

                        Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post
                        There are very few US statutes you could prosecute them under, if any, for the war. The president has wide-ranging powers granted to him by congress. Especially that President.
                        The question is did they deliberately mislead Congress by rigging the intelligence. The brief answer is: they did. That's definitely impeachable, it's just a question of whether they could do actual jail time too.

                        Throw in that the war was drawn up years before 9/11 as a business proposal, and I would think there has to be a way for the bereaved to sue Cheney et al for personally benefiting by deliberately going to war under false pretenses.

                        With sh-ts like Cheney it would be really useful to have an actual Final Judgment.
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                        • #987
                          Re: 115th Congress - Still 100% Roy Moore Free

                          Sen. Thad Cochran will resign effective April 1, citing health reasons.

                          Cue Alex Jones, "Democrats are POISONING him!"

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                          • #988
                            Re: 115th Congress - Still 100% Roy Moore Free

                            Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                            Sen. Thad Cochran will resign effective April 1, citing health reasons.

                            Cue Alex Jones, "Democrats are POISONING him!"
                            The moving pillow writes and moves on...

                            Last edited by Kepler; 03-05-2018, 05:41 PM.
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                            • #989
                              Re: 115th Congress - Still 100% Roy Moore Free


                              "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                              -aparch

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                              • #990
                                Re: 115th Congress - Still 100% Roy Moore Free


                                "It's as if the Drumpf Administration is made up of the worst and unfunny parts of the Cleveland Browns, Washington Generals, and the alien Mon-Stars from Space Jam."
                                -aparch

                                "Scenes in "Empire Strikes Back" that take place on the tundra planet Hoth were shot on the present-day site of Ralph Engelstad Arena."
                                -INCH

                                Of course I'm a fan of the Vikings. A sick and demented Masochist of a fan, but a fan none the less.
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