115th Congress - Still 100% Roy Moore Free

[mookie1995]

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I’m honestly surprised if the thing you guys are most infuriated about in this whole mess is that families under the 50k median are getting a tiny little crumb of the giveaway. By far the bulk of the benefits are going to the rich.

families making under 50k are not paying a lot anyhow. so even if you take 100% tax cut of that is isn't going to compare to a cut of any substantial amount for higher incomes.

who will be the first person to rightfully claim that balancing the budget () should start with defense?

[Kepler]

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The rubes aren't lapping it up though. Is there any demographic aside from "country club billionaires" and "hedge fund dudes" who support this tax bill? It can't just be Dems making it the most unpopular piece of legislation in at least the last 30 years.

66% of Republicans support the bill. That will go even higher if it is passed because then it is just points on the scoreboard to them.

It's like Net Neutrality, which Republicans also support because of braindead deflections like "get yer Soros gubbmint outta ma internet!"

The rubes will buy anything with an R stuck on it. They have been trained by 25 years of Fox and Hate Radio to reflexively hate anything D and love everything R, no matter how much it harms the country and even them.

[mookie1995]

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The rubes aren't lapping it up though. Is there any demographic aside from "country club billionaires" and "hedge fund dudes" who support this tax bill? It can't just be Dems making it the most unpopular piece of legislation in at least the last 30 years.

were not the hedgies getting hit with their carried interest being taxed? did that not happen?

[bronconick]

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66% of Republicans support the bill. That will go even higher if it is passed because then it is just points on the scoreboard to them.

It's like Net Neutrality, which Republicans also support because of braindead deflections like "get yer Soros gubbmint outta ma internet!"

The rubes will buy anything with an R stuck on it. They have been trained by 25 years of Fox and Hate Radio to reflexively hate anything D and love everything R, no matter how much it harms the country and even them.

I like that less and less people identify as Republican, meaning that that 66% isn't going to be enough outside of primaries.

[aparch]

It's like Net Neutrality, which Republicans also support because of braindead deflections like "get yer Soros gubbmint outta ma internet!"

I got into a lengthy argument with a friend on Facebook (yeah, yeah, that's like two strikes against my better judgement) because he was so hellbent that this was a good move.

He was adamant that "the internet was just fine twenty years ago, it'll be fine tomorrow." He thinks that the cable co's won't do anything like MEO in Portugal. I fear it's a slippery slope that they were already headed down, and Cable Co's needed to be told to quit being d!cks.

After many failed analogies that he plowed through with his thinking, I finally asked "next are you going to tell me we need to eliminate National Park land because 'It's been weeds and dirt for decades, no one will build a Wal-Mart here ever?"

I haven't gotten a response yet.

[geezer]

It needs to be as awful as it can possibly be

I disagree. To be honest, my surprise is only that Rubio didn’t cave even faster. Those Cubans in Miami must be having kids.

[French Rage]

Re: 115th Congress - Still 100% Roy Moore Free

He was adamant that "the internet was just fine twenty years ago, it'll be fine tomorrow."

It was fine 20 years ago because everyone was following net neutrality then.

[geezer]

families making under 50k are not paying a lot anyhow. so even if you take 100% tax cut of that is isn't going to compare to a cut of any substantial amount for higher incomes.

who will be the first person to rightfully claim that balancing the budget () should start with defense?

We’re not paying anything at all. The point of making the credit “fully refundable” means it’s a straight welfare check after all other refunds are made. It’s direct cash assistance to poor families with kids.

[mookie1995]

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We’re not paying anything at all. The point of making the credit “fully refundable” means it’s a straight welfare check after all other refunds are made. It’s direct cash assistance to poor families with kids.

earned income credit you mean? (EIC)

[The Sicatoka]

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... balancing the budget ...

What is this utter non-sense of which you speak. Such foolishness has not been pondered, much less attempted, in decades. Such things are now dragons and unicorns.

[geezer]

earned income credit you mean? (EIC)

The child tax credit that Rubio inserted late; the original bill had it at $2k but 900 non-refundable. Now 600 of it is non-refundable. (In Congress “non-refundable” means “refundable” and “refundable” means “welfare check”).

[RickSanchez]

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Well, everyone was warned. Just more money to the 1%. Typical. This has to be the stupidest ****ing nation on Earth.

In 2021, net neutrality will be passed as a law and not just an FCC ruling, after the public outcry finally gets a chance to be heard.

[Kepler]

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I like that less and less people identify as Republican, meaning that that 66% isn't going to be enough outside of primaries.

It's good but it's deceptive. A lot of "Independents" are like the folks here "oh mercy no, me?, I'm not a Republican" but just happen to vote Republican every time there's no Libertarian. If the GOP was losing votes at the clip they've lost registered members they'd be down to about 30 Senators now. Other things are going on.

[Kepler]

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In 2021, net neutrality will be passed as a law and not just an FCC ruling, after the public outcry finally gets a chance to be heard.

Hopefully, but we're going to need to nuke the filibuster for that. With cloture at 50+ we can start turning back some of the plutocratic stuff. Never at 60. With the way things are now culturally no party is getting to 60 for thirty years.

[walrus]

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Other things are going on.

People don't like the other choice?