POTUS 46:24 - Donald Trump! Superstar!!

[ScoobyDoo]

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Flynn charged with lying to FBI

So, let's see if I have this right. He lied to the FBI. Clinton was under oath for 10 hours with the GOD of prosecutors Trey Gowdy questioning her and they couldn't catch her in a lie?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...-probe-n825551

And for the cherry on the sundae Flynn had orgasms onstage at the RNC while chanting "Lock Her Up".

And this scenario is so outrageous, so bizarre, and yet we still have Breitbart and Infowars bombarding us with Fake News???????

Really?

[ExileOnDaytonStreet]

I feel like these two thoughts are very contradictory.

How do you figure? All politicians are prone to corruption with the rules as they are. It might impact the right more than the left, but don’t put halos on the left.

[ScoobyDoo]

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How do you figure? All politicians are prone to corruption with the rules as they are. It might impact the right more than the left, but don’t put halos on the left.

Who's putting halos on the left?

If you're a rational thinking human being who can use their brain then it's pretty easy to figure out which party's members are also rational thinking human beings. That's how low the bar is right now. It has nothing to do with halos.

[trixR4kids]

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How do you figure? All politicians are prone to corruption with the rules as they are. It might impact the right more than the left, but don’t put halos on the left.

Let me know when Bernie or whoever on the left proposes something that doesn't involve the rich paying their fair share of taxes and we'll talk. I'm not saying those on the left can't possibly be prone to corruption but I'm more willing to bet on those who aren't beholden to financial institutions/Wall St.

[Drew S.]

A “genuine” leftist Democratic Party will not be great in the long term, outside of a better energy/environmental policy.

I support a liberal government in general, but I don’t to see us spend our way into oblivion.

What we really need is twofold:
1- An end to the instituionalized corruption that gives the 1% exclusive access to governance. It’ll probably take a century, if that.
2- A return to idea that we can have different beliefs and be on the same team. The GOP needs to realize that being left of David Frum doesn’t mean that you hate America. The Bernie Bros (and all college sophomores) need to realize that everyone right of Josh Barro isn’t automatically a racist, misogynistic, Muslim-hating xenophobe. Moderation through cooperation, because no party has all of the answers and this tribalism is stopping us from seeing it.

Also, Flaggy is an idiot.

What you were trying to write is tough to articulate, but I agree with the sentiment. We should agree on the major issues, and I think for the most part we do. The petty stuff has obstructed us from tackling the important issues and at some point that needs to change.

[ScoobyDoo]

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What you were trying to write is tough to articulate, but I agree with the sentiment. We should agree on the major issues, and I think for the most part we do. The petty stuff has obstructed us from tackling the important issues and at some point that needs to change.

You're equivocating again. Sorry, until the Republicans actually step up and start governing we will never get anywhere. This is all on one party.

[trixR4kids]

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What you were trying to write is tough to articulate, but I agree with the sentiment. We should agree on the major issues, and I think for the most part we do. The petty stuff has obstructed us from tackling the important issues and at some point that needs to change.

Do we really though? Like this tax plan for instance which is being pushed solely by one party and is a huge issue especially for the future of our economy/democracy and yet there are some even on here who are for it.

[Drew S.]

Do we really though? Like this tax plan for instance which is being pushed solely by one party and is a huge issue especially for the future of our economy/democracy and yet there are some even on here who are for it.

I’m pretty confident at least 80% or so is on the same page. The problem is the current setup much more than individuals. I would contend that the majority of the people who ‘support’ the tax plan are ignorant.

[mookie1995]

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Wow

Plead guilty

[Kepler]

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A “genuine” leftist Democratic Party will not be great in the long term, outside of a better energy/environmental policy.

I support a liberal government in general, but I don’t to see us spend our way into oblivion.

Leftists won't spend us into oblivion, that's a Republican smear. Leftists will collect revenue for every dollar we spend and balance the budget. Because we care about the commonwealth, unlike the parasitic plutes who just go from country to country like locusts, stealing and bankrupting and then moving on.

We are the ones who are fiscally responsible. They are the profligates.

[Drew S.]

Leftists won't spend us into oblivion, that's a Republican smear. Leftists will collect revenue for every dollar we spend and balance the budget. Because we care about the commonwealth, unlike the parasitic plutes who just go from country to country like locusts, stealing and bankrupting and then moving on.

We are the ones who are fiscally responsible. They are the profligates.

What about CT, NY, IL, and NJ?

[ScoobyDoo]

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What about CT, NY, IL, and NJ?

All of those states pay more in Federal Taxes then they get back.

Try again.

[Drew S.]

All of those states pay more in Federal Taxes then they get back.

Try again.

How are their state finances?

[Kepler]

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What about CT, NY, IL, and NJ?

Federal unfunded mandates. In many instances state debt derives from the federal Republican shell game of levying requirements without funding them, or of undercutting federal responsibilities and forcing the states to cover them. In many cases this has been a deliberate attempt to bankrupt blue states.

[joecct]

$100 million over 8 years? That's going large? $100 million in Washington is a rounding error.

Meanwhile, the party you support is about to hand $1.5 trillion of taxpayer money over to millionaires and corporations, and not a peep from you. And you're gonna quibble over $100 million?

At least that money didn' go straight into Obama's pocket. Everywhere Trumpy goes, it's a property he owns. How much you suppose Mar-a-Lago charges him for his suite? 10, 20,000 a night? Rooms for the rest of his party and staff? You think the Secret Service has to double up, or do you think they all get their own room? At the insistence of the president, of course. Every penny going into Donald Trump's wallet.

But not a peep from you about that. But you cry about $15 million/year that Obama spent.

JFC, no I didn't. Your supreme hatred of all things Trump/GOP blinds you to sarcasm and humor from people different than you.