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  • Re: Middlebury slide continues ...

    Another absolutely amazing performance by Stephen Klein in goal for Middlebury Saturday afternoon. He is not going to get any outside recognition because he performs his wonders behind a team that can't score, can't win, isn't coached. He is probably the best goalie Middlebury has had during my years watching them at Kenyon Arena. Midway through the first period the undisciplined (Coaching, anyone?) Panthers took 2 simultaneous 5 minute majors while the Statesman were assessed a single minor penalty. That the Panthers managed to hold Hamilton scoreless over the two minutes of 4 on 3 and three minutes of relentless 5 on 3 defies belief, but Klein somehow denied everything the Statesmen rocketed his way. One would expect this sort of performance to inspire his teammates to shake off their torpor and respond in kind. Instead, with the Sinclairity of thought and deed we have come to expect of Middlebury, they not only failed to find the back of the Hamilton net, they provided the dagger for their own defeat. Through all the penalties, the breakaways, the odd man rushes, Klein denied every shot until the Panthers turned the puck over to a wide open Nick Ursitti right in front of an open net. Klein will move on to a brighter future, I am certain. As for the rest of us, we can only hope.
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    • Re: Middlebury slide continues ...

      Originally posted by minnesotan in vermont View Post
      Midway through the first period the undisciplined (Coaching, anyone?) Panthers took 2 simultaneous 5 minute majors while the Statesman were assessed a single minor penalty.
      Statesman no, Continentals, yes.
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      • Re: Middlebury slide continues ...

        Originally posted by neumyer View Post
        Statesman no, Continentals, yes.
        Oops

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        • Re: Isn't anyone going to start a NESCAC 2017-2018 thread?

          Colby slipped a place in the playoff standings once the tie-breakers were all sorted out. Ironically, that's a good thing, as they avoided that long road trip to Hamilton.
          Mule Train, 2018 NESCAC Champs, made it to the Frozen Four

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          • Re: Isn't anyone going to start a NESCAC 2017-2018 thread?

            With two of their three league losses having come in the last two weeks, cracks are starting to appear in Trinity's veneer. Tufts hasn't had too bad a month in closing out the season and should not be underestimated. Three points separate the rest. Looks like a fairly typical NESCAC playoff...
            Mule Train, 2018 NESCAC Champs, made it to the Frozen Four

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            • Re: Isn't anyone going to start a NESCAC 2017-2018 thread?

              Originally posted by OhioMule View Post
              Colby hockey has suffered since Jim Tortorella's sudden departure some seven years ago. Coach MacDonald has been methodically rebuilding. He brings a welcome stability to the job. We are lucky to have him. Last year his recruiting paid off and, even though the team graduated a bunch of good seniors, this year is looking good so far. This week, the Mules broke into the top 15 and had the NESCAC Player of the Week for the second week in a row.

              Bowdoin and Colby are inextricably linked in many ways, but most of all in hockey. It's great to have a worthy rival. Down years come and go, but we have a lot of great games in this rivalry to look forward to.
              100% in agreement. Coach MacDonald has been doing an excellent job at Colby.

              The Bowdoin program has been in a steep decline: Two losing seasons in a row, eighth-place finish last year, and ninth (and out of the playoffs for the first time in nineteen seasons) this year. It no longer attracts the talent needed to compete in NESCAC let alone nationally. This is a program that started the decade with a beautiful new rink, three NESCAC titles, four trips to the NCAA tournament, and several players selected as All-Americans. Not long ago it used to play exciting, skilled, offensive hockey.

              From recent conversations at the Watson rink, it's clear that the players, parents, and fans are quite unhappy but the athletic administration doesn't seem to care.

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              • Re: Isn't anyone going to start a NESCAC 2017-2018 thread?

                Totally remarkable that the two teams that didn't make the playoffs in the NESCAC are the two teams with the longest history of success in hockey. The world is changing.
                2007-2008 ECAC East/NESCAC Interlock Pick 'em winner
                2007-2008 Last Person Standing Winner,
                2013-2014 Last Person Standing Winner (tie)
                2016-2017 Last Person Standing Winner

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                • Re: Isn't anyone going to start a NESCAC 2017-2018 thread?

                  Originally posted by NUProf View Post
                  Totally remarkable that the two teams that didn't make the playoffs in the NESCAC are the two teams with the longest history of success in hockey. The world is changing.
                  Indeed the world of NESCAC hockey has changed in a few short years. The fact that the powers that be in Middlebury have not moved to replace Sinclair as head coach indicates to me they have lost all interest in men's hockey in Pantherland.

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                  • Re: Isn't anyone going to start a NESCAC 2017-2018 thread?

                    Originally posted by NUProf View Post
                    Totally remarkable that the two teams that didn't make the playoffs in the NESCAC are the two teams with the longest history of success in hockey. The world is changing.
                    Meanwhile, Tortorella had a pretty good season in his first as head coach of St. Anselm (16-9-1). Somebody ought to be looking at him. http://www.uscho.com/stats/coach/mid,77/jim-tortorella/
                    Last edited by OhioMule; 02-27-2018, 02:09 PM.
                    Mule Train, 2018 NESCAC Champs, made it to the Frozen Four

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                    • Re: Isn't anyone going to start a NESCAC 2017-2018 thread?

                      Originally posted by NUProf View Post
                      Totally remarkable that the two teams that didn't make the playoffs in the NESCAC are the two teams with the longest history of success in hockey. The world is changing.
                      Their respective administrations are laser focused on pushing academic admissions standards through the roof and increasing diversity. They likely are glad their high-powered successful hockey coaches are gone. Now they have leverage, and are applying it.

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                      • Re: Isn't anyone going to start a NESCAC 2017-2018 thread?

                        Originally posted by Meehan Popcorn Guy View Post
                        Their respective administrations are laser focused on pushing academic admissions standards through the roof and increasing diversity. They likely are glad their high-powered successful hockey coaches are gone. Now they have leverage, and are applying it.
                        But are the Bowdoin and Middlebury administrations actually different in approach on those two issues (admissions standards and diversity) from, say, Amherst, Williams, or Wesleyan.

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                        • Re: Isn't anyone going to start a NESCAC 2017-2018 thread?

                          The problem at Middlebury College runs far deeper than admissions policy. The movement against athletics, or “athletic privilege,” defined by those who prefer athletic programing not exist at all, came to a head at Middlebury in 2015. The anti-athletic student and administrative factions fail to recognize the importance of sport and athletics in society and in our daily lives.
                          The United Nations has recognized the importance of sport. Ironically, about the same time that Middlebury was demeaning its student athletes in the article published and later becoming fodder for the Middlebury anti-sport movement, “It’s Actually Just a Game,” the United Nations was recognizing sport as so much more! On the second annual International Day of Sport for Development and Peace, April 15th, 2015, the United Nations wrote:
                          “Sport has the power to help develop the potential of individuals, communities and nations,” … “On this International Day, let us pledge to strengthen the role that sport plays in communities around the world. We need to have everyone on the team.”
                          Mr. Ban described the role sport plays in encouraging personal growth, eliminating gender barriers and building bridges across lines that might otherwise divide. He added that sport helps to create cultures where fundamental values such as equality, the acceptance of rules, mutual respect and fairness are appreciated.
                          “It helps the more vulnerable groups in society, especially young people and persons with disabilities, to enjoy their human rights, including safe opportunities to engage in physical education programmes and sporting activities,” he said. “This contributes to their inclusion in society and increases their motivation to attend school.”
                          The problem at Middlebury runs far deeper than Admissions, or coaching, or recruitment. Until Middlebury supports and fosters a culture that recognizes the life long commitment that athletes, even at the Div III level, make to be the best they can be at their sport, athletics at Middlebury will suffer. As long as student athletes cannot share the pride of any success with the college, athletic programs will suffer.
                          Middlebury, develop the most culturally diverse and successful DIII athletic program in the country and be proud of it. Promote women’s sport and do it better than any other DIII program in the country. Be proud of all of your athletes and their accomplishments. Do all you can to help them be successful. Do this or cancel all of the programs entirely and allow the student athletes to study and compete at a college that is proud of them and their accomplishments.

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                          • Re: Isn't anyone going to start a NESCAC 2017-2018 thread?

                            So I know the NESCAC is composed of some of the highest ranked and most prestigious liberal arts schools in the country, but it also seems to be the spearhead of everything wrong in higher education today. From Middlebury students assaulting speakers to Williams cancelling speeches at an ironically named "Uncomfortable Learning" lecture series, to now the "anti-athletics" movement. How do you older alums feel about this?
                            Norwich '13

                            2017-2018 Last Person Standing Champion

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                            • Originally posted by NU Pastime View Post
                              So I know the NESCAC is composed of some of the highest ranked and most prestigious liberal arts schools in the country, but it also seems to be the spearhead of everything wrong in higher education today. From Middlebury students assaulting speakers to Williams cancelling speeches at an ironically named "Uncomfortable Learning" lecture series, to now the "anti-athletics" movement. How do you older alums feel about this?
                              Jealousy, selfishness, and envy is guised as an attempt to stop privilege. Rich, all of the words the anti-athletes want us to use so they can say "look how special they think they are." Well athletes are special. They win Olympic Medals, they instill pride in country and community. They train endless hours to be their best. But, no, this is Division III. No Olympic medals here. Nobody cares. The athletes care. The community cares. They win Nescac and National Championships. They bring pride to their school. They include many of the best and the brightest that will not only cure their medical patients but will have the skills and bedside manner to relate to them.

                              The debate is not who s right. Rather there is a decision. Athletics or not. If not, stop. Don't mislead athletes to attend a school claiming to be committed to its programs. Let them make a better decision. If yes, athletics needs full support not just financially but to administer the programs successfully.

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                              • Re: Isn't anyone going to start a NESCAC 2017-2018 thread?

                                Originally posted by Midfan View Post
                                The problem at Middlebury College runs far deeper than admissions policy. The movement against athletics, or “athletic privilege,” defined by those who prefer athletic programing not exist at all, came to a head at Middlebury in 2015. The anti-athletic student and administrative factions fail to recognize the importance of sport and athletics in society and in our daily lives.
                                . . .
                                Agree that this trend exists at Middlebury and many other NESCACs but do not see it as affecting the overall quality of Middlebury's athletic program. Most of Middlebury's other athletic programs continue to perform at a high level. The Middlebury football, for example, with its much greater commitment of admissions slots, continues to perform at a very high level, tying for second place in the league this past fall with a fine 7-2 record.. This year's men's basketball team tied for first place in the NESCAC. Last year's baseball team won its division in the NESCAC. And so on. It is only Middlebury's men's hockey team that has managed to land in last place in the NESCAC so the explanation for the demise of the hockey program likely resides with the hockey program and not with the overall treatment of athletics at Middlebury.
                                Last edited by d3follower; 03-01-2018, 02:18 AM.

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