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  • #331
    Re: 115th Congress: On Permanent Vacation

    Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
    And Moore’s campaign manager quits- maybe Donald can send him a new one.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3...mpaign-resigns
    Communications Direct, not Campaign Manager.
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    • #332
      Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
      Communications Direct, not Campaign Manager.
      Whoops, that’s what I meant.

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      • #333
        Re: 115th Congress: On Permanent Vacation

        Originally posted by Deutsche Gopher Fan View Post
        Whoops, that’s what I meant.
        fake news
        a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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        • #334
          Re: 115th Congress: On Permanent Vacation

          Moore continues to slip.

          Jones is now ahead on the RCP composite by 0.8 points. 538 has made the point that Moore's erosion is apparently continuing -- it wasn't just the initial hit when the story broke.

          -2 would be a lot easier to make up in 2018 than -3.
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          • #335
            Re: 115th Congress: On Permanent Vacation

            So I have a modest proposal. I've thought about it for all of 10 minutes so obviously there may be glaring deficiencies.

            Let's not use the census to apportion Congressional districts between the states anymore. Let's use turnout in the prior general election.

            Not only would states have an incentive to stop voter suppression. They would have an incentive to promote higher turnout with education, for user friendly polling station location and hours. Above all, they would have an incentive to improve the public perception of the legitimacy of the electoral system.

            We might even see a nationwide push for voting on a national holiday, a weekend, or an extended period, as well as greater use of mail in balloting.
            Last edited by Kepler; 11-27-2017, 09:46 AM.
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            • #336
              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
              So I have a modest proposal. I've thought about it for all of 10 minutes so obviously there may be glaring deficiencies.

              Let's not use the census to apportion Congressional districts between the states anymore. Let's use turnout in the prior general election.
              And give even more power to the GOP? Really?

              (Population includes kids and immigrants, neither of whom can vote and more of whom live in urban/suburban districts).

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              • #337
                Re: 115th Congress: On Permanent Vacation

                Originally posted by unofan View Post
                And give even more power to the GOP? Really?

                (Population includes kids and immigrants, neither of whom can vote and more of whom live in urban/suburban districts).
                More than outweighed by states actually trying to pump their numbers by pushing up turnout. Think about who gets left out right now.

                Also: think about family size. Edgar and Paulette Liberal have 1 kid. Cletus and Darlene Orc have 11.
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                • #338
                  Re: 115th Congress: On Permanent Vacation

                  Originally posted by unofan View Post
                  (Population includes kids and immigrants, neither of whom can vote and more of whom live in urban/suburban districts).
                  I have no numbers but it would not surprise me if more immigrants live in red states.

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                  • #339
                    Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                    More than outweighed by states actually trying to pump their numbers by pushing up turnout. Think about who gets left out right now.

                    Also: think about family size. Edgar and Paulette Liberal have 1 kid. Cletus and Darlene Orc have 11.
                    Rural areas are old and dying, but vote every time. Urban and suburban areas have more of people who can't vote, and more who don't.

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                    • #340
                      Re: 115th Congress: On Permanent Vacation

                      Originally posted by unofan View Post
                      Rural areas are old and dying, but vote every time. Urban and suburban areas have more of people who can't vote, and more who don't.
                      My point exactly. Currently, a third of the country is reactionary but they all vote. Two-thirds of the country is progressive but only half of them vote. So incentify the states to encourage voter turnout in order to increase their representation. There's only one place for them to go for those voters: the same people states have been passively (recently, actively) disenfranchising for decades.
                      Last edited by Kepler; 11-27-2017, 10:36 AM.
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                      • #341
                        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        My point exactly.
                        So you want to increase the power of the rural areas by apportioning representatives based on votes? Really?

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                        • #342
                          Re: 115th Congress: On Permanent Vacation

                          Originally posted by unofan View Post
                          So you want to increase the power of the rural areas by apportioning representatives based on votes? Really?
                          kep thinks that his method would encourage turnout from those lefties too bored to actually vote now.
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                          • #343
                            Re: 115th Congress: On Permanent Vacation

                            Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                            kep thinks that his method would encourage turnout from those lefties too bored to actually vote now.
                            Not bored.

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                            • #344
                              Re: 115th Congress: On Permanent Vacation

                              Originally posted by unofan View Post
                              So you want to increase the power of the rural areas by apportioning representatives based on votes? Really?
                              No, I've explained below.

                              But if it helps I also want to abolish the Senate to cut down on dirt and shrubs voting.
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                              • #345
                                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                                No, I've explained below.

                                But if it helps I also want to abolish the Senate to cut down on dirt and shrubs voting.
                                That still doesn't help the 15% too young to vote or the 5% otherwise ineligible by citizenship or incarceration.

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