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  • #31
    Re: She Who Must Be Obeyed

    Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
    I suppose, if you want to get into the semantics of "recognize" vs. "permit/allow". I thought you were intimating that the US does not allow dual citizens; my mistake.
    I just meant they ignore it. It's not like if you accept British citizenship the US boots you.

    There may be issues if it's an enemy nation, though.

    One interesting thing on the SF86: they ask whether you are a US citizen; they do not ask if you are a citizen of any other nation, presumably because as far as the US is concerned the former makes the latter inoperative.
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    • #32
      Re: She Who Must Be Obeyed

      Originally posted by French Rage View Post
      Haha.
      Almost as good as the Mythbusters where they both could have stayed on the driftwood or whatever.
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      • #33
        Re: She Who Must Be Obeyed

        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        I just meant they ignore it. It's not like if you accept British citizenship the US boots you.

        There may be issues if it's an enemy nation, though.

        One interesting thing on the SF86: they ask whether you are a US citizen; they do not ask if you are a citizen of any other nation, presumably because as far as the US is concerned the former makes the latter inoperative.
        us citizen pays us taxes. that's all that matters
        a legend and an out of work bum look a lot alike, daddy.

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        • #34
          Re: She Who Must Be Obeyed

          Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
          us citizen pays us taxes. that's all that matters
          If you think you're exempt from taxes if you're not a citizen of that nation you may get an extremely unpleasant surprise someday.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
            If you think you're exempt from taxes if you're not a citizen of that nation you may get an extremely unpleasant surprise someday.
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            • #36
              Re: She Who Must Be Obeyed

              Originally posted by joecct View Post
              The Ronaldo Factor?
              Is that what happened to him? I thought his Lionel Hutz hid his assets and thought nobody would, say, read the papers.
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              • #37
                Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                If you think you're exempt from taxes if you're not a citizen of that nation you may get an extremely unpleasant surprise someday.
                Us citizens (Mookie) pay us taxes when they live in another country!!!

                One that has NO taxes to boot

                Canadians don’t
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                • #38
                  Re: She Who Must Be Obeyed

                  Honey, I'm having a group of guys over on Saturday. We'll be playing in the back yard.

                  http://worldwarwings.com/paintball-b...n-check-video/
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                  • #39
                    Re: She Who Must Be Obeyed

                    Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                    I had a friend in HS who had to choose at 18 between US and Polish/EU citizenship, because both of his parents are first-gen Polish immigrants and Poland is one of the EU countries that do not recognize dual citizenship. He obviously stuck with his natural-born US citizenship.

                    Germany currently only allows it with other EU countries, so your friend's dad must be grandfathered in.
                    That is not true. German Jews lost their citizenship in November 1941. After WWII, I think in 1948, that law was repealed. Any of those people who became US citizens between those dates could not give up their previous citizenship since they were stateless. They could reclaim it after 1948. Also someone whose father lost their citizenship between those dates can claim it based upon their father. My father became a US citizen in 1939, so this does not apply to me. Had the current law which grants citizenship based upon either parent being German been in effect back then, I could get German citizenship because my mother became a US citizen in 1945. I know a lot of people of my generation or the generation younger than me who have taken advantage of this.
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                    • #40
                      Re: She Who Must Be Obeyed

                      Originally posted by joecct View Post
                      Honey, I'm having a group of guys over on Saturday. We'll be playing in the back yard.

                      http://worldwarwings.com/paintball-b...n-check-video/
                      I'm not into paintball, but that's freaking cool.
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                      • #41
                        Re: She Who Must Be Obeyed

                        Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
                        Us citizens (Mookie) pay us taxes when they live in another country!!!

                        One that has NO taxes to boot

                        Canadians don’t
                        Obviously every country is different, and also the country you work in might want to claim taxes. My brother-in-law worked in Japan for a total of 18 years. He worked for an American, but international, company. The American office paid him, so that part of his taxes was simple. I believe Japan wanted a piece of that though, and his company essentially paid that portion of the taxes.

                        States are like that too. Technically, even a business trip to New York State requires you to pay out of residence state income tax to NYS for that period of time you are "working" in NYS.

                        It's get really complicated for athletes who compete around the world, like golfers or tennis players, as each country sometimes wants to claim a portion of income taxes that you earned in prize money in that country.
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                        • #42
                          Re: She Who Must Be Obeyed

                          I filed in 7 states last year. It sucked.

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                          • #43
                            Re: She Who Must Be Obeyed

                            Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                            I filed in 7 states last year. It sucked.
                            Yikes. Are you an IC?
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                            • #44
                              Re: She Who Must Be Obeyed

                              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                              Yikes. Are you an IC?
                              Consultant, yes, but not independent - F500. I do my own taxes, regardless. It keeps me on my toes.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by FadeToBlack&Gold View Post
                                I filed in 7 states last year. It sucked.
                                My record was 8 in one year. Hawaii and Virginia sent me refunds of less than 10 cents.
                                When I worked abroad I had to pay Brit and us taxes but my firm paid the Brit taxes. Since I was abroad no us federal withholding came out of my checks so my company held it for me. They held over 10k too much so that was a surprise check that year

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