She Who Must Be Obeyed

[Kepler]

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English lesson for girl this morning.....

Shippers are coming so mookie moves the cars. Girl drives a stick. Mookie can’t drive a stick.

Mookie moves both cars from driveway to street this morning.

Girl is yelling cause mookie moves stick from driveway to street.... “you told me you can’t drive a stick!!”

- mookie can’t

“But it’s in the street”

-that’s not driving. That’s moving. Mookie can’t operate a stick, but can’t drive it

“What???”

I could pick up my daughter from the school 2 miles away in Dr. Mrs.' standard hooptie. That doesn't mean I can drive a stick.

BTW, it really sucks when 4th graders laugh at your driving. And you deserve it.

[bostonewe]

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How do people not know how to drive stick?! Especially those of you (mook, Kep) who are...of a certain age?

[Kepler]

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How do people not know how to drive stick?! Especially those of you (mook, Kep) who are...of a certain age?

I had never met a person who could drive stick until I moved west when I was 35.*

Christ, it's not like I grew up in the 1940s...

The only people who drive stick on the Acela corridor are as-sholes who own, or want to own, performance sports cars, or the Poors who have hoopties. The rest of us are automatic trans cradle to grave. Stick is a deprecated technology unless you drive F-1.

* I have a non-trivial number of friends from NYC who never learned to drive. There was simply no point for them.

[SJHovey]

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I had never met a person who could drive stick until I moved west when I was 35.*

Christ, it's not like I grew up in the 1940s...

The only people who drive stick on the Acela corridor are as-sholes who own, or want to own, performance sports cars, or the Poors who have hoopties. The rest of us are automatic trans cradle to grave. Stick is a deprecated technology unless you drive F-1.

* I have a non-trivial number of friends from NYC who never learned to drive. There was simply no point for them.

The only reason we have automatic transmission is to grant permission to drive to those of limited manual dexterity. Manual transmission is the far superior technology. Much better fuel mileage, easier on the brakes, you don't have transmission fluid that you're constantly changing or filling. Plus, you never have to worry about it being stolen because almost no one knows how to drive them anymore. I've driven stick shift vehicles for close to 50 years and still own one today.

Unfortunately, physical dexterity skills are deteriorating in the human race at an ever increasing rate, thus the need to develop cars in which the "driver" doesn't have to do anything at all except hoist his azz into the seat.

[Kepler]

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Shorter SJHovey: "ballpoint pens are for inferior people who can't whittle their own nibs."

[bostonewe]

I had never met a person who could drive stick until I moved west when I was 35.*

Christ, it's not like I grew up in the 1940s...

The only people who drive stick on the Acela corridor are as-sholes who own, or want to own, performance sports cars, or the Poors who have hoopties. The rest of us are automatic trans cradle to grave. Stick is a deprecated technology unless you drive F-1.

* I have a non-trivial number of friends from NYC who never learned to drive. There was simply no point for them.

I can actually understand the not learning to drive more than learning to drive, but only automatic. I, too, have several friends from metro areas (Boston and NYC) who have never learned or learned in their mid- to late 30s.

I grew up in rural PA and just assumed that everyone learned. Not necessarily because their family had a stick, but because either a friend did (rural friends) or because they went to Europe in the summer (Prep school friends). Both my parents (also not born in the 40s) also drive stick.

Not a dig on you, Kep. I'm always surprised to come across someone over 35 who doesn't know how. Younger than that, I'm not surprised since availability these days is ever shrinking. (My newest car, purchased this year, is a stick, but I was limited as to which models I could buy from this conpany if I wanted manual transmission).

[Kepler]

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I can actually understand the not learning to drive more than learning to drive, but only automatic. I, too, have several friends from metro areas (Boston and NYC) who have never learned or learned in their mid- to late 30s.

I grew up in rural PA and just assumed that everyone learned. Not necessarily because their family had a stick, but because either a friend did (rural friends) or because they went to Europe in the summer (Prep school friends). Both my parents (also not born in the 40s) also drive stick.

Not a dig on you, Kep. I'm always surprised to come across someone over 35 who doesn't know how. Younger than that, I'm not surprised since availability these days is ever shrinking. (My newest car, purchased this year, is a stick, but I was limited as to which models I could buy from this conpany if I wanted manual transmission).

I was surprised at first when I moved to the West that everybody drives stick there. It would make zero sense in the northeastern cities' start-stop traffic. But in the West it makes perfect sense to drive stick -- you have far more control, it's more fun, and you get better mileage.

I wish I'd learned -- I just never had any incentive, like 98% of the people I grew up with.

I have had several GFs who tried to teach me, including Dr. Mrs. That didn't work for anybody. I love driving, and we plan to retire to the West, so once we're settled there I'll probably just get an instructor and pick it up in a couple days.

[St. Clown]

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I had never met a person who could drive stick until I moved west when I was 35.*

Christ, it's not like I grew up in the 1940s...

The only people who drive stick on the Acela corridor are as-sholes who own, or want to own, performance sports cars, or the Poors who have hoopties. The rest of us are automatic trans cradle to grave. Stick is a deprecated technology unless you drive F-1.

* I have a non-trivial number of friends from NYC who never learned to drive. There was simply no point for them.

I find that I was a much more engaged driver when I drove manual transmissions - acceleration rates, how I'm approaching a curve, etc.

Hovey - automatic transmissions are largely exceeding manual transmissions for MPG ratings now. The computers used to control them, and adding up to 8 gears now, have made them more efficient than manual transmissions.

[St. Clown]

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I was surprised at first when I moved to the West that everybody drives stick there. It would make zero sense in the northeastern cities' start-stop traffic. But in the West it makes perfect sense to drive stick -- you have far more control, it's more fun, and you get better mileage.

I wish I'd learned -- I just never had any incentive, like 98% of the people I grew up with.

I have had several GFs who tried to teach me, including Dr. Mrs. That didn't work for anybody. I love driving, and we plan to retire to the West, so once we're settled there I'll probably just get an instructor and pick it up in a couple days.

Manual transmissions are only about 7% of overall vehicle sales now. Many cars don't even offer them anymore, it's more like a traditional automatic or the CVT are your transmission options now.

[mookie1995]

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need practice. first time mookie drove one was buds rx7 in boston while at school. mookie asked for a ride and bud tossed the keys and said go yourself. clutch gas. easy peasy

like guitar. mookie can teach guitar but can't "play" unless everyone else playing with is drunk!

stuff like that requires practice to be able to "DO". and automatic is easy. mookie is inherently lazy. sooooooooorrrrrryyy

[SJHovey]

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Shorter SJHovey: "ballpoint pens are for inferior people who can't whittle their own nibs."

I'm sure once you've moved out west you'll have no problem at all working out the dexterity issues and come to enjoy driving a stick as much as the rest of us.

[Kepler]

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like guitar. mookie can teach guitar but can't "play" unless everyone else playing with is drunk!

I read all mookie posts in the voice of Code Monkey.

[Kepler]

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538 survey on attitudes re: masculinity.

I am Jack's complete lack of surprise. It's not that the results are depressing (they aren't) or laudable (they aren't), it's just that they seem to me to be utterly predictable.

[dxmnkd316]

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The only reason we have automatic transmission is to grant permission to drive to those of limited manual dexterity. Manual transmission is the far superior technology. Much better fuel mileage, easier on the brakes, you don't have transmission fluid that you're constantly changing or filling. Plus, you never have to worry about it being stolen because almost no one knows how to drive them anymore. I've driven stick shift vehicles for close to 50 years and still own one today.

Unfortunately, physical dexterity skills are deteriorating in the human race at an ever increasing rate, thus the need to develop cars in which the "driver" doesn't have to do anything at all except hoist his azz into the seat.

Modern automatic transmissions effectively match that of manuals for mileage now. Especially some of the more advanced ones. I changed my transmissions fluid once on my old car.

I also disagree with the dexterity. I’m not sure that’s the right word to use.

[Deutsche Gopher Fan]

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I posted this in the potus thread, whoops.

Back in college a few of my friends with manuals said I was a girl who they thought should be driving a manual. I took it as a compliment