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    Re: D3 Polls - 2017-18

    Quote Originally Posted by BetterInLakePlacid View Post
    The KRACH doesnt mean anything either.
    Certainly more than the polls...

    Kindly direct me to a better objective metric, and I'll be all-in on that.

    We're dealing with enough smoke and mirrors in Washington, rigged systems, bald-faced lies, and just simple BS; let's make D-3 hockey a bastion of factual information, FCS, and lead our nation ahead towards the millennium!

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    Re: D3 Polls - 2017-18

    Thumbs up on that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman'81 View Post
    OK, and to your putative point, what's the reason to publish these polls in any case..? There's no "there" there.

    A half-way decent statistical analysis -even the RPI- carries far more logical credence than a throw-away beauty contest, don't ya think?

    But, if they "fixed " it, I'd honestly like to hear your take on that. There always seems to be a man be hind the curtain to ignore in D-3. If they agreed on any sort of objective measure, there goes the controversy.
    I only like the polls when Utica isnt involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman'81 View Post
    OK, and to your putative point, what's the reason to publish these polls in any case..? There's no "there" there.
    Entertainment. Simple as that.

    And it also gets these organizations which run the polls free advertising, as they are mentioned numerous times by other outlets.

    But, if they "fixed " it, I'd honestly like to hear your take on that. There always seems to be a man be hind the curtain to ignore in D-3. If they agreed on any sort of objective measure, there goes the controversy.
    Seriously? Are you that dense? Someone realized that 13 votes for Trine were really meant for Trinity (and they may have asked the voter to verify that). So, the 13 votes were switched to Trinity. That's all. Sheesh...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russell Jaslow View Post
    Entertainment. Simple as that.

    And it also gets these organizations which run the polls free advertising, as they are mentioned numerous times by other outlets.



    Seriously? Are you that dense? Someone realized that 13 votes for Trine were really meant for Trinity (and they may have asked the voter to verify that). So, the 13 votes were switched to Trinity. That's all. Sheesh...
    Now why in the world do you think that your reference was obvious? I never mentioned any such thing.

    Talk about "dense".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman'81 View Post
    Now why in the world do you think that your reference was obvious? I never mentioned any such thing.

    Talk about "dense".
    I have a head cold right now. So, I definitely feel dense...

    You were implying some man behind the curtain when it was a simple logical look at what happened to the voting between Trine and Trinity.
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    New #1 in the USCHO poll. Interesting how they have a worse record than the #2 team, and are also 0-1 head to head against #2 (and 0-2 head to head against #3 for that matter).

    But Adam Krug is #1 so it all makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Coughlin View Post
    New #1 in the USCHO poll. Interesting how they have a worse record than the #2 team, and are also 0-1 head to head against #2 (and 0-2 head to head against #3 for that matter).

    But Adam Krug is #1 so it all makes sense.
    Herb Brooks said it best.
    Im sick and tired of hearing about how good St. Norbert is. Their time is done.

    The USCHO doesnt know their head from their *** though when it comes to d3, so don't put too much stock into their poll.
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    Re: D3 Polls - 2017-18

    West coast bias at its best....

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    So how does Nichols split with Endicott over the weekend, dropping Endicott from #2 to #4, and yet reveive no votes this week after getting four votes last week? Not a big deal overall but shows the inconsistency of the voters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam_Krug#1 View Post
    Herb Brooks said it best.
    Im sick and tired of hearing about how good St. Norbert is. Their time is done.

    The USCHO doesnt know their head from their *** though when it comes to d3, so don't put too much stock into their poll.
    Lots of coaches have USCHO accounts now...alive and dead, hockey and football.....interesting......YO SNC and Point.... you got jacked!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OZFEST View Post
    Lots of coaches have USCHO accounts now...alive and dead, hockey and football.....interesting......YO SNC and Point.... you got jacked!
    SNC is still #1 in the D3Hockey poll. Looking forward to the #1 vs #1 matchup on Friday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Coughlin View Post
    SNC is still #1 in the D3Hockey poll. Looking forward to the #1 vs #1 matchup on Friday.
    We may never see a #1 vs #1 split poll game again.
    1. Both teams need to split in the polls
    2. Both teams only have a 25 game schedule
    3. The schedule needs to line up perfectly when both teams are ranked #1

    I don't know what is a more rare situation, this #1 vs #1 game, or a first year expansion team in the NHL leading the league in points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d3hockey57 View Post
    We may never see a #1 vs #1 split poll game again.
    1. Both teams need to split in the polls
    2. Both teams only have a 25 game schedule
    3. The schedule needs to line up perfectly when both teams are ranked #1

    I don't know what is a more rare situation, this #1 vs #1 game, or a first year expansion team in the NHL leading the league in points.
    They played each other a couple of years ago in a similar situation, except I think they were both #1 in the same poll (first place votes split 10/10).

    Edit: SNC was #1 and Adrian was #2 and they split the weekend series. The following poll had them joint #1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Coughlin View Post
    SNC is still #1 in the D3Hockey poll. Looking forward to the #1 vs #1 matchup on Friday.
    I'm going to go out on a limb, and say this is the Game of the Week.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Coughlin View Post
    They played each other a couple of years ago in a similar situation, except I think they were both #1 in the same poll (first place votes split 10/10).

    Edit: SNC was #1 and Adrian was #2 and they split the weekend series. The following poll had them joint #1.
    Fun fact from SNC SID, Dan Lukes: Friday's game marks the seventh time in the last four years that SNC and Adrian have met in a #1 vs #2 game as determined by the USCHO poll.....
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    Re: D3 Polls - 2017-18

    #9 UNE got a first place vote in the d3hockey poll

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcase View Post
    #9 UNE got a first place vote in the d3hockey poll
    Who are they playing this week?

    Does Becker have a vote?

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    The results of this poll just prove why there are polls in the first place. Polls are designed to create conversation and good polls are designed to create controversy.

    How could UNE get one first place vote with losses to Salve (2) and Johnson & Wales (?!) and a tie vs Nichols.

    Not sure how Nichols was excluded from any mention given to total victory on Friday night vs Endicott.

    Nice to see the CCC well represented among the more established conferences in the top 15. A big weekend for some of the ranked teams.

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    There are alot of teams recieving first place votes this week. Will Adrian collect all of them after the win Friday vs. St. NorbertS?

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