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    Quote Originally Posted by TchrBill View Post
    Elmira's goaltender was on her game. With 2 losses, the target is now off the Cardinals' backs, but that could be a blessing. Hard to stay #1 for so long, but my guess is no team wants to play the Cardinals. Plattsburgh's SOG was tremendous with some point-blank shots, so the effort was there. Some great puck movement on the pp as well. What concerns me most is the play of Brooke Wolejko. She is no Camille Leonard, and it shows. Anyone know her story? Why leave D-I St. Lawrence after 3 seasons?!
    because she wasn't going to play at SLU no matter how great she was for the U12 Northern Lights....and the incumbent at Platty was....lets just say 'untested'?

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    Freeloading marginal talent will not be missed.
    Haha....tell Blanchard, and....aw hell, yer too stupid to waste time on.

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    Re: 2017-18 DIII News, Game Notes, Etc

    Former Cortland coach Earl Utter has been hired to lead the new women's program at Wilkes. The team was supposed to launch this fall under Stephanie Newmark but was delayed due to low roster size.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott_TG View Post
    Former Cortland coach Earl Utter has been hired to lead the new women's program at Wilkes. The team was supposed to launch this fall under Stephanie Newmark but was delayed due to low roster size.
    Wow! A very uninspiring choice given my past interactions with him when he was at Cortland.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GTOWN View Post
    Wow! A very uninspiring choice given my past interactions with him when he was at Cortland.
    Lol, understatement of the year! The date on this announcement is September 26th, so over 2 months ago! Doesn't Wilkes know to send their announcements to uscho.com?! That coupled with this choice tells me they have no clue what they're doing. So what's the story of the first coach not being able to recruit enough players to field a team to play this season? This has all the markings of a really losing sitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shelfit View Post
    Lol, understatement of the year! The date on this announcement is September 26th, so over 2 months ago! Doesn't Wilkes know to send their announcements to uscho.com?! That coupled with this choice tells me they have no clue what they're doing. So what's the story of the first coach not being able to recruit enough players to field a team to play this season? This has all the markings of a really losing sitution.
    I actually edited my initial response because it was a little too harsh. I met coach Utter a few times when he was at Cortland. Have to say he was the least personable coach I've dealt with ( which may explain at least in part why he couldn't recruit).
    Agree with you on the whole delay issue due to lack of recruits. Even DW recruited enough girls to start the season. Many first year teams have short benches....

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTOWN View Post
    I actually edited my initial response because it was a little too harsh. I met coach Utter a few times when he was at Cortland. Have to say he was the least personable coach I've dealt with ( which may explain at least in part why he couldn't recruit).
    Agree with you on the whole delay issue due to lack of recruits. Even DW recruited enough girls to start the season. Many first year teams have short benches....
    My words were extremely kind too. He got canned after Cortland had their best season ever. What's that tell you?! My best advice for potential recruits is quite simple....run, don't walk, as fast as you can AWAY from this situation! You won't regret taking my advice.

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    I actually edited my initial response because it was a little too harsh. I met coach Utter a few times when he was at Cortland. Have to say he was the least personable coach I've dealt with ( which may explain at least in part why he couldn't recruit).
    Agree with you on the whole delay issue due to lack of recruits. Even DW recruited enough girls to start the season. Many first year teams have short benches....
    DW had a horrendously short bench even as short benches go. They finished with 6 skaters by the end of the 15-16 season. Newmark, who was supposed to be the head coach at Wilkes before they pulled the plug this year, was a coach for DW. My theory about the Wilkes situation was that because the coaches got away with it at DW, Newmark didn't expect the Wilkes brass would pull the plug just because she couldn't land X number of players. But Wilkes, who already delayed their men's program saw what was going down with the roster and decided they could cut the rink/ice time budget altogether and used the short bench as a (probably reasonable) pretext for delaying the women along with the men.

    I'm wondering 1) just how many recruits did they have at Wilkes this fall? 2) If that number was closer to the 12 players DW had to start in their last season would Wilkes have gone through with the season had they had their own rink instead of renting one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott_TG View Post
    DW had a horrendously short bench even as short benches go. They finished with 6 skaters by the end of the 15-16 season. Newmark, who was supposed to be the head coach at Wilkes before they pulled the plug this year, was a coach for DW. My theory about the Wilkes situation was that because the coaches got away with it at DW, Newmark didn't expect the Wilkes brass would pull the plug just because she couldn't land X number of players. But Wilkes, who already delayed their men's program saw what was going down with the roster and decided they could cut the rink/ice time budget altogether and used the short bench as a (probably reasonable) pretext for delaying the women along with the men.

    I'm wondering 1) just how many recruits did they have at Wilkes this fall? 2) If that number was closer to the 12 players DW had to start in their last season would Wilkes have gone through with the season had they had their own rink instead of renting one?

    At this level I think you need at least 14 skaters to start a program. Having said that, it should be fairly easy to find 14 skaters that want to play hockey. They may not be the best talent going but you don't expect to win much in the first few years of a program.
    It's just poor recruiting which by default means a poor coaching choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTOWN View Post
    At this level I think you need at least 14 skaters to start a program. Having said that, it should be fairly easy to find 14 skaters that want to play hockey. They may not be the best talent going but you don't expect to win much in the first few years of a program.
    It's just poor recruiting which by default means a poor coaching choice.
    Agreed, but to make such poor coaching choices two years in a row?! That tells me they don't have a clue what they're doing and that is not a good sign for potential recruits and their parents who will be paying for their D's education. If they choose Wilkes they'll be paying for that decision in more ways than one!

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    Re: 2017-18 DIII News, Game Notes, Etc

    Quote Originally Posted by GTOWN View Post
    Many first year teams have short benches....
    Elmira, granted in a different era, began their program, and won back to back NCAA DIII titles in the first 2 seasons of play...
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    Quote Originally Posted by obserbear View Post
    Elmira, granted in a different era, began their program, and won back to back NCAA DIII titles in the first 2 seasons of play...
    Can you say, "Apples & Oranges"?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by obserbear View Post
    Elmira, granted in a different era, began their program, and won back to back NCAA DIII titles in the first 2 seasons of play...
    Endicott... currently in its 3rd year as varsity but top 10 ranked last spring

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    Quote Originally Posted by obserbear View Post
    Elmira, granted in a different era, began their program, and won back to back NCAA DIII titles in the first 2 seasons of play...

    It's a little before my time but given their commitment to women's hockey, I'm going to guess they had a very strong school commitment to the program from the start.
    And as you mentioned a different era, but still possible at least.

    Even Northland was able to field a full roster in their first year and they're a small school in the middle of nowhere....

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    Endicott... currently in its 3rd year as varsity but top 10 ranked last spring
    Coach McPhee has done a very good job at Endicott. He's enthusiastic and dedicated to recruiting. I thought Coach Lewis did a good job over at Johnson and Wales for the 2 years she was there, putting a hard-working team on the ice. A unique team too, as I recall, w/ a number of Swedish players on it.

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    Re: 2017-18 DIII News, Game Notes, Etc

    Hey just wondering after reading some of these interesting posts regarding DIII hockey, do these schools give out scholarships or financial aid ? And does a DIII commitment page/thread exist ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by slapshot willy View Post
    Hey just wondering after reading some of these interesting posts regarding DIII hockey, do these schools give out scholarships or financial aid ? And does a DIII commitment page/thread exist ??
    No scholarships, just aid. The aid must be in proportion to the aid given to the student body. For example, giving financial aid to the 20 Canadians on the hockey team, but not the 80 Canadians in the physics department is a no no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genbeau View Post
    Coach McPhee has done a very good job at Endicott. He's enthusiastic and dedicated to recruiting. I thought Coach Lewis did a good job over at Johnson and Wales for the 2 years she was there, putting a hard-working team on the ice. A unique team too, as I recall, w/ a number of Swedish players on it.
    Endicott did a great recruiting job even here out west. The daughter got recruited by that school and was very impressed with the effort, just decided that she didn't want to go that far from home. But you got that impression that they were serious and intended to do the program right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    No scholarships, just aid. The aid must be in proportion to the aid given to the student body. For example, giving financial aid to the 20 Canadians on the hockey team, but not the 80 Canadians in the physics department is a no no.
    There is a little black magic in the process. They can "stretch" the financial aid a touch, when they hand out merit scholarships most schools have a range of money for a certain GPA. Finally there's the on campus or residence job that the player just happens to get.....

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    Re: 2017-18 DIII News, Game Notes, Etc

    Some nice matchups on tap this weekend.

    Middlebury/Conn. College play 2.

    St. Thomas and Augsburg in a home and home series. We'll see if the Auggies are for real this year with that 6-1 start.

    Gustavus Adolphus/River Falls play next Wednesday in a big one.
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