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  • Re: 122 Franchises Ranked Bottom to Top:

    Originally posted by joecct View Post
    The 1976 East All American goalie had a .896 Save % and 3.62 GAA.
    Hayward and Eliot were All American with similar numbers.
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    • Re: 122 Franchises Ranked Bottom to Top:

      Originally posted by joecct View Post
      10 minutes back then.
      Are you sure? My records say 20.
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      • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
        Are you sure? My records say 20.
        10. NCAA OTs didn't go to 20 minutes until the 90s.
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        • Re: 122 Franchises Ranked Bottom to Top:

          Originally posted by joecct View Post
          10. NCAA OTs didn't go to 20 minutes until the 90s.
          Do you know the years this applies? I could use that to correct my records.

          I recall 10 minute overtimes when ties were allowed (as opposed to 5 now), but full overtimes when the game had to be decided.
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          • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
            Do you know the years this applies? I could use that to correct my records.

            I recall 10 minute overtimes when ties were allowed (as opposed to 5 now), but full overtimes when the game had to be decided.
            Originally posted by Kepler View Post
            Do you know the years this applies? I could use that to correct my records.

            I recall 10 minute overtimes when ties were allowed (as opposed to 5 now), but full overtimes when the game had to be decided.
            Paging Sean Pickett....

            But the 1991 NCAA final was 10 minute OTs.

            http://www.uscho.com/stats/longest-games/
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            • Re: 122 Franchises Ranked Bottom to Top:

              Originally posted by joecct View Post
              Paging Sean Pickett....

              But the 1991 NCAA final was 10 minute OTs.

              http://www.uscho.com/stats/longest-games/
              Were the ECAC rules the same as the NC$$s for the entire period?

              Were overtimes always ten minutes from 1949 up until whenever they switched, and did the NC$$ and ECAC switch at the same time?

              And who the hell is Sean Pickett?
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              • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                Were the ECAC rules the same as the NC$$s for the entire period?

                Were overtimes always ten minutes from 1949 up until whenever they switched, and did the NC$$ and ECAC switch at the same time?

                And who the hell is Sean Pickett?
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                • Re: 122 Franchises Ranked Bottom to Top:

                  Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                  So, the Twins are behind the Houstan Texans? Really?
                  Originally posted by JF_Gophers View Post
                  Hes not using the maths. Just his personal biases.
                  Agreed. There is a lot of shock value also included in the rankings. As much as he likes to rag on about the Senators, the Twins franchise has a .480 winning percentage in their history. That's 20th in baseball history. Coupled with 3 World Series titles and 6 pennants, and there is no way the Twins are the third worst baseball franchise. He ranks the following MLB teams ahead of the Twins:

                  San Diego Padres: All-time worst winning percentage, 0 World Series Titles, 2 pennants;
                  Colorado Rockies: 3rd worst winning percentage, 0 World Series Titles, 1 pennant; and
                  Washington Nationals: 0 World Series appearances (to go with a .487 winning percentage).

                  That's lunacy. Using his logic though, my guess is we'll see the Boston Red Sox coming up shortly (after the Cubs) due to their historic World Series droughts. Actual results be ****ed!!

                  Fortunately, I have applied my formula to baseball, and will have an appropriate set of rankings in the MLB thread this offseason.
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                  • Re: 122 Franchises Ranked Bottom to Top:

                    Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
                    Fortunately, I have applied my formula to baseball, and will have an appropriate set of rankings in the MLB thread this offseason.
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                    • Re: 122 Franchises Ranked Bottom to Top:

                      Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
                      Fortunately, I have applied my formula to baseball, and will have an appropriate set of rankings in the MLB thread this offseason.
                      After arduous effort:

                      Baseball franchises ranked 1 to 30.
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                      • Re: 122 Franchises Ranked Bottom to Top:

                        Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                        After arduous effort:

                        Baseball franchises ranked 1 to 30.
                        An alternate (IMO, better) method is to take the second table and sort by Won.

                        1. New York (AL)
                        2. St. Louis
                        3. New York - San Francisco
                        4. Boston
                        5. Brooklyn - Los Angeles
                        6. Philadelphia - Kansas City - Oakland
                        7. Detroit
                        8. Cincinnati
                        9. Boston - Milwaukee - Atlanta
                        10. Pittsburgh
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                        • Re: 122 Franchises Ranked Bottom to Top:

                          Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          Do you know the years this applies? I could use that to correct my records.

                          I recall 10 minute overtimes when ties were allowed (as opposed to 5 now), but full overtimes when the game had to be decided.
                          We, including I, may be getting some stuff confused here.

                          Yes, at a certain time (like when I was in school) regular season games had 10-minute overtimes.

                          Also, at a certain time, NCAA playoff games had 10-minute overtimes, even though they played them until someone scored.

                          But as for conferences, I am wondering if they used different rules for their playoff games. I doubt the NCAA would care, because again being the playoffs, they were going to play till someone scored, so how long the particular overtime periods were wouldn't matter.

                          I say this because I do recall the conference my school was in (Division II ECAC West) did use 20-minute overtimes for their playoffs, and I think (the key point here is when did the NCAA flip from 10 to 20-minute overtimes?) the NCAA still had 10-minute overtimes that year.
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                          • Re: 122 Franchises Ranked Bottom to Top:

                            106. Sacramento Kings

                            (a.k.a. Kansas City Kings, Kansas City-Omaha Kings, Cincinnati Royals, Rochester Royals)
                            Why?...The NBA’s longest championship drought is right here, the Kings won as the Rochester Royals in 1951 back when they played at bingo halls and YMCA’s.

                            The Good....The Kings did have a great run in the early 2000s, became enough of a rival that Shaq referred to them as “the Sacramento Queens”. Oscar Robertson averaged a triple-double in the 1962 season.

                            The Bad.....Have missed the playoffs in their last 11 seasons, have only advanced in the playoffs four times in the last 50 years (2001-2004)

                            The Ugly...they should have been in the NBA Finals in 2002, but lost to the Lakers in a game many thought was rigged. This franchise had made recent attempts to move to Anaheim and Seattle both blocked by NBA. A new area has quieted any talk about moving.

                            Where they play? Golden 1 Center. No announcement of Brown 2 Center in the back.

                            Owner: Vivek Ranadive, made his money in the Silicon Valley, bought a portion of the Golden State Warriors in 2010, then sold his shares before buying the majority of the Kings in 2013. Ranadive made the suggestion of keeping one defensive player back letting the other team play 5 on 4….hmmm.

                            Coach: Dave Joerger, the Kings decided to hire him two days after the Memphis Grizzlies fired him. When you’re a bad team you might as well recycle a coach.

                            Top Current Players: Willie Cauley-Stein, Vince Carter (he’s still in the league?) Zach Randolph (him too?!?)

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                            • Re: 122 Franchises Ranked Bottom to Top:

                              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                              And who the hell is Sean Pickett?
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                              Originally posted by joecct View Post
                              Paging Sean Pickett....

                              But the 1991 NCAA final was 10 minute OTs.

                              http://www.uscho.com/stats/longest-games/
                              Joe emailed me about this, so I check the rules. Tournament overtimes were changed from 10 to 20 minutes for the 1992-93 season according to the
                              1993 NCAA Men's Ice Hockey Rules. This included all in-season tournament games that needed a winner as well as post season games.

                              I'm missing most of the Rules for the 80's and 90's, but the first reference to tournament overtimes I found was in the 1991 Rules, when they were set at 10 minutes. In the 1987 and all early rules books I own there is no mention of tournament overtime, only the standard single 10 minute sudden death overtime that can end in a tie.

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                              • Re: 122 Franchises Ranked Bottom to Top:

                                Originally posted by CommAvHusky View Post
                                106. Sacramento Kings

                                (a.k.a. Kansas City Kings, Kansas City-Omaha Kings, Cincinnati Royals, Rochester Royals)
                                Why?...The NBA’s longest championship drought is right here, the Kings won as the Rochester Royals in 1951 back when they played at bingo halls and YMCA’s.
                                That banner still hangs in the Blue Cross Arena in downtown Rochester, NY.
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