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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    That game was historically f-cked up.

    Overtimes were 20-minutes. UNH scored 19 seconds into 2ot to win.
    10 minutes back then.

    Bobby Gould on the breakaway. It was 70° in Boston that day and the Garden was a sauna.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    10 minutes back then.
    Are you sure? My records say 20.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    Are you sure? My records say 20.
    10. NCAA OTs didn't go to 20 minutes until the 90s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    10. NCAA OTs didn't go to 20 minutes until the 90s.
    Do you know the years this applies? I could use that to correct my records.

    I recall 10 minute overtimes when ties were allowed (as opposed to 5 now), but full overtimes when the game had to be decided.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    Do you know the years this applies? I could use that to correct my records.

    I recall 10 minute overtimes when ties were allowed (as opposed to 5 now), but full overtimes when the game had to be decided.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    Do you know the years this applies? I could use that to correct my records.

    I recall 10 minute overtimes when ties were allowed (as opposed to 5 now), but full overtimes when the game had to be decided.
    Paging Sean Pickett....

    But the 1991 NCAA final was 10 minute OTs.

    http://www.uscho.com/stats/longest-games/

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    Paging Sean Pickett....

    But the 1991 NCAA final was 10 minute OTs.

    http://www.uscho.com/stats/longest-games/
    Were the ECAC rules the same as the NC$$s for the entire period?

    Were overtimes always ten minutes from 1949 up until whenever they switched, and did the NC$$ and ECAC switch at the same time?

    And who the hell is Sean Pickett?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    Were the ECAC rules the same as the NC$$s for the entire period?

    Were overtimes always ten minutes from 1949 up until whenever they switched, and did the NC$$ and ECAC switch at the same time?

    And who the hell is Sean Pickett?
    BU poster who keeps track of this stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
    So, the Twins are behind the Houstan Texans? Really?
    Quote Originally Posted by JF_Gophers View Post
    Hes not using the maths. Just his personal biases.
    Agreed. There is a lot of shock value also included in the rankings. As much as he likes to rag on about the Senators, the Twins franchise has a .480 winning percentage in their history. That's 20th in baseball history. Coupled with 3 World Series titles and 6 pennants, and there is no way the Twins are the third worst baseball franchise. He ranks the following MLB teams ahead of the Twins:

    San Diego Padres: All-time worst winning percentage, 0 World Series Titles, 2 pennants;
    Colorado Rockies: 3rd worst winning percentage, 0 World Series Titles, 1 pennant; and
    Washington Nationals: 0 World Series appearances (to go with a .487 winning percentage).

    That's lunacy. Using his logic though, my guess is we'll see the Boston Red Sox coming up shortly (after the Cubs) due to their historic World Series droughts. Actual results be ****ed!!

    Fortunately, I have applied my formula to baseball, and will have an appropriate set of rankings in the MLB thread this offseason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
    Fortunately, I have applied my formula to baseball, and will have an appropriate set of rankings in the MLB thread this offseason.
    well let us hope then that whomever is up 3-2 wins game 6!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
    Fortunately, I have applied my formula to baseball, and will have an appropriate set of rankings in the MLB thread this offseason.
    After arduous effort:

    Baseball franchises ranked 1 to 30.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    After arduous effort:

    Baseball franchises ranked 1 to 30.
    An alternate (IMO, better) method is to take the second table and sort by Won.

    1. New York (AL)
    2. St. Louis
    3. New York - San Francisco
    4. Boston
    5. Brooklyn - Los Angeles
    6. Philadelphia - Kansas City - Oakland
    7. Detroit
    8. Cincinnati
    9. Boston - Milwaukee - Atlanta
    10. Pittsburgh
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    Re: 122 Franchises Ranked Bottom to Top:

    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    Do you know the years this applies? I could use that to correct my records.

    I recall 10 minute overtimes when ties were allowed (as opposed to 5 now), but full overtimes when the game had to be decided.
    We, including I, may be getting some stuff confused here.

    Yes, at a certain time (like when I was in school) regular season games had 10-minute overtimes.

    Also, at a certain time, NCAA playoff games had 10-minute overtimes, even though they played them until someone scored.

    But as for conferences, I am wondering if they used different rules for their playoff games. I doubt the NCAA would care, because again being the playoffs, they were going to play till someone scored, so how long the particular overtime periods were wouldn't matter.

    I say this because I do recall the conference my school was in (Division II ECAC West) did use 20-minute overtimes for their playoffs, and I think (the key point here is when did the NCAA flip from 10 to 20-minute overtimes?) the NCAA still had 10-minute overtimes that year.
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    106. Sacramento Kings

    (a.k.a. Kansas City Kings, Kansas City-Omaha Kings, Cincinnati Royals, Rochester Royals)
    Why?...The NBA’s longest championship drought is right here, the Kings won as the Rochester Royals in 1951 back when they played at bingo halls and YMCA’s.

    The Good....The Kings did have a great run in the early 2000s, became enough of a rival that Shaq referred to them as “the Sacramento Queens”. Oscar Robertson averaged a triple-double in the 1962 season.

    The Bad.....Have missed the playoffs in their last 11 seasons, have only advanced in the playoffs four times in the last 50 years (2001-2004)

    The Ugly...they should have been in the NBA Finals in 2002, but lost to the Lakers in a game many thought was rigged. This franchise had made recent attempts to move to Anaheim and Seattle both blocked by NBA. A new area has quieted any talk about moving.

    Where they play? Golden 1 Center. No announcement of Brown 2 Center in the back.

    Owner: Vivek Ranadive, made his money in the Silicon Valley, bought a portion of the Golden State Warriors in 2010, then sold his shares before buying the majority of the Kings in 2013. Ranadive made the suggestion of keeping one defensive player back letting the other team play 5 on 4….hmmm.

    Coach: Dave Joerger, the Kings decided to hire him two days after the Memphis Grizzlies fired him. When you’re a bad team you might as well recycle a coach.

    Top Current Players: Willie Cauley-Stein, Vince Carter (he’s still in the league?) Zach Randolph (him too?!?)

    Hall of Famers…several, Oscar Robertson is the one that stands out the most, Nate Archibald, Jerry Lucas, Mitch Richmond among others.
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    And who the hell is Sean Pickett?
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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    Paging Sean Pickett....

    But the 1991 NCAA final was 10 minute OTs.

    http://www.uscho.com/stats/longest-games/
    Joe emailed me about this, so I check the rules. Tournament overtimes were changed from 10 to 20 minutes for the 1992-93 season according to the
    1993 NCAA Men's Ice Hockey Rules. This included all in-season tournament games that needed a winner as well as post season games.

    I'm missing most of the Rules for the 80's and 90's, but the first reference to tournament overtimes I found was in the 1991 Rules, when they were set at 10 minutes. In the 1987 and all early rules books I own there is no mention of tournament overtime, only the standard single 10 minute sudden death overtime that can end in a tie.

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    106. Sacramento Kings

    (a.k.a. Kansas City Kings, Kansas City-Omaha Kings, Cincinnati Royals, Rochester Royals)
    Why?...The NBA’s longest championship drought is right here, the Kings won as the Rochester Royals in 1951 back when they played at bingo halls and YMCA’s.
    That banner still hangs in the Blue Cross Arena in downtown Rochester, NY.
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    That banner still hangs in the Blue Cross Arena in downtown Rochester, NY.
    Pretty sure Stephen Curry could beat them 1-on-5.

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    105. Atlanta Falcons

    Why?...28-3…smh

    The Good….Two NFC Championships…had Deion Sanders in his prime

    The Bad....Where to begin, 1 playoff win in the first 25 seasons of the franchise. It took till 2009 for the Falcons to complete two consecutive winning seasons.

    The Ugly...They drafted Brett Favre, then proceded to trade him to Green Bay for a draft pick a year later.

    Where they play? Mercedes-Benz Stadium, often compared to Megatron’s anus. I do find that they only played in the Georgia Dome for 25 years before building a new stadium.

    Owner: Arthur Blank: Founder of The Home Depot, famous for looking like a Vaudeville Bad Guy

    Coach: Dan Quinn, a formidable Defensive Coach, this is first head coaching job.

    Top Current Players: Julio Jones, Matt Ryan, Tevin Coleman, Devanta Freeman

    Hall of Famers…Deion Sanders, Claude Humphrey,
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    It took till 2009 for the Falcons to complete two consecutive winning seasons.
    Wow. I... did not know that.

    I always think of the Falcons as the prototypical 8-8 team. Never dominant but never to be taken lightly. That has felt true since the 70s and Steve Bartkowski.

    They're the NFC Houston Oilers.
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    104. Arizona Coyotes

    a.k.a as Phoenix Coyotes, Winnipeg Jets
    Why?...a team that in theory should’ve stayed in Winnipeg in the first place, currently on NHL welfare.

    The Good….Did make the Western Conference Finals once in 2012. Famous for its “white outs” during their Winnipeg days, the tradition continues on the occasional Coyote playoff game.

    The Bad....Just one appearance to the Conference Finals since 1980?

    The Ugly...The NHL hasn’t admitted that hockey in Phoenix is a failure, the team isn’t terrible just lackluster. This year’s team is terrible though.

    Where they play? Gila River Arena, which I guess is part of the Native American Casino racket?

    Owner: Andrew Barroway, a hedge fund manager, who is not making any money with this team.

    Coach: Rick Tocchet, a former bruiser and scorer who played on several teams. Convicted degenerate gambler.

    Top Current Players: Clayton Keller and Max Domi

    Hall of Famers…Mike Gartner and Brett Hull had cups of coffee here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommAvHusky View Post
    104. Arizona Coyotes
    You forgot the one notable thing about this franchise. They have the only attractive sports logo designed since 1980.

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