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  • Re: 122 Franchises Ranked Bottom to Top:

    Originally posted by Russell Jaslow View Post
    Who considers Phil a Black Hawks (I like how you spelled the name correctly based on what years you were talking about them) Hall of Famer? He made his hall of fame career with Boston (and a bit with the Rangers). Heck, most people don't even know Phil started in Chicago.
    Speaking as a confident hater of all things Boston, yes. Tony is Chi; Phil is Boston. Might as well give Ray Bourque to Denver.

    For that matter, Chelios is un Hab. Chi and Det were just renting his services.
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    • Re: 122 Franchises Ranked Bottom to Top:

      29. Oklahoma City Thunder

      (a.k.a. Seattle Supersonics)
      Why? Not many people are willing to relocate from Seattle to Oklahoma City but well here we are.

      The Good. As the Sonics, they won the NBA Championship in 1978, 4 Western Conference Championships (1979, 1996, 2012)

      The Bad. Typical expansion pains, and very poor play during the transition period in the late 2000’s

      The Ugly. Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz, tried to get the state government to pay for renovations to Key Arena. Schultz sold the Sonics to a group led by Clay Bennett under the condition that he try in good faith keep the team in Seattle. Bennett proposed a $500 million taxpayer funded arena that the local government denied. Bennett in turn made the effort to move the Sonics to Oklahoma City. New ownership would be breaking the lease on Key Arena two years early. Despite lawsuits and massive local opposition, the franchise moved, Seattle got to keep the “Sonics” name and colors, all records would belong to the Oklahoma City Thunder

      Where they play. Chesapeake Energy Arena, sounds more appropriate for an arena in Maryland. As the Ford Center, Oklahoma City fans got an appetite for the NBA when the Hornets couldn’t play in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina.

      Owner: Clay Bennett, probably not the most popular man in Seattle. When he headed a group of owners that blocked the Sacramento Kings relocation to Seattle years later, you really know this guy is not well liked in Seattle

      Coach: Billy Donovan, coached the University of Florida for 19 seasons and second youngest head coach to win 500 games, currently in his third season with the Thunder.

      Top Current Players: Russell Westbrook, Paul George, and Carmelo Anthony

      Hall of Famers: Gary Payton, Lenny Wilkens, and Spencer Haywood

      Up Next: The Minnesota Vikings
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        28. Washington Redskins

        (a.k.a. Boston Redskins)
        Why? Probably the most controversial nickname in 2018, but if anyone complains about the name change, they should probably put a blanket on it.

        The Good. 3 Super Bowls and 2 NFL Championships. 5 NFC Championships (1972, 1982, 1983, 1987, and 1991)

        The Bad. Largely absent from the NFL scene after World War II until about the early 1970’s. This includes back to back one-win seasons in 1960 & 1961. Went from Super Bowl Champions to 4-12 in two seasons from 1991 to 1993. Have not one a playoff game since 2005.

        The Ugly. In 1940, the Redskins beat Chicago 7-3, owner Preston Marshall gave birth to the term “newspaper material” by telling the press that the Bears were a bunch of crybabies and quitters. Chicago coach George Halas used the press clippings to remind his players what Marshall said. The Bears won the game 73-0. Still considered to be the most lopsided NFL Game in history. 73 points is the most for an NFL game in its history.

        Where they play. FedEx Field, originally called Jack Kent Cooke Stadium in 1997, in honor of the recently deceased owner. It replaced RFK Stadium that opened up as District of Columbia Stadium in 1961.

        Owner: Daniel Snyder bought the Redskins from the Cooke Estate in 1999 for a then record $800 million. Since Snyder took over the team has been 132-171-1 and has gone through eight head coaches in 17 seasons. Point being Snyder is a very bad hands-on owner.

        Coach: Jay Gruden, his playing career lists playing in the Arena League and the World League of American Football. Gruden just finished his fourth season with the Redskins, which under the Snyder regime is an eternity.

        Top Current Players: Kirk Cousins, Jamison Crowder, and Ryan Kerrigan

        Hall of Famers: Sonny Jurgenson, Ken Houston, Sammy Baugh, John Riggins, Chris Hanburger, Sam Huff, Art Monk, Turk Edwards, Darrell Green, Charley Taylor, and Russ Grimm

        Up Next: The Minnesota Vikings
        Last edited by CommAvHusky; 02-21-2018, 02:03 PM.
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        —H. L. Mencken

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          Sam Huff
          CCT '77 & '78
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          1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

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          • Re: 122 Franchises Ranked Bottom to Top:

            Originally posted by CommAvHusky View Post
            Hall of Famers: John Riggins
            I still can't believe the Jets traded him away.
            Last edited by Russell Jaslow; 02-22-2018, 11:00 AM.
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            • Re: 122 Franchises Ranked Bottom to Top:

              27. Detroit Tigers

              Why? This old school American League team is quite milky, not the crème of the crop but not the dregs either.

              The Good. 4 World Series Championships (1935, 1945, 1968, 1984), 11 American League Pennants (1907, 1908, 1909, 1934, 1940, 2006, 2012)

              The Bad. The Tigers had four 100+ loss seasons from 1989 to 2003

              The Ugly. The 2003 Detroit Tigers are worst MLB Team in the 21st Century. The Tigers lost 119 games, breaking the mark set by the 1916 Philadelphia A’s. Avoided ’62 Mets type futility by winning 5 of their last six games to end the season. Starting pitcher Mike Maroth lost 21 games, was the first time anyone lost 20 games in 20 years. Jeremy Bonderman lost 19, and Nate Cornejo lost 17. No else in the league lost more than 16.

              Where they play. Comerica Park, it replaced Tiger Stadium in 2000. Comerica Bank used to have their headquarters in Detroit, but still maintains a presence in the Detroit area.

              Owner: Chris Ilitch, took over the Tigers when his father Mike died last year. He founded Little Caesar’s Pizza. I guess its popular but I never eat pizza from a chain.

              Manager: Ron Gardenhire was hired in October replacing Brad Ausmus. Gardenhire is more known for managing the Minnesota Twins from 2002-2014 and was a coach with the Twins from 1991-2001.

              Top Current Players: Justin Verlander (ooops), Justin Upton, & Nicholas Castellanos

              Hall of Famers: Ty Cobb, Mickey Cochrane, Sam Crawford, Charlie Gehringer, Hank Greenberg, Harry Heilmann, Hughie Jennings, Al Kaline, George Kell, Heinie Manush, Hal Newhouser. Jack Morris and Alan Trammell are getting inducted this summer.

              Up Next: The Minnesota Vikings
              Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people.
              —H. L. Mencken

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              • Re: 122 Franchises Ranked Bottom to Top:

                You might be from Michigan if you regularly find yourself shouting, "Go Lions! And take the Tigers with you!"

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                  The biggest news out of Detroit this season is putting the hat logo on the jerseys, so this'll be a fun one.
                  Go Green! Go White! Go State!

                  1966, 1986, 2007

                  Go Tigers, Go Packers, Go Red Wings, Go Pistons

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                    26. Detroit Pistons

                    (a.k.a. Fort Wayne Pistons)
                    Why? I guess some people like bad boys

                    The Good. 3 NBA Championships (1989, 1990, 2004),

                    The Bad. Last original NBA team to win a championship, Irrelevant until the 1980’s. Since 2009, they have only had two first round exits.

                    The Ugly. While no one blames the Pistons moving from Fort Wayne to Detroit, it was alleged that Fort Wayne players were shaving points, almost halting a sport before it rose. It was alleged that the Pistons threw the 1955 NBA Finals. In 1954, Jack Molinas played one season for Fort Wayne, he was a standout from Columbia and it was found out that he was placing bets against the school to make payoffs for gangsters. Molinas was convicted in a major college basketball points shaving scheme in 1961. Molinas was killed in a mob hit in 1975.

                    Where they play. Little Caesar’s Arena where the Pistons are having their inaugural year. The Pizza! Pizza! Arena is in downtown Detroit, replaced their old home The Palace of Auburn Hills. The Pistons even played at the Pontiac Silverdome in the 1980’s.

                    Owner: Tom Gores, a businessman and investor, Gores is worth almost $4 billion. Goes bought the Pistons in 2011, after the death of Bill Davidson.

                    Coach: Stan Van Gundy, Van Gundy spent 11 seasons in Miami as both an assistant and head coach. Coached Orlando for five years winning the Eastern Conference Championshp in 2009. In his fourth season coaching the Pistons, while they haven’t done much this decade, the team is getting better.

                    Top Current Players: Newly acquired Blake Griffin, Andre Drummond, and Tobias Harris

                    Hall of Famers: Dave Bing, Bob Lanier, Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars, and Dennis Rodman,

                    Up Next: The Minnesota Vikings
                    Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people.
                    —H. L. Mencken

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                    • Re: 122 Franchises Ranked Bottom to Top:

                      Originally posted by CommAvHusky View Post
                      In 1954, Jack Molinas played one season for Fort Wayne, he was a standout from Columbia and it was found out that he was placing bets against the school to make payoffs for gangsters. Molinas was convicted in a major college basketball points shaving scheme in 1961. Molinas was killed in a mob hit in 1975.
                      He went to the same high school as my father.
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                      U.S. College Hockey Online

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                      • Re: 122 Franchises Ranked Bottom to Top:

                        Originally posted by CommAvHusky View Post
                        Owner: Tom Gores, a businessman and investor, Gores is worth almost $4 billion.
                        I wonder if anyone has ever explored why pizza billionaires, of all business people, are such as-shats. Oil men and bankers, that's obvious. But what is it about pizza that draws such f-ckstains?
                        Last edited by Kepler; 02-23-2018, 09:49 AM.
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                        • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                          I wonder if anyone has ever explored why pizza millionaires, of all business people, are such as-shats. Oil men and bankers, that's obvious. But what is it about pizza that draws such f-ckstains?
                          Ilich (Little Ceasars)
                          Monahan (Dominos)

                          Huh?
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                          4 kids
                          5 grandsons (BCA 7/09, CJA 5/14, JDL 8/14, JFL 6/16, PJL 7/18)
                          1 granddaughter (EML 4/18)

                          ”Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both.”
                          - Benjamin Franklin

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                          I want to live forever. So far, so good.

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                          • Re: 122 Franchises Ranked Bottom to Top:

                            Originally posted by joecct View Post
                            Ilich (Little Ceasars)
                            Monahan (Dominos)

                            Huh?
                            Ilitch seems to have been fine, even though he got in trouble with the FEC back when they actually did their job. The rest all seem to be cancer upright.

                            John Schnatter (Papa John's)
                            James Leprino (Leprino Foods)
                            Last edited by Kepler; 02-23-2018, 09:52 AM.
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                            ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
                            Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019, 2020

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                            • Originally posted by Kepler View Post
                              Ilitch seems to have been fine, even though he got in trouble with the FEC back when they actually did their job. The rest all seem to be cancer upright.

                              John Schnatter (Papa John's)
                              James Leprino (Leprino Foods)
                              He's talking about you linking to Gores, who is not involved in pizza.
                              Go Green! Go White! Go State!

                              1966, 1986, 2007

                              Go Tigers, Go Packers, Go Red Wings, Go Pistons

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                              • Re: 122 Franchises Ranked Bottom to Top:

                                Originally posted by CommAvHusky View Post
                                27. Detroit Tigers

                                Why? This old school American League team is quite milky, not the crème of the crop but not the dregs either.

                                The Good. 4 World Series Championships (1935, 1945, 1968, 1984), 11 American League Pennants (1907, 1908, 1909, 1934, 1940, 2006, 2012)

                                The Bad. The Tigers had four 100+ loss seasons from 1989 to 2003

                                The Ugly. The 2003 Detroit Tigers are worst MLB Team in the 21st Century. The Tigers lost 119 games, breaking the mark set by the 1916 Philadelphia A’s. Avoided ’62 Mets type futility by winning 5 of their last six games to end the season. Starting pitcher Mike Maroth lost 21 games, was the first time anyone lost 20 games in 20 years. Jeremy Bonderman lost 19, and Nate Cornejo lost 17. No else in the league lost more than 16.

                                Where they play. Comerica Park, it replaced Tiger Stadium in 2000. Comerica Bank used to have their headquarters in Detroit, but still maintains a presence in the Detroit area.

                                Owner: Chris Ilitch, took over the Tigers when his father Mike died last year. He founded Little Caesar’s Pizza. I guess its popular but I never eat pizza from a chain.

                                Manager: Ron Gardenhire was hired in October replacing Brad Ausmus. Gardenhire is more known for managing the Minnesota Twins from 2002-2014 and was a coach with the Twins from 1991-2001.

                                Top Current Players: Justin Verlander (ooops), Justin Upton, & Nicholas Castellanos

                                Hall of Famers: Ty Cobb, Mickey Cochrane, Sam Crawford, Charlie Gehringer, Hank Greenberg, Harry Heilmann, Hughie Jennings, Al Kaline, George Kell, Heinie Manush, Hal Newhouser. Jack Morris and Alan Trammell are getting inducted this summer.

                                Up Next: The Minnesota Vikings
                                Wait...didn't I just see Justin Upton in the World Series pitching for Houston?

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