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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    "Stand up and shout it, go Nystrom and Howatt!"

    Gillies also famously destroyed Terry O'Reilly indvidually and the Bruins collectively, and he beat Tiger Williams and didn't contract either syphilis or mange for having touched him.
    I wish I had video of Steve Vickers one punch knock out of Don Marcotte.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    I wish I had video of Steve Vickers one punch knock out of Don Marcotte.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    Ask and you shall receive.
    Just a perspective - I was a senior in HS when this went down.

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    Re: 122 Franchises Ranked Bottom to Top:

    More perspective: Islanders vs Bruins 1980 Stanley Cup Quarterfinals.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWmxok_nVaE

    then

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch5OHA55fXA
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommAvHusky View Post
    More perspective: Islanders vs Bruins 1980 Stanley Cup Quarterfinals.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWmxok_nVaE

    then

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch5OHA55fXA
    I saw a 4 goalie fight in Portland. It was hilarious.

    But my favorite moment was a bench clearing brawl where everyone paired off while the goalies, who had been youth hockey friends, just passed the puck back and forth end to end, deftly avoiding all the fights and bodies down on the ice. The linesmen were laughing so hard they got distracted and stopped breaking up the fights. IINM one of the coaches was Mike Babcock, an institution for the Spokane Chiefs.
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    14. New England Patriots

    (a.k.a. Boston Patriots)
    Why? Could easily be the #1 team in this thread, but you have to count their play from before 2001 as well.

    The Good. Five Super Bowls, 10 AFC Championships (1985, 1996, 2001, 2003, 2004, 2007, 2011, 2014, 2016, 2017). Only NFL team to finish the regular season 16-0 (2007).

    The Bad. Did not win a NFL playoff game until 1985. First AFC team to go 1-15 in 1990. Went 19-61 from 1989-1993.

    The Ugly: Up until 1994, the Patriots had very shaky ownership. In the 1960’s the Patriots did not have a permanent home until they moved to Foxboro in 1971. Originally owned by the Sullivan Family, the team was bought by Victor Kiam in 1988. Kiam owned and was a pitchman for Remington razors. The buying of the Patriots did not include the stadium. Robert Kraft bought the Stadium in bankruptcy. In 1990, Boston Herald reporter Lisa Olson, sued Kiam and Patriot tight end Zeke Mowatt, when Mowatt exposed himself in the locker room. Kiam defended Mowatt in a series of missteps to damper his reputation. Facing bankruptcy Kiam sold the team to James Orthwein in 1992. Orthwein attempted to move the Patriots to St. Louis. The attempt to get out of the Foxboro Stadium lease was derailed as Kraft used a hostile takeover to buy the Patriots. Orthwein had no interest in the team if it could not leave New England.

    Where they play. Gillette Stadium replaced Foxboro Stadium in 2002, originally to be called CMGI Field before the dotcom bubble burst. There were proposals to relocate to Hartford and Providence in attempt to get some taxpayer funded help for a new stadium. Agreements were made and the new stadium was built adjacent to the old one.

    Owner: Robert Kraft, credited with keeping the Patriots in New England. Did not father a child at age 76.

    Coach: Bill Belichick, signed satanic pact in 2000.

    Top Current Players: Tom Brady, Rob Gronkowski, Unlimited list of scrappy white wide receivers.

    Hall of Famers: John Hannah, Nick Buoniconti, Mike Haynes, and Andre Tippett,
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommAvHusky View Post
    14. New England Patriots

    ... In 1990, Boston Herald reporter Lisa Olson, sued Kiam and Patriot tight end Zeke Mowatt, when Mowatt exposed himself in the locker room. Kiam defended Mowatt in a series of missteps to damper his reputation. ...
    I still remember the “joke” he told at a public meeting:

    How are Lisa Olson and Saddam Hussein alike?

    They’ve both seen a Patriot missile up close.

    Tone deaf even in 1990.

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    13. Denver Broncos

    Why? When a famous quarterback tries to be in charge in a suit rather than on the gridiron.

    The Good. Three Super Bowls, eight AFC Championships (1977, 1986, 1987, 1989, 1997, 1998, 2013, 2015). Highest winning percentage in the NFL since 1984.

    The Bad. Did not reach the playoffs until 1977.

    The Ugly: Orange Crushed. The Bronco’s primary color is orange; no other pro team in sports represents the color orange more than the Denver Broncos. When the Broncos wear orange in the Super Bowl, they always get crushed. The Broncos first appeared in Super Bowl XII against Dallas. They lost 27-10, quarterback Craig Morton was intercepted four times, in what many consider the worst Super Bowl ever played. Ten years later, led by John Elway in Super Bowl XXII, the Broncos led Washington 10-0, only to allow 35 points in the second quarter alone, to an eventual 42-10 defeat. Wearing orange again two years later, Denver was creamed by San Francisco 55-10 in what is considered the biggest blowout in Super Bowl history. In the late 1990’s Denver changed their logo and made navy blue their primary color, winning two Super Bowls in the twilight of Elway’s career. After picking up Peyton Manning, the Broncos played in Super Bowl XLVIII; they returned to wearing orange again and were crushed by Seattle 34-8. Two years later, the Broncos appeared in Super Bowl L and elected to wear white, they beat Carolina 27-10. In the four super bowls in which the Broncos wore orange, they lost all four games by a combined score of 158-38. They won three of four Super Bowls, in which they did not wear orange.

    Where they play. Sports Authority Field at Mile High, built in 2001 replacing Mile High Stadium, Mile High is a term used to express Denver’s high altitude.

    Owner: Pat Bowlen Trust, Pat Bowlen along with his siblings bought the team in 1984. Bowlen stepped down in 2014 due to onset progression of his Alzheimer’s disease.

    Coach: Vance Joseph, a longtime defensive backs coach, finished his first season as head coach last year going 5-11. In fairness, he has seen bigger failures; he did play one season for the Jets under Rich Kotite.

    Top Current Players: Von Miller, Emmanuel Sanders, and Demaryius Thomas

    Hall of Famers: John Elway, Terrell Davis, Floyd Little, and Shannon Sharpe
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    12. San Francisco 49ers

    Why? How football was won using the West Coast Offense

    The Good. Five Super Bowls all within a 14-year period (1981-1994), won a sixth NFC Title in 2012.

    The Bad. Have not done very much before 1981, other than the Jim Harbaugh era not much has happened since 1994.

    The Ugly: While the 49ers dominance in the 1980’s and early 1990’s is well documented, they had to start at rock bottom in the late 1970’s. Niner management developed a habit of bringing on local talent in hopes of rejuvenating their careers in San Francisco. In 1975, the 49ers traded for Stanford alum and Heisman Trophy winner Jim Plunkett from New England. Plunkett struggled and was released two years later. Ironically, Plunkett ended up with the Raiders and won two Super Bowls. The 49ers then traded for Bay Area native O.J. Simpson who was at the twilight of his career. In 1978, the 49ers at 2-14 became the first non-expansion team to lose 14 games. Even worse, they would have had the #1 pick but it was given to Buffalo in the O.J. Simpson trade. New owner Eddie DeBartolo Jr. named Bill Walsh head coach, and the turnaround began.

    Where they play. Levi’s Stadium, 40 miles away from San Francisco in Santa Clara. Opened in 2014 to replace Candlestick Park

    Owner: CEO Jed York, Chairman John York and Denise DeBartolo-York. In 1998, the NFL suspended Eddie DeBartolo, Jr. This was due to a corruption case in Louisiana involving riverboat gambling. DeBartolo rather than come back as controlling owner ceded control to his sister Denise in a settlement in 2000.

    Coach: Kyle Shanahan, finished his first season with the 49ers. Shanahan is also the offensive coordinator as well. Shanahan was offensive coordinator for Atlanta during Super Bowl LI, you know the team whose offensive did not show up in the second half.

    Top Current Players: Jimmy Garoppolo, Pierre Garcon, and Elvis Dumervil

    Hall of Famers: Steve Young, Y.A. Tittle, Joe Montana, Joe Perry, Jimmy Johnson, Hugh McElhenny, Ronnie Lott, Dave Wilcox, Leo Nomellini, Bob St. Clair, Jerry Rice, Terrell Owens*, Charles Haley, Eddie DeBartolo, Jr. and Bill Walsh.
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    Re: 122 Franchises Ranked Bottom to Top:

    Because its long overdue.

    12 San Francisco 49ers
    13 Denver Broncos
    14 New England Patriots
    15 Philadelphia Flyers
    16 Miami Heat
    17 Boston Red Sox
    18 Baltimore Ravens
    19 Oakland Raiders
    20 Detroit Red Wings
    21 Miami Dolphins
    22 Pittsburgh Penguins
    23 Minnesota Vikings
    24 Chicago Bulls
    25 Boston Bruins
    26 Detroit Pistons
    27 Detroit Tigers
    28 Washington Redskins
    29 Oklahoma City Thunder
    30 Chicago Blackhawks
    31 Houston Rockets
    32 New York Giants
    33 Chicago Bears
    34 New Jersey Devils
    35 Seattle Seahawks
    36 Anaheim Ducks
    37 Kansas City Royals
    38 Indiana Pacers
    39 Dallas Stars
    40 Edmonton Oilers
    41 Toronto Blue Jays
    42 Portland Trailblazers
    43 Cincinnati Reds
    44 Calgary Flames
    45 New York Rangers
    46 Los Angeles Rams
    47 Oakland A's
    48 Atlanta Braves
    49 Golden State Warriors
    50 Cleveland Cavaliers
    51 Los Angeles Angels
    52 Utah Jazz
    53 Chicago White Sox
    54 Chicago Cubs
    55 Los Angeles Kings
    56 Indianapolis Colts
    57 Toronto Maple Leafs
    58 Carolina Hurricanes
    59 Cleveland Indians
    60 Phoenix Suns
    61 New York Knicks
    62 Dallas Mavericks
    63 Miami Marlins
    64 New York Islanders
    65 Philadelphia Eagles
    66 Colorado Avalanche
    67 Buffalo Bills
    68 Orlando Magic
    69 Baltimore Orioles
    70 Milwaukee Bucks
    71 San Jose Sharks
    72 Pittsburgh Pirates
    73 Colorado Rockies
    74 Houston Astros
    75 Vancouver Canucks
    76 New York Mets
    77 Philadelphia 76ers
    78 Buffalo Sabres
    79 Minnesota Wild
    80 Jacksonville Jaguars
    81 Tampa Bay Lightning
    82 Milwaukee Brewers
    83 St. Louis Blues
    84 Cleveland Browns
    85 Carolina Panthers
    86 Nashville Predators
    87 Arizona Diamondbacks
    88 New York Jets
    89 Washington Wizards
    90 Atlanta Hawks
    91 San Diego Chargers
    92 Ottawa Senators
    93 Washington Capitals
    94 Washington Nationals
    95 Texas Rangers
    96 Detroit Lions
    97 Toronto Raptors
    98 Denver Nuggets
    99 Philadelphia Phillies
    100 Florida Panthers
    101 Kansas City Chiefs
    102 New Orleans Pelicans
    103 San Diego Padres
    104 Arizona Coyotes
    105 Atlanta Falcons
    106 Sacramento Kings
    107 Houston Texans
    108 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
    109 Brooklyn Nets
    110 Minnesota Twins
    111 Charlotte Hornets
    112 Arizona Cardinals
    113 New Orleans Saints
    114 Winnipeg Jets
    115 Tennessee Titans
    116 Tampa Bay Rays
    117 Cincinnati Bengals
    118 Columbus Blue Jackets
    119 Memphis Grizzlies
    120 Minnesota Timberwolves
    121 Seattle Mariners
    122 Los Angeles Clippers
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    Just fodder now until we get to
    1) yankers
    2) stillers

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    Quote Originally Posted by mookie1995 View Post
    Just fodder now until we get to
    1) yankers
    2) Canadiens

    3) Lakers

    No pro football team remotely close to those three except Alabama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommAvHusky View Post
    12. San Francisco 49ers

    The 49ers then traded for Bay Area native O.J. Simpson who was at the twilight of his career.
    Didn't OJ get thrown out of his very last NFL game for fighting?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    2) Canadiens

    3) Lakers

    No pro football team remotely close to those three except Alabama.
    Agree. Celtics #4, even though I hate to admit that... Then maybe the Steelers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russell Jaslow View Post
    Agree. Celtics #4, even though I hate to admit that... Then maybe the Steelers.
    I think the Packers may top the Steelers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Russell Jaslow View Post
    Didn't OJ get thrown out of his very last NFL game for fighting?
    Not to my knowledge, he ran for two yards and fumbled (Niners still recovered), then ran for 10 yards. OJ was relieved that his last carry was not a fumble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommAvHusky View Post
    Not to my knowledge, he ran for two yards and fumbled (Niners still recovered), then ran for 10 yards. OJ was relieved that his last carry was not a fumble.
    "He knifed through his opponents so fast they couldn't lay a glove on him..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by joecct View Post
    "He knifed through his opponents so fast they couldn't lay a glove on him..."
    That's hardly fitting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    I think the Packers may top the Steelers.
    Pack won when coloreds were blackballed. Like teddy ballgame hitting .400

    Stillers are tops for football


    Plus candies cheated cause they had first dibs on Quebec farmers kids. Another unfair taint on their record

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    11. Green Bay Packers

    Why? Where the frozen tundra of Lambeau Field remains a hotbed for topless 300 pounders wearing cheese hats.

    The Good. NFL Championships galore (1929-1931, 1936, 1939, 1944, 1961-62, 1965-67) 4 Super Bowls, 3 NFC Championships (1996-97, 2010)

    The Bad, No winning seasons from 1948-1958, ’58 team went 1-10-1 before Vince Lombardi’s arrival. After Lombardi’s departure after Super Bowl II in 1968, the Packers only made the playoffs twice (1972 & 1982)

    The Ugly: After Vince Lombardi left and before Mike Holmgren was hired in 1992. The Packers had five head coaches, Phil Bengtson, Dan Devine, Bart Starr, Forrest Gregg, and Lindy Infante. Each coach had a worse record than his or her predecessor did.

    Four of the first five selections in the 1989 NFL Draft are now in the Hall of Fame. Dallas with Troy Aikman, Detroit with Barry Sanders, Kansas City with Derrick Thomas, Atlanta with Deion Sanders. Green Bay selected Tony Mandarich with the second pick of the draft. A hulking lineman from Michigan State. Sports Illustrated called him “the best offensive line prospect ever” is now considered a colossal bust. Mandarich was cut after three seasons, which was described as a “non-football injury”. Mandarich admitted at the time that he had drug and alcohol issues, he sobered up and played three seasons with Indianapolis. It was not until 2008 where Mandarich admitted to steroid use before arriving in the NFL.

    Where they play. Lambeau Field, the NFL’s longest tenured football field built in 1957 originally named City Stadium. Named after Curly Lambeau in 1965 two months after his death. The Packers played 2-4 home games in Milwaukee’s County Stadium from 1953-1994. The Packers never fully relocated to Milwaukee as the stadium was built primarily for baseball.

    Owner: Green Bay Packers, Inc. with Mark Murphy serving as chairman. The only team owned publicly, this practice was grandfathered in the modern NFL. No one is allowed more than 200,000 shares of stock out of 5 million.

    Coach: Mike McCarthy, finished his 12th season as Head Coach, it seems more that McCarthy is very dependent on his quarterback for his success.

    Top Current Players: Aaron Rodgers, Davante Adams, and Clay Matthews

    Hall of Famers: Herb Adderley, Tony Canadeo, Willie Davis, Brett Favre, Forrest Gregg, Arnie Herber, Clarke Hinkle, Paul Hornung, Don Hutson, Henry Jordan, Curly Lambeau, James Lofton, Ray Nitschke, Jim Ringo, Dave Robinson, Bart Starr, Jim Taylor, Reggie White, Willie Wood, and Vince Lombardi
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