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    5. St. Louis Cardinals

    Why? So sick of their media telling everybody how they play the right way.

    The Good. 11 World Series Championships (1926, 1931, 1934, 1942, 1944, 1946, 1964, 1967, 1982, 2006, 2011) 19 National League Pennants (1928, 1930, 1931, 1943, 1968, 1985, 1987, 2004, 2013)

    The Bad. Last National League team to win the pennant. Played rather dead ball in the dead ball era. Last place finish in 1990 was first since 1913.

    The Ugly: Again, this is a reach and I don’t consider what happened to be Darryl Kile, ugly. Tragic, yes. The Mark McGwire era? No, because the ugliness occurred after the fact.
    Before Bill Veeck, Charlie Finney, and George Steinbrenner, there was Chris van der Ahe. Von der Ahe was the first of many owners who knew nothing about baseball, but meddled in team affairs and kept a very vocal personality. He would always announce “I am der poss bresident of der Prowns!” With his bushy mustache and showmanship, von der Ahe was just as much a spectacle.
    Von der Ahe bought the scandal ridden St. Louis Brown Stockings in 1882 and joined the American Association. He hired Charles Comiskey to manage (yes the same guy who would own the White Sox later on). The Browns would dominate in the mid-1880s winning four pennants in a row. He set ticket prices low so that the fans would buy the beer he owned, this led to record attendance figures. In 1885, von der Ahe erected a statue of…himself outside the field that would be known as Sportsman’s Park. In 1892, the Browns joined the National League when the American Association folded. By then Comiskey lost patience with van der Awe’s antics and left. After his departure the Browns went into a tailspin.
    Von der Ahe tried to buy a new stadium, complete with amusement park, beer garden, and horse racing track in the outfield. Since the league prohibited gambling, they were not in favor of the horse track in the outfield. The facility was called “Von der Ha Ha”. As the Browns kept losing, von der Ahe started selling players. Part of the ballpark burned down during a ballgame. In a highly publicized trial, von der Ahe was broke and lost the team. Later on, von der Ahe finished his life as a bartender and passed on in 1913.
    To prevent confusion, the Browns became the Perfectos in 1899, since they wore Cardinal Red, the name was changed to Cardinals in 1900. The American League St. Louis Browns have no connection to von der Ahe, other than naming the team the Brown to invoke their successes in the mid-1880’s.

    Where they play. Busch Stadium, its third incarnation was built in 2006. It replaced the second Busch Stadium which was built in 1966. The original Busch Stadium, was originally Sportsman’s Park. Sportsman’s Park was actually the St. Louis Browns playing field but when the Busch Family bought the park, the Browns relocated to Baltimore. It was renamed Busch Stadium in 1953. The Busch Family originally wanted to call it Budweiser Stadium but that was vetoed by commissioner Ford Frick.

    Owner: William DeWitt Jr. became majority owner in 1995, investor who bought the team from Anheuser-Busch for $150 million. It should be noted that the last Busch Stadium was built entirely from private funds, a rarity in the modern day.

    Manager: Mike Matheny, a catcher with four gold gloves, just finished his sixth season managing the Cardinals.

    Top Current Players: Adam Wainwright, Yadier Molina, and Paul DeJong

    Hall of Famers: Lou Brock, Dizzy Dean, Bob Gibson, Whitey Herzog, Stan Musial, Red Schoendienst, Enos Slaughter, Ozzie Smith, Grover Cleveland Alexander, Jake Beckley, Jim Bottomley, Roger Bresnahan, Mordecai Brown, Frankie Frisch, Chick Hafey, Jesse Haines, Joe Medwick, Johnny Mize, Kid Nichols and Rogers Hornsby
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    I must object to the inclusion of Bill Veeck. He grew up in baseball as his father was President of the Cubs under owner Phil Wrigley.
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    6. San Antonio Spurs

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    The Ugly: This is really a reach, in 1987; the Spurs won the draft lottery and selected David Robinson from the Naval Academy. However, Robinson had to fulfill a two-year commitment with the Navy before playing. The Spurs lost 60 games in 1989. With Robinson in, the Spurs won 56 games the next season and were among the elite of the NBA until an injury plagued 1997, saw the Spurs lose 61 games, they won the lottery again and selected Tim Duncan, they have been in the NBA elite ever since. ...
    Yeah, that’s a reach, but it does point something out about how luck played a role in the Spurs success. It was bad luck that Robinson got hurt, but it was extremely good luck that when his injury caused them to tank, Tim Duncan was available and Robinson came back in close to pre-injury form.

    It’s also lucky that their good run came relatively early in their existence. I suspect fifty years from now they will have gone through a dry spell and they might rank somewhat lower. I know I think of them as one of the best-run modern franchises, but not an all-time great franchise.

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    4. Montreal Canadiens

    Why? The last remaining Francophone team. Sometimes though their fans are their own worst enemy.

    The Good. Credited with 25 Stanley Cups since 1919. The Canadiens Golden Age lasted from 1956 to 1979. In those 24 seasons, the Canadiens won 15 Stanley Cups, this includes winning five straight from 1956-1960, winning four out of five from 1965-1969, and winning four straight from 1976-1979.

    The Bad. The Canadiens have only won the Stanley Cup twice since 1979. Winning in 1986 and 1993 with Patrick Roy behind the net. However, in 1995, Roy was kept in during a home game in which the Canadiens lost 11-1 to Detroit. The fans gave mock cheers whenever Roy saved the puck. He told management he played his last game for Montreal. He was traded to Colorado for virtually nothing. Roy won the Stanley Cup at the end of the season with the Avalanche. The Canadiens, have faded since not even appearing in a Stanley Cup Final since that incident.

    The Ugly: Richard Riot. In 1955, Canadiens legend Maurice “Rocket” Richard got into an ugly incident at a road game in Boston. He was high-sticked by Hal Laycoe and had a bad cut on his face, he went to him and the referees tried to restrain Richard. The Rocket punched the ref twice, knocking him to the ground.
    Boston Police wanted to arrest Richard until the Bruins management persuaded the police to let the NHL handle it. After the attack, commissioner Clarence Campbell suspended Richard for the rest of the season. In English Canada, fans found the suspension just. In French Canada, though it was considered a miscarriage of justice. Campbell received death threats.
    It was advised that he not attend the next home game at the Montreal Forum. Instead, Campbell arrived at the Habs next home game and a fan extended his hand when Campbell reached to shake the fans hand, the fan instead slapped Campbell in the face, eggs, vegetables and other debris were thrown at Campbell, then a tear-gas bomb was set off a riot started in the arena and continued all over the city. The game ended up being a forfeit. $100,000 of property damage, a dozen injuries and over a hundred arrests later, Richard announced that he would accept the punishment and sit out the season.
    It should be noted that Richard had a bad temper, which other teams would agitate. Campbell and Richard did not care for each to begin with, Richard had a weekly column in a Montreal newspaper in which he often criticized Campbell. The riot was more than a suspension, but more a microcosm of a society that was minimalized by Anglo Canadians and Americans. Wages were low, and most businesses were not owned by French Canadians. Events like this started the Quiet Revolution in Quebec in the 1960’s.


    Where they play. Bell Centre, built in 1996 to replaced the revered Montreal Forum. Originally called Molson Centre, until the name like the beer was skunked out.

    Owner: Molson Family, Jeff Molson as CEO. The Molson Family traces its roots in Montreal from 1782. The Molsons have owned the team since 1957.

    Coach: Claude Julien, recorded one assist for the Quebec Nordiques in 1985. Previously coached Montreal from 2003-2006, one season for New Jersey, coached the Bruins for ten seasons including their one Stanley Cup win in 2011. Finished with Montreal last season after being fired by the Bruins.
    Worth noting that when Randy Cunneyworth was named interim head coach in 2011, it caused controversy with Francophones because Cunneyworth didn’t speak French. Nationalist groups called for a boycott of Molson products. The Molsons in turn vowed, that the next permanent coach would speak French.

    Top Current Players: Carey Price, Brendan Gallagher, and Max Pacioretty.

    Hall of Famers: Howie Morenz, Georges Vezina, Aurele Joliat, Newsy Lalonde, Joe Malone, Sprague Cleghorn, Herb Gardiner, Sylvio Mantha, Maurice Richard, Joe Hall, George Hainsworth, Reg Noble, Harry Cameron, Jimmy Gardner, Jack Laviolette, Didier Pitre, Babe Siebert, Bill Durnan, Marty Berry, Ken Reardon, Toe Blake, Emile Bouchard, Elmer Lach, Roy Worters, Tom Johnson, Jean Beliveau, Boom Boom Geoffrion, Doug Harvey, Tommy Smith, Dickie Moore, Gord Drillon, Jacques Plante, Henri Richard, Gump Worsely, Frank Mahovlich, Yyan Cournoyer, Ken Dryden, Jacques Lemaire, Bert Olmstead, Serge Savard, Jacques Laperriere, Guy LaFleur, Bob Gainey, Guy Lapointe, Steve Shutt, Larry Robinson, Denis Savard, Patrick Roy, Dick Duff, Chris Chelios, Dick Irvin, Frank Selke, Hartland Molson, Sam Pollock, Pat Burns, and Scotty Bowman.
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    3. Boston Celtics

    Why? When Celtic Pride gets awkward during the St. Patrick’s Day Parade in Southie.

    The Good. 17 NBA Championships (1957, 1959-66, 1968-69, 1974, 1976, 1981, 1984, 1986, 2008), 21 Conference Titles (1958, 1985, 1987, 2010). Won eight consecutive titles in an 8-9 team league. Went 40-1 at home in 1986.

    The Bad. 50 loss seasons in 1978 & 1979, after the death of Reggie Lewis, the Celtics had eight consecutive losing seasons. One NBA Championship since the death of Len Bias.

    The Ugly: The Celtics started to decline in the mid 1990’s. Larry Bird and Kevin McHale retired, Robert Parish was traded. Heir apparent Reggie Lewis fainted in a playoff game and died in a heart attack that offseason. Len Bias died of a cocaine overdose two days after being drafted in 1986. By 1997, the Celtics went 15-67, this is not the ugly part.

    Then owner Paul Gaston convinced college coach Rick Pitino to join the Celtics as Head Coach, General Manager, and director of Basketball Operations. It was controversial because he out elbowed legendary General Manager Red Auerbach. Pitino did have a successful past, leading Providence College to the Final Four, in two seasons with the New York Knicks, Pitino led them from last place to a division title. Pitino rescued the University of Kentucky from a tarnished program to National Champions in 1996.
    Pitino gambled that since the Celtics had the worst record, they would be able to draft Tim Duncan, San Antonio won the lottery draft and the Celtics ended up with the third pick which became Chauncey Billups. Pitino and Billups didn’t get along, and Billups was traded before the season ended. Billups became a five-time all star with other teams.
    After a heartbreaking loss to Toronto in 2000, Pitino gave this infamous speech.
    Larry Bird is not walking through that door, fans. Kevin McHale is not walking through that door, and Robert Parish is not walking through that door. And if you expect them to walk through that door, they’re going to be gray and old. What we are is young, exciting, hard-working, and we’re going to improve. People don’t realize that, and as soon as they realize those three guys are not coming through that door, the better this town will be for all of us because there are young guys in that (locker) room playing their asses off. I wish we had $90 million under the salary cap. I wish we could buy the world. We can’t; the only thing we can do is work hard, and all the negativity that’s in this town sucks. I’ve been around when Jim Rice was booed. I’ve been around when Yastrzemski was booed. And it stinks. It makes the greatest town, greatest city in the world, lousy. The only thing that will turn this around is being upbeat and positive like we are in that locker room… and if you think I’m going to succumb to negativity, you’re wrong. You’ve got the wrong guy leading this team.

    Pitino resigned a season later, to coach the University of Louisville.

    Where they play. TD Garden, along with the Boston Bruins, the Celtics moved in 1995 after leaving the decayed Boston Garden. The Celtics are famous for its parquet floor. The Celtics did play occasion games at the Hartford Civic Center up until the Boston Garden’s closure.

    Owner: Boston Basketball Partners, Wyc Grousbeck CEO. Along with his father his group bought the Celtics in 2002.

    Coach: Brad Stevens, coached underdog Butler University for six seasons before coming to the Celtics, currently in his fifth season.

    Top Current Players: Kyrie Irving, Al Horford, and Gordon Haywood (currently injured)

    Hall of Famers: Bob Cousy, John Havlicek, Dennis Johnson, Sam Jones, Ed Macauley, Don Nelson, Robert Parish, Satch Sanders, Jo Jo White, Larry Bird, Dave Cowens, Tom Heinsohn, KC Jones, Kevin McHale, Frank Ramsey, Bill Russell, Bill Sharman, and Red Auerbach.
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    2. Los Angeles Lakers

    (a.k.a.) Minneapolis Lakers
    Why? Showtime!

    The Good. 16 NBA Championships, 5 in Minneapolis (1949-50, 1952-54), 11 in Los Angeles (1972, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2000-02, 2009-10) 31 Conference Titles, 6 in Minneapolis, 25 in Los Angeles). 33 game winning streak in 1972 is an all-time professional sports record.

    The Bad. Last few seasons in Minneapolis were poor, on a current streak of missing the playoffs for the fifth straight year.

    The Ugly: The Punch. On December 9, 1977 the Lakers literally battled the Houston Rockets. Kermit Washington was a bruising power forward who complimented Kareem Abdul-Jabbar’s finesse at center. Kareem had been a target of cheap shots from other big men. Soon a physical altercation between Kareem, Washington, and Houston power forward Kevin Kunnert soon began. There are differing accounts as to what transpired but this is what we know is true, Washington saw Houston forward Rudy Tomjanovich running toward the altercation. Not knowing Tomjanovich was coming as a peacemaker, Washington punched Tomjanovich in the face and dropped to the floor filled with blood. His jaw and face was shattered.
    What worsened matters is that folks all over the country, only saw the replay of the punch and not the altercation that proceeded it, which made punch look very unprovoked. The NBA of 1977 was more tape delay on tv rather than live action so really only the folks at the game witnesses the entire scene.
    Washington was fined $10,000 and suspended 60 days, (26 games). Tomjanovich missed the rest of the season. The Lakers rather than deal with Washington traded him two weeks later to Boston. Washington continued to play in the league until 1982. Tomjanovich made a full recovery but only played until 1981. Younger fans will remember him more for his coaching days with Houston in the 1990’s.
    The NBA of the 1970’s was very physical with punches very common, this incident helped pave the way for a faster, high tempo, and much more cleaner game. For the Lakers, the late 1970’s were good but the addition of Magic Johnson and the beginning of the “showtime” era is when the Lakers shined through.

    Where they play. Staples Center, built in 1999, replacing The Forum where the Lakers started playing in 1967.

    Owner: Buss Family Trusts, Jeanie Buss as president. Daughter of Dr. Jerry Buss who owned the Lakers since 1979. Buss died in 2013. Jeanie first married Olympian Steve Timmons, posed nude for playboy. She also dated Hall of Fame coach Phil Jackson for 17 years up until 2016.

    Coach: Luke Walton, son of Hall of Famer Bill Walton, is currently in his second season as coach of the Lakers. Walton played for 10 seasons, 9 of them with the Lakers.

    Top Current Players: Brandon Ingram, Julius Randle, and Larry Nance, Jr.

    Hall of Famers: Wilt Chamberlain, Jim Pollard, Vern Mikkelsen, Elgin Baylor, Slater Martin, Gail Goodrich, Magic Johnson, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Shaquille O’Neal, James Worthy, Jerry West, Jamaal Wilkes, and George Mikan. Kobe Bryant will be eligible in 2022.
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    1. New York Yankees

    Why? The greatest team in professional sports history.

    The Good. 27 World Series Championships (1923, 1927-28, 1932, 1936-39, 1941, 1943, 1947, 1949-53, 1956, 1958, 1961-62, 1977-78, 1996, 1998-2000, 2009). 40 American League Titles. (1921-22, 1926, 1942, 1955, 1957, 1960, 1963-64, 1976, 1981, 2001, 2003). The four most accomplished Yankee teams were the 1927 Murderer’s Row team that went 110-44, the 1939 Yankees that went 106-45, the 1961 M&M Boys team went 109-53, and the 1998 Yankees that won a combined 125-50 including the playoffs.

    The Bad, No pennants before Babe Ruth’s arrival. After making the World Series in 1964, the Yankees finished below .500 in 1965 (first time since 1925), then last place in 1966 (first time since 1912). Four consecutive losing seasons from 1989-1992 including a last place finish in 1990.

    The Ugly: Before Spring Training in 1973, Pitchers Fritz Peterson and Mike Kekich announced that they have swapped wives. Both pitchers had been on the starting rotation for a few years and the families knew each other and well…. Kekich was traded before the season eneded. Peterson who had won 20 games previous, began losing games, and was loudly booed on the road. He was traded to Cleveland the next season. To this day Peterson and Mrs. Kekich are still married but Kekich and Mrs. Peterson only lasted a few months.

    Andy Hawkins was one of those aging veterans the Yankees liked to sign in the 1980’s. Hawkins was an OK pitcher on a declining Yankees team, signing in 1989. On July 1, 1990 the Yankees were playing the White Sox at Comiskey Park. Hawkins dominated the White Sox through 7 2/3 innings of a scoreless game. Sammy Sosa reached base on a throwing error, two walks loaded the bases. A fly ball got lost in the wind and off a glove, causing the bases to clear. Another fly ball got lost in the sun, allowing another run. The Yankees lost 4-0, even though Andy Hawkins did not allow a hit. It is not an official no-hitter because Hawkins did not pitch a full nine innings. Oddly enough two weeks later, Hawkins was on the mound at Yankee Stadium against the same White Sox when opposing pitcher Melido Perez pitched a game without allowing a hite. The game was called after six innings due to rain, thus Perez’s no-hitter is not official either.

    The Yankees lost four consecutive games to Boston in October 2004.


    Where they play. Yankee Stadium, the second making of Yankee Stadium opened in 2009, replacing the original stadium that opened in 1923. Yankee Stadium went through a two-year renovation and reopened in 1976. The Yankees played at Shea Stadium for 1974 & 1975. Before Yankee Stadium was built, the Yankees played at Hilltop Park in Washington Heights. The team back then was known officially as the Highlanders but the media always referred to the team as the Yanks. When it closed, the Yankees moved into the Polo Grounds with the Giants. The Giants asked the Yankees to leave since they were becoming more popular. Hence, the building of Yankee Stadium.

    Owner: Yankee Global Enterprises, with Hal and Hank Steinbrenner as chairmen. Their father George Steinbrenner bought the Yankees from CBS in 1973 for $10 million. Currently they are worth $3.7 billion. Although Steinbrenner promised not to meddle, he was always in the news known as “The Boss” and always meddled as the Yankee frequently changed managers from 1973 to 1996. Billy Martin was hired and fired five times within that era. Steinbrenner also had a strict grooming and facial hair policy that continues to this day. Goose Gossage was growing a beard in 1983, Steinbrenner ordered it shaved, Gossage complied but kept the bushy facial mustache he still wears to do this day. Gossage was a free agent and vowed not to re-sign referring to Steinbrenner as “the fat man upstairs”. In 1991, Don Mattingly was the best player on a bad Yankee team, he grew a mullet, Steinbrenner ordered it shaved, Mattingly refused and was benched for a game. (For the record, I was at that game and wondered why Mattingly was not in the lineup.

    Steinbrenner was suspended twice from operating the team. In 1974, he was suspended for 15 months for making illegal contributions to Richard Nixon’s re-election campaign. In 1990, Commissioner Fay Vincent banned Steinbrenner from day to day operations for paying a gambler to dig dirt on outfielder Dave Winfield. Winfield signed a big free agent contract with the Yankees in 1981, his poor post-season play was mocked by Steinbrenner, referring to Winfield as “Mr. May” as opposed to Reggie Jackson’s “Mr. October”. When Winfield was elected to the Hall of Fame, he elected to be inducted as a San Diego Padre rather than a Yankee did to the aniosmity with Steinbrenner.
    Steinbrenner was fully reinstated in 1993, however he left more of the day to day operations to General Manager Gene Michael. Michael was given the chance to develop the Yankees farm system. In the past, they would often be traded for aging veterans. For example, George wanted Michael to trade pitcher Mariano Rivera to Detroit for 41-year old pitcher Frank Tanana. This was before Rivera was converted to a set-up man before becoming the full time reliever in 1997. Steinbrenner mostly retired from day to day operations in 2007 letting his sons handle the team.

    Manager: Aaron Boone, was hired this past offseason after Joe Girardi’s contract was not renewed. Boone is best known to Yankee fans is hitting a walk-off home run in Game 7 of the 2003 ALCS against Boston. In the offseason he tore his ACL playing basketball, thus voiding his contract, leading to Alex Rodriguez’s arrival in the Bronx.

    Top Current Players: Aaron Judge, Gary Sanchez, and Giancarlo Stanton

    Hall of Famers: Jack Chesboro, Yogi Berra, Earle Combs, Bill Dickey, Joe DiMaggio, Whitey Ford, Lou Gehrig, Lefty Gomez, Joe Gordon, Goose Gossage, Waite Hoyt, Miller Huggins, Catfish Hunter, Reggie Jackson, Tony Lazzeri, Mickey Mantle, Joe McCarthy, Phil Rizzuto, Red Ruffing, Babe Ruth, Casey Stengel, and Joe Torre. Mariano Rivera is a sure lock in 2019 and Derek Jeter is a sure lock in 2020.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommAvHusky View Post
    3. Boston Celtics
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommAvHusky View Post
    1. New York Yankees

    Why? The greatest team in American professional sports history.
    Fixed that for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    Fixed that for you.

    Only if you ignore the whole Franco thing...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimjamesak View Post
    Only if you ignore the whole Franco thing...
    If we're excluding teams based on awful associations that takes out every Southern squad and Boston, just to start.

    Put it in the Ugly paragraph.
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    Won't the Vegas Knights be the most successful sports franchise if they win the cup this season? Literally winning a title every year of their existance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JF_Gophers View Post
    Won't the Vegas Knights be the most successful sports franchise if they win the cup this season? Literally winning a title every year of their existance!
    SSS FTW.

    The Islanders were probably the most successful franchise in history in the summer of 1983. Even the summer of 1984. Then they, uh, rested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    SSS FTW.

    The Islanders were probably the most successful franchise in history in the summer of 1983. Even the summer of 1984. Then they, uh, rested.
    Rebuilding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mookie1995 View Post
    17>16
    The Celtics winning the '69 Finals over the Lakers should've settled that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CommAvHusky View Post
    1. New York Yankees
    Aka New York Highlanders, Baltimore Orioles
    Go Green! Go White! Go State!

    1966, 1986, 2007

    Go Tigers, Go Packers, Go Red Wings, Go Pistons

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post
    Aka New York Highlanders
    Any one of who could beat up the entire current Yankee roster. Look at those faces.



    We with parents over 90 wonder why they were always so taciturn and distant. It's because those were their parents!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    Any one of who could beat up the entire current Yankee roster. Look at those faces.



    We with parents over 90 wonder why they were always so taciturn and distant. It's because those were their parents!
    All kidding aside, someone once pointed out to me how people in early photographs never smiled. And he’s right. Heck, just look at your old, old family photos from the early 1900s. I bet nobody is smiling in them. All serious faces. It’s just the way they posed back then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartanforlife4 View Post
    Aka New York Highlanders, Baltimore Orioles
    This is true, most MLB played around with the nicknames during the dead ball era.

    The Yankees did start off as the Baltimore Orioles, New York was blocked from entering the American League thanks to John McGraw and the New York Giants. A deal was made before the 1903 to move the team to New York. As the Highlanders, they played at Hilltop Park which was the highest elevation in Manhattan. The media still referred to the team as the Yanks, because it was easier on the eyes than Highlanders. In 1913, the team moved to the Polo Grounds, hence the Highlander name was irrelevant and Yankees became official.
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    Re: 122 Franchises Ranked Bottom to Top:

    Quote Originally Posted by Kepler View Post
    Fixed that for you.

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