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Originally posted by TigerFan86-87 View Post- More likely to be top-20.
- More common opponents with non AHC teams battling for the top-15 rankings.
- Usually better SOS and opponents' SOS (depending whom you put on your OOC schedule, of course).
- Big-4 conferences have better (in some cases much better) overall OOC records.
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Originally posted by LtPowers View PostBut what is it that makes five OOC losses worth more than five conference losses?
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- Lose five conference games and when it comes time to compare in PWR against your conference-mates those are just a sub-sample of twenty-some games when doing PWR against conference-mates.
- Lose five non-conf games (say one against each conference, so you're 0-1 against that conference) when it comes common-opponents time in PWR you lost to a team from say the WCHA and any team in the WCHA that has a better record against that same team wins that PWR category against you.
Yes, not scientific, more of a thought exercise, but that's how it effectively plays out.The preceding post may contain trigger words and is not safe-space approved. <-- Virtue signaling.
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Think of the "opponent's opponents" segment of the RPI. If RIT loses to Air Force, Air Force is an "opponent's opponent" to every other conference team on our schedule. A loss to them actually helps RIT's "opponent's opponents" portion of the RPI because all of our other conference brethren also play Air Force who now has a slightly stronger record. If RIT plays just 1 team from another conference (additionally say that no one else from our conference plays that team) and loses, then the win for that team does not affect our "opponent's opponents" segment of the RPI at all because we don't play anyone else that played against that team.
Sorry if this isn't very clear. I'm having trouble getting the wording correct for clarity's sake here. Another way to look at it is that the overall conference record of all in-conference games is going to always be .500. The only way to improve the overall conference record (a big component of both opponent's record and opponent's opponents record) is for the teams in the conference to win non-conference games.
Originally posted by The SicatokaThink of it this way:
- Lose five conference games and when it comes time to compare in PWR against your conference-mates those are just a sub-sample of twenty-some games when doing PWR against conference-mates.
- Lose five non-conf games (say one against each conference, so you're 0-1 against that conference) when it comes common-opponents time in PWR you lost to a team from say the WCHA and any team in the WCHA that has a better record against that same team wins that PWR category against you.
Yes, not scientific, more of a thought exercise, but that's how it effectively plays out.
Look at the current pairwise: it literally tracks 1-61 in RPI rank. As (I think) Ed said earlier, RPI is by far the most important component of the pairwise. Get a top 10-15 RPI, and you will be in the discussion.Last edited by jflory81; 11-17-2017, 05:12 PM.
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Originally posted by blazer777 View PostHow gassed was the team in the third period?
I shut off the broadcast in the second but it seems they hung close
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Originally posted by blazer777 View PostHow gassed was the team in the third period?
I shut off the broadcast in the second but it seems they hung closeRIT
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Originally posted by RIT Winters View PostThey couldn't stay out of the box, which is S.O.P for this team as well as any visiting team to Colorado Springs. Air Force's PP kept them in the game and won it for them.
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Originally posted by jflory81 View PostMore accurately they couldn't kill the power plays they did face. 4 times shorthanded isn't an outrageous number by any means and is hardly "not being able to stay out of the box".
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Originally posted by Ed Trefzger View PostRIT is actually 55th out of 60 teams in penalty minutes. But they've only gotten 17 power plays in seven league games.RIT Tigers
Got one foot in the crease
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Originally posted by LtPowers View PostI'll take a split in Colorado Springs any year.
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Got one foot in the crease
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Originally posted by blazer777 View PostYep... And how many times have the Tiger's stunk it up in OCC games but ended up going deep into the playoffs and the tournament? The heck with PWR and the rest! 😁2006-07 Atlantic Hockey Champions!
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Originally posted by The Sicatoka View PostThink of it this way:
- Lose five conference games and when it comes time to compare in PWR against your conference-mates those are just a sub-sample of twenty-some games when doing PWR against conference-mates.
- Lose five non-conf games (say one against each conference, so you're 0-1 against that conference) when it comes common-opponents time in PWR you lost to a team from say the WCHA and any team in the WCHA that has a better record against that same team wins that PWR category against you.
Yes, not scientific, more of a thought exercise, but that's how it effectively plays out.2006-07 Atlantic Hockey Champions!
2008-09 Atlantic Hockey Co-Champions!
2009-10 Atlantic Hockey Champions!
2010 Frozen Four participant
2010-11 Atlantic Hockey Champions!
Member of the infamous Corner Crew
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Originally posted by komey1 View PostThe thing is also who you beat. The loss against RPI hurts some because they have a terrible record so far.
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