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    Re: Norwich 2017-18 Season Thread: Defending the Crown

    It's being reported that Cam Ellsworth of UMass-Lowell is the front runner (https://mobile.twitter.com/mikemcmah...02175489?s=21l I presume that means that he was one of the three finalists on campus last week.

    The reaction of the Lowell fan base to the news is highly encouraging (they're distraught). Looking at his bio, I can see why. He seems like he would be an awesome hire - coaching experience at one of the top DI programs and having coached multiple NHL players. Should help immensely in recruiting, I'd imagine.

    My only concern is that his entire career has been DI. That makes me think (with no evidence) that he would be more inclined to see Norwich as a stepping stone rather than a destination.

    If the rumors are true then hopefully they can close. Announcement this week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NU Pastime View Post
    It's being reported that Cam Ellsworth of UMass-Lowell is the front runner (https://mobile.twitter.com/mikemcmah...02175489?s=21l I presume that means that he was one of the three finalists on campus last week.

    The reaction of the Lowell fan base to the news is highly encouraging (they're distraught). Looking at his bio, I can see why. He seems like he would be an awesome hire - coaching experience at one of the top DI programs and having coached multiple NHL players. Should help immensely in recruiting, I'd imagine.

    My only concern is that his entire career has been DI. That makes me think (with no evidence) that he would be more inclined to see Norwich as a stepping stone rather than a destination.

    If the rumors are true then hopefully they can close. Announcement this week?
    The one thing about the "stepping stone worry" is that MM only had DI experience when he came to NU, and he stayed at NU for the duration. (Of course he had two prior stops as a head coach, and was at a different stage in his career, too.) I hope in some way or another the committee will consider a projected length of stay for whoever they hire. I'd hate to see another search in a few years because a coach got "too big" for Norwich. The interesting thing about that scenario is that most guys who move on from success at one school often get destroyed at their next stop. I'm thinking of football/basketball coaches who get hired to "Power Five" conference schools from I-AA or "mid major" schools and burn their bridges only to lose their job in a couple of years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NUProf View Post
    The one thing about the "stepping stone worry" is that MM only had DI experience when he came to NU, and he stayed at NU for the duration. (Of course he had two prior stops as a head coach, and was at a different stage in his career, too.) I hope in some way or another the committee will consider a projected length of stay for whoever they hire. I'd hate to see another search in a few years because a coach got "too big" for Norwich. The interesting thing about that scenario is that most guys who move on from success at one school often get destroyed at their next stop. I'm thinking of football/basketball coaches who get hired to "Power Five" conference schools from I-AA or "mid major" schools and burn their bridges only to lose their job in a couple of years.
    Its so much closer in hockey...Ive had some conversations with some big time hockey people recently. They unanimously said that Norwich is one of the best jobs in college hockey, at any level.

    The leap in other sports from D3 to D1 is huge, in hockey it just isnt. Its so much smaller.

    Based on what Im hearing, if Ellsworth is the guy, he wants Norwich and he wants it for the foreseeable future.

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    To look at this from another perspective, if he does indeed jump ship in a few years it'd mean that he had some considerable success at NU. That's be a good thing.

    But we all definitely want our cake and to eat it too (a saying I've never understood, but I digress). That means following the example of McShane - success and commitment.

    Krb, based off of what you're hearing, what reasons is Ellsworth giving for wanting the NU job?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NU Pastime View Post
    To look at this from another perspective, if he does indeed jump ship in a few years it'd mean that he had some considerable success at NU. That's be a good thing.

    But we all definitely want our cake and to eat it too (a saying I've never understood, but I digress). That means following the example of McShane - success and commitment.

    Krb, based off of what you're hearing, what reasons is Ellsworth giving for wanting the NU job?
    An opportunity to run a high level program, a chance to compete for championships every year, limited travel compared to D1 (he has a family), etc. In my eyes, all the right reasons.

    Mike McShane was a rock star when he arrived, but he became a legend here. You dont have to be a D1 guy to reach those heights within the profession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrbFlint View Post
    An opportunity to run a high level program, a chance to compete for championships every year, limited travel compared to D1 (he has a family), etc. In my eyes, all the right reasons.

    Mike McShane was a rock star when he arrived, but he became a legend here. You dont have to be a D1 guy to reach those heights within the profession.
    I like it. Let's get this done.

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    Re: Norwich 2017-18 Season Thread: Defending the Crown

    IT'S OFFICIAL!!
    According to College Hockey News.com .......they have a story confirming the above new Norwich Hockey Coach as just discussed. I found it on in the Div I hockey forum under the Lowell thread. Of course with all the "fake News" out there.............who knows what is true when we read the news??
    Especially when you are an old geezer.


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    Wow Norwich congrats on what seems like a GREAT hire!!! UVM people were talking about him as a replacement for Sneddon who is hopefully in his last year! You guys have the best program in the state BAR NONE it's not close to get someone of this caliber! Congrats again and belated congrats to the legend McShane himself on a great career!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NU56 View Post
    IT'S OFFICIAL!!
    According to College Hockey News.com .......they have a story confirming the above new Norwich Hockey Coach as just discussed. I found it on in the Div I hockey forum under the Lowell thread. Of course with all the "fake News" out there.............who knows what is true when we read the news??
    Especially when you are an old geezer.
    Here it is!

    https://www.collegehockeynews.com/ne...ciate-Head.php

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    Good hire.

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    I'm absolutely thrilled!

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    I'm absolutely thrilled!
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    Re: Norwich 2017-18 Season Thread: Defending the Crown

    Lost in all the McShane/Cam Ellsworth hoopla...

    Kyle Thomas has signed a one-year deal with the Utica Comets of the AHL! Welcome back to the East Coast KT!

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    Would it be possible to stream the NU news conference today?
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    Re: Norwich 2017-18 Season Thread: Defending the Crown

    Quote Originally Posted by NU56 View Post
    IT'S OFFICIAL!!
    According to College Hockey News.com .......they have a story confirming the above new Norwich Hockey Coach as just discussed. I found it on in the Div I hockey forum under the Lowell thread. Of course with all the "fake News" out there.............who knows what is true when we read the news??
    Especially when you are an old geezer.
    When you say "fake news" and enclose the term in quotation marks I'm going to assume that you are poking a little fun at the most egregious user of that term. That guy uses the term to reference the legitimate press, AKA the mainstream media or the journalists who produce usually truthful news at professional news organizations.

    But I digress. College Hockey News.com had it right. Welcome to Norwich, Coach! We hope you'll love it in central Vermont and will continue your already-successful career at Norwich for many years to come. You have some WICKED big skates to fill.
    Go Wick!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norwich Third Bencher View Post
    When you say "fake news" and enclose the term in quotation marks I'm going to assume that you are poking a little fun at the most egregious user of that term. That guy uses the term to reference the legitimate press, AKA the mainstream media or the journalists who produce usually truthful news at professional news organizations.

    But I digress. College Hockey News.com had it right. Welcome to Norwich, Coach! We hope you'll love it in central Vermont and will continue your already-successful career at Norwich for many years to come. You have some WICKED big skates to fill.
    Just having a little fun. Having a little fun gets be more difficult in your 80's. I agree, it will be a difficult act to follow. Expectations will be high. Glad to not see all gloom and doom on this site with the change.


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