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  • Re: Days Since Last Shooting II

    Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    I provided numbers and links just a couple posts before yours in this thread.
    Comparing firearms and automobiles is reasonable due to their common proliferation in the US (each nominally 1 per person).

    The numbers say, per 100k, one is more likely to be killed in an automobile incident than by firearm homicide.
    Yet, we, as a society, have agreed to at least attempt to improve the safety and reduce the number of car related deaths.

    When are we going to actually start doing the same for firearms?

    Especially when cars deaths are generally accidents, dun deaths are generally intentional.

    Cars require a licence. Guns do not.

    Cars are there to move you from A to B. Guns are just there to shoot stuff or kill living animals.

    And then look at the distribution of who owns firearms vs. cars.

    They are not equal in any sense of the imagination.

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    • Re: Days Since Last Shooting II

      Originally posted by alfablue View Post
      Yet, we, as a society, have agreed to at least attempt to improve the safety and reduce the number of car related deaths.

      When are we going to actually start doing the same for firearms?

      Especially when cars deaths are generally accidents, dun deaths are generally intentional.

      Cars require a licence. Guns do not.

      Cars are there to move you from A to B. Guns are just there to shoot stuff or kill living animals.

      And then look at the distribution of who owns firearms vs. cars.

      They are not equal in any sense of the imagination.
      No. Cars are there to kill too. See New York. They're both killing machines.
      **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

      Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
      Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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      • Re: Days Since Last Shooting II

        Both are machines of man.
        Both add risks to daily life.

        I bring up autos because they can be used for both good and not.
        I bring up autos because they are almost as prolific as firearms in America.
        I bring up autos on a comparative basis; you need a frame of reference with similar proliferation in the population.
        The preceding post may contain trigger words and is not safe-space approved. <-- Virtue signaling.

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        • Re: Days Since Last Shooting II

          Originally posted by alfablue View Post
          And then look at the distribution of who owns firearms vs. cars.
          I'm sorry, but what are you implying there?
          The preceding post may contain trigger words and is not safe-space approved. <-- Virtue signaling.

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          • Re: Days Since Last Shooting II

            Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
            Both are machines of man.
            Both add risks to daily life.

            I bring up autos because they can be used for both good and not.
            I bring up autos because they are almost as prolific as firearms in America.
            I bring up autos on a comparative basis; you need a frame of reference with similar proliferation in the population.
            LOL

            Then make the laws the same. Otherwise, just stop.
            **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

            Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
            Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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            • Re: Days Since Last Shooting II

              Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
              Both are machines of man.
              Both add risks to daily life.

              I bring up autos because they can be used for both good and not.
              I bring up autos because they are almost as prolific as firearms in America.
              I bring up autos on a comparative basis; you need a frame of reference with similar proliferation in the population.
              Try riding your gun to work tomorrow, then let us know how that works for you.

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              • Re: Days Since Last Shooting II

                Originally posted by FlagDUDE08 View Post
                What proof do you have that it's incorrect, other than some media interpretation of plastics and prescriptions turning more than half of amphibians sterile and/or asexual?
                PROVE the government isn't turning the frogs gay! Or that Alex Jones' magic herpadurp dust DOESN'T make you 1000% times smarter and attractive to women! Prove it!

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                  Originally posted by DisplacedCornellian View Post
                  PROVE the government isn't turning the frogs gay! Or that Alex Jones' magic herpadurp dust DOESN'T make you 1000% times smarter and attractive to women! Prove it!
                  When did he say anything about turning frogs gay? The harmful products turn a majority of amphibians sterile and/or asexual. Infowars gives PLENTY of proof on that. But no, if Stephen Colbert says it, it must be true.

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                  • Re: Days Since Last Shooting II

                    Originally posted by dave122793 View Post
                    Try riding your gun to work tomorrow, then let us know how that works for you.
                    If it worked for Wile E. Coyote...

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                    • Re: Days Since Last Shooting II

                      Originally posted by ScoobyDoo View Post
                      Then make the laws the same. Otherwise, just stop.
                      Let's add a Constitutional amendment for the right to own an automobile,
                      or,
                      Let's remove the Constitutional amendment to keep and bear arms.
                      The preceding post may contain trigger words and is not safe-space approved. <-- Virtue signaling.

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                      • Re: Days Since Last Shooting II

                        Originally posted by dave122793 View Post
                        Try riding your gun to work tomorrow, then let us know how that works for you.
                        Looking at using alternative uses for the machines, using an automobile for intentional killing is much easier than what you ask.
                        The preceding post may contain trigger words and is not safe-space approved. <-- Virtue signaling.

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                        • Re: Days Since Last Shooting II

                          Originally posted by Brenthoven View Post
                          ...because it's either unrealistic or it goes against the 2nd Amendment.
                          The 2nd Amendment?

                          A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed

                          The purpose is to have a recourse for people against the US government - not other people. And as a citizen, you are not fighting against the government on a daily basis. You can be fully prepared to defend yourself against the government by keeping guns in your home only. If you decide to take up arms against the US government (per the second amendment), you will be breaking federal law likely anyways...and so will be able to take your gun out of the house to fight them.

                          Per law, the net result is that there should be no legal carrying of guns on public streets that put people in danger. And anyone (those open to committing criminal acts included) should be prosecuted for doing so. Not that we should stop street carrying of guns...but the second amendment doesn't protect it.
                          Go Gophers!

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                          • Until someone can show me an instance where someone intentionally used a vehicle to successfully kill 50 and injure 500 they can **** off with that petarded comparison.

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                            • Re: Days Since Last Shooting II

                              Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
                              Let's add a Constitutional amendment for the right to own an automobile,
                              or,
                              Let's remove the Constitutional amendment to keep and bear arms.
                              The Heller decision allows us to pass laws regulating guns the same as we regulate cars. So, just stop.

                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distri...mbia_v._Heller

                              It's all in there. And Scalia wrote it.
                              **NOTE: The misleading post above was brought to you by Reynold's Wrap and American Steeples, makers of Crosses.

                              Originally Posted by dropthatpuck-Scooby's a lost cause.
                              Originally Posted by First Time, Long Time-Always knew you were nothing but a troll.

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                              • Re: Days Since Last Shooting II

                                Originally posted by 5mn_Major View Post
                                The 2nd Amendment?

                                A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed

                                The purpose is to have a recourse for people against the US government - not other people. And as a citizen, you are not fighting against the government on a daily basis. You can be fully prepared to defend yourself against the government by keeping guns in your home only. If you decide to take up arms against the US government (per the second amendment), you will be breaking federal law likely anyways...and so will be able to take your gun out of the house to fight them.

                                Per law, the net result is that there should be no legal carrying of guns on public streets that put people in danger. And anyone (those open to committing criminal acts included) should be prosecuted for doing so. Not that we should stop street carrying of guns...but the second amendment doesn't protect it.
                                IINM the general consensus is that the Founders' intention was to keep a source of trained men ready to serve, as there was no standing army.

                                Once we created a standing army it became moot and should have been modified or repealed. The new life breathed into it by the NRA as a political marketing tool is perverse and utterly foreign to the original intent.

                                At some point people will have had enough of the murders and we'll repeal the Second, and the Usual Suspects will launch their war just like the last one they had to protect their ownership of slaves, and they'll lose because they're still unproductive, uneducated, and inept, and then we'll have two hundred more years of their whining, impotent butthurt until their next tantrum.

                                Or we can finally expel them from the Union and get on with facing the real challenges of a modern state and stop having to babysit these infants.
                                Last edited by Kepler; 11-06-2017, 10:21 AM.
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